Keep Christ in Christmas bumper sticker for sale at my school...

[callous taoboy]

It is on the grease board in our workroom. The gym teacher is selling them for a dollar. On the 22nd I plan to write, "Have a Sweet Winter Solstice" next to it. I really find this little tirade the fundies are on amusing as hell.

Keep the Crisp in Rice-Crispy
Callous

[ProdigalJunkMail]

1. well...I don't know the teacher

but everyone seems to be up in arms about the commercialization of Christmas...maybe this is the teacher's way of protesting against the complete lack of Christ in most Christmas celebrations?

sP

[unpossibles]

10. about the only thing Christ has to do with Christmas is the name

which is a fine thing to celebrate, but literally everything else was co-opted from pagan holidays from the date to the tree and all the trimmings to the gifts.

[Jack from Charlotte]

19. Why don't you sell bumber stickers that say..........

"Keep Christ in Xmas" Sell then for 50 cents.

[unpossibles]

47. that may be the funniest idea I've seen in a while!

love it.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

45. i get that

I have a decorated pagan symbol or two in my home for the holiday. Most of the celebrations in the Christian holiday calendar are co-opted. I know Jesus wasn't born in Dec. I know that the Easter Bunny has it's roots in fertility rites. But...just because we don't have the exact date to celebrate on doesn't mean that the day we DO choose to celebrate on can't be actually about Him and not the crass commercialization.

sP

[ContraBass Black]

2. Merry Xmas.

:evilgrin:

[Maddy McCall]

3. I hope you don't work in a public school.

You could say something to the principal about this, if it is a public school.

[maddezmom]

4. I don't have a problem with this bumper sticker

I'm not a fundie and I agree with the sentiments. :)

[AndyTiedye]

13. Keep the Saturn in Saturnalia!

[Lex]

14. That would be more accurate anyway, wouldn't it?

nt

[Midlodemocrat]

17. I don't either, unless it's a public school.

Or unless the teacher is doing it relatively quietly, a la just to fellow co-workers. I would think most adults would be able to politely refuse if they weren't interested.

:hi: How ya' doin?

[maddezmom]

41. I guess I just hate the commercialization of Christmas

and your correct, it should not be on sale at a public school. :hi:

Besides drowning in rain lately, we're doing fine. :hug:

[twilight_sailing]

5. Keep the X in X-mas

with a picture of a stern looking Malcolm. ;)

[Hobarticus]

8. BWAH-HAHAHA!!! If you make 'em, I'll buy 'em! eom

[Jack from Charlotte]

20. LOL!. Sign me up for one. nfm

*

[callous taoboy]

25. Keep the whiz in cheese whiz... why not?

[LiberalEsto]

6. Keep the Sol in Solstice

Sol being a sun deity

[AZBlue]

7. They are selling it, not giving it out to each student & telling them to put it on the family car.

Big difference.

Girl Scouts sell cookies. On a diet? Don't buy them. Same thing.

[zreosumgame]

28. not during school I don't think...

[AZBlue]

48. Actually schools are one of their biggest customers.

Go in any teacher's lounge during cookie sales and you'll see signs, sign up sheets and cookies for sale.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. .. and Christmas in church. Or did they forget that part?

[nosmokes]

11. is this a public school?

because if it is this is wrong, wrong, wrong!

[spoony]

18. why why why?

It's an individual selling them to faculty, nothing is being pushed on anyone, much less students.

[annabanana]

21. The OP says nothing of the sort..

It's OK if it has nothing to do with the school itself (if, indeed, public) and the funds collected are not for the school, or it's athletic dept. etc

It is however in questionable taste for the teacher to be selling them ~in school~, rather than out of her car in the parking lot.

[spoony]

22. Taste is not law

The OP: "It is on the grease board in our workroom. The gym teacher is selling them for a dollar."

Sounds pretty clear to me.

[annabanana]

What is a "grease board"?

Is that a "work out" room?

[callous taoboy]

24. grease board. you write on it with dry erase markers. wipes right off.

[GreenZoneLT]

39. aka white board n/t

nm

[Warren DeMontague]

29. How about "PEACE ON EARTH.. they're more than JUST WORDS". nt

[nosmokes]

26. because she's advocating a religion in a publicly funded workplace.

what if she has an ass't or gets a student teacher? don't you think they're gonna feel some pressure to shell out a sheckel or two for a sticker? if she wants to stand out on the sidewalk at the mall and sell them fine, but it shouldn't be something a public employee should hafta deal with in a common area.

[spoony]

32. So you're even opposed to adults

having voluntary expressions of religion in any public sector workplace? There is nothing mandatory or even obtrusive about this. It isn't a hundred foot nativity scene at city hall. Pick your battles.

[callous taoboy]

43. Look, I see it as being pushy

about your views to display controversial signs, bumper stickers whatever in the WORKPLACE. I work here. I don't come to be told how to think or what to think. If they want to turn this grease board into a free speech zone, fine. I have plenty to say that would piss off a lot of the people I work with, but it would be totally inappropriate for me to do so.

Besides, whatever happened to going into the closet to pray quietly?

[callous taoboy]

23. I'm wondering about how wrong it is....

This is a public elementary school in the deep south. I have complained to the superintendent once this year about the principal proselytizing to me one day in the hall, and about how she ended the last staff meeting this summer with a long spiel about how God listens, our prayers will be answered etc. It went on and on and she was using this weird channeling / evangelical voice that made me literally start scooting on my butt toward the nearest exit. I was surprised to find out from a person affiliated with "Americans for Separation of Church and State" that the principal in both cases was pushing the envelope a little but was not breaching any laws. She'd have to be holding prayer meetings at school or asking us to pray before staff meetings before laws were broken. The superintendent agreed that she was out of line and that he'd take care of it.

I think putting this bumper sticker on the board at school is wrong in that, well, I'm damned sick of these people assuming that we're all on board with this silly business of Christ and Christmas. Christ, in my experience, has never been about Christmas; not for me or anyone in my family or any one of the friends I've had over the years. Except for the time my dotty step-mom made us all trundle off to an x-mas eve church meeting, x-mas has never involved religion and has always been about gimme gimme gimme and the yearly requisite viewing of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." And no, I don't want to hear about how I was robbed for not having been brought up with a more reverent regard for the Solstice.

What I say is this: Festivus...... For the rest of us.

[spoony]

31. what about the "silly business" of respecting those who

do celebrate it? Does DU turn into a pile of bitter pricks every December or is it just this one?

[nosmokes]

35. she's not wishing anyone a happy christmas

she's pushing a specific brand of religion for a $1 a throw.

[callous taoboy]

42. Pile of bitter pricks...

Now there's a pile of respect for you.

[tanyev]

12. Make your own: Jesus is the Reason for the Shopping?

[TlalocW]

15. Keep the Huitzilopochtli in Huitzilopochtli-Mas...

Or whatever the day was called when ancient Aztecs celebrated the sun god.

TlalocW

[Bridget Burke]

44. Give me that Old Time Religion!

Yes, it's a Lego Huitzilopochtli! Much more here: www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Dunechaser

[maxrandb]

16. Send this bumper sticker to the school to sell

"You're not a Christian if you haven't read past the Book of Leviticus"

[ComerPerro]

27. and remind them all to don their gay apparel

[demo_not_full]

30. Not a big deal ...

I agree. Most of Christianity is exploited for profit, even in churches. Of course all that really matters is what regular people think about it. The world has changed alot and still is. Christianity is no more credible to me than other religions and I was raised in a Christian family! Besides Jesus wasn't born on Christmas and his last name isn't Christ. Btw, I'm not intending to start a war here, I'm a Democrat for God's sake!!

[tsuki]

33. No, write "Keep Christ in Christian." n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

34. Keep "MITHRAS" in Xmas....

..Oh, wait, my bad..Keep "DIONYSUS" in Xmas...VISHNU

You can take the "christ" out of pagan, but you cant take the pagan out of the christ.

[stopbush]

36. How about: "Respect History. Keep The X in Xmas!"

Why not inform your asshole gym teacher that the "X" in Xmas goes back to the days of the early Greek church. X was the sign for Christ and was scribbled on walls as a shorthand.
The Greeks also liked the fact that you could turn the X on its side to symbolize the cross.

Too bad your asshole gym teacher would ignore history and complain about the use of the X. Too bad also that he has no respect for the language that the NT was written in,
demanding that references to Christ be written in modern day American, rather than the original Greek.

Why does your asshole gym teacher hate Xmas & Jesus?

[GreenZoneLT]

40. X is the first letter in "Christ"

It's the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter in Christos.

Considering that Paul wrote in Greek and Jesus spoke Aramaic, I think that spelling Christ's name with the Roman alphabet is blasphemous. Stone them!

[cynatnite]

37. They can sell that at school?

Is the money for the teacher's own pockets? The teacher's church?

[GreenZoneLT]

38. Unhistorical bozos

The dang Christians tried to kill off Christmas in this country. The Catholic and English churches tolerated it as a folk holiday, and grafted all the Baby Jesus myths onto it, but the Puritans saw right through that.

The Christmas (Santa, presents, all that) we celebrate now was invented by Washington Irving and the New York Knickerbocker club in the 1820s. Christ has very little to do with Christmas, never has. I wish they'd stick with their dismal ritual sacrifice at Easter (another good pagan festival they've spoiled), and leave Christmas alone.

[Norquist Nemesis]

46. Just out of curiosity, what is the $1 going to?

Is it a fundraiser for something, or just her way of supplementing her Christmas Club account?

I agree with what someone else said...Put up 'Peace on Earth' or even "Let There Be Peace On Earth" stickers and sell them for the same price. Pick a charitable organization and put a note next to the stickers "Proceeds to from sales to be donated to _________ "