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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:47 PM
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Why are the same people, who made the wrong decisions on Iraq
still being listened to and considered experts?....

Usually when one is proven to be horribly wrong, he is ignored, ostracized, ridiculed and put to pasture. Yet the media and the government still display these losers as being credible. WTF???

If it was up to me, they'd all be on death row.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:48 PM
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1. Don't look behind that curtain!
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 07:00 PM by TahitiNut
Look. The whole mindset behind both 'disciplining' Saddam Hussein and (once he showed he wouldn't be a good global corporatist stooge) getting rid of him and placing a neo-colonial puppet regime in his place, under a "Constitution" that enshrined the Holy Entitlements of GLobalism ... is the privateering mindset.

The assets and resources of Iraq MUST (according to the privateers) be something that can be BOUGHT ... and removed from the 'ownership' of the nation and its people. Saddam was moving out from under the thumb of the globalists who sponsored his authoritarian regime in the first place. He was a (horror of horrors!) populist autocrat! The living standards for average people in Iraq were BETTER than those in Saudi Arabia! (God forbid!) Oil revenues were actually used for more than Saddam's palaces. Saddam wanted to denominate Iraq's oil sales by the Euro, not the dollar and he was on course to fully nationalize the fields.

The Fabulous Baker Boys completely and totally presume that 'title' to Iraq's assets and resources must be owned by whomever pays for them and that entitlement is enforced by the police and military of Iraq - that's what an entitlement is all about. They countenance NO NATIONALIZATION of Iraq's national resources. None.


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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:52 PM
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2. No shame because there is no
conscience. And that goes for the corporate media too. Why would they give air time to the swiftboatliars during the '04 campaign if they were sincere about the news being actually truth? Fair and balanced means the truth has to compete with lies.

Death row is too good for them, they need to live on a Social Security check and not be able to pay the rent while eating cat food and not being able to afford the meds to keep them alive.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:52 PM
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3. I constantly marvel at this too ...

not just wrong decisions ... but in some cases criminally indicted and disgraced like Delay. I was dumbfounded that they had him doing the circuit to discuss the election results!! Like ... wtf cares what this thug thinks??



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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:56 PM
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4. wrong for a lifetime
Those same people were wrong about vietnam and all the other ugly bombing
stupid interventions, we've forgiven them for all the others, iraq is
just another fuckup in a long career.

Heck, DU has got that same lot of people, people who supported iraq and
now feel that because they were wrong then, that now that they've changed,
that they are smarties who's contribution is worthwhile...

Watch out, partisan politics is hearding sheeple, and the establishment
wants their wars with a new democratic buy-in, as if the november poll was
the dems shouting to be part of the iraq war... so the stupidity can be
bipartisan and nobody does not have blood on their hands.

Now that we're all accomplices to war crimes and mass murder, we got nothing
to lose by doing more.
(January 1, 1960)
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:01 PM
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6. I agree. In terms of wars in the last 100 years
the Dems and Rethugs are equally guilty.

From the massacres in the Phillipines, to Haiti, Cuba, and ALL of Latin America straight thru Vietnam... The American elite has a hell of alot of blood on their hands. They've been successful though, that history is pretty much still unknown.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:01 PM
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5. Same reason the corrupt are constantly placed back in office


Because the lies and the crimes and the corruption are never fully exposed in stark undeniable terms and the guilty are never truly held accountable (Maybe?)

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:09 PM
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7. Amazing, isn't it.
I guess if you're a member of the club, you get to be wrong as often as you want provided that most members of the club had the same opinion as you.

Of course if you are not a member of the club and happen to be right, it doesn't really matter.

Does Howard Dean, for example, get any respect for his foreign policy views from the foreign policy establishment? I think not.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:11 PM
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8. Tom Friedman is the one who slays me
He's still on the talking head shows pontificating about how awful it all is, when the last column he wrote before the invasion was entitled: "Just Give War a Chance" wherein he excoriated 'peaceniks', 'cowards' and Quakers for being against this glorious war adventure
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:24 PM
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10. Yes, I remember that... I absolutely despise him
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 07:14 PM
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9. they are the only people willing to still stand on that side of the line..
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