Karl Rove to Dubya: "Suck the Democrats into the War, Make it Theirs, Too"

[David Zephyr]

Are the Democrats being lured like the spider to the fly? I say it's so.

From President Bush's radio address today:

"Now it is the responsibility of all of us in Washington, Republicans and Democrats alike, to come together and find greater consensus on the best way forward," Bush said in his weekly radio address."

The Democrats are being sucked into taking "responsibility" for the catastrophe in Iraq.

Rove is licking his chops because when the civil war gets to genocidal proportions, the Democrat would have been part of the "solution" after all.

Democrats had really be wary of being sucked into this.

The spider sure is being sweet now to the fly.

[Bill McBlueState]

1. it's a great strategy on Rove's part

And the number-one, obvious solution for the Democrats is to bring the troops home now. The more they equivocate, the more ambiguous they are about their opposition to the war, the more easily Rove's charge will stick.

[davidwparker]

14. Indeed. Watch the Dem leadership fall for it.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Rove will be licking his wounds when the dems are done with him.

This war will always be Bush's war, no way around that.

[zulchzulu]

3. Chimpy ignoring the Baker Boys makes this a moot point

All the Democrats have to do now is say that a bipartisan commission gave Chimpy recommendations and he willfully ignored them. Add that Chimpy doesn't listen to anyone, including his father (who is much more well-liked in polls).

The Chimpy boat is sinking and Rove is going down with it.

[Solly Mack]

4. Back when the talking point was you're unpatriotic

if you vote against the IWR and the Patriot Act and everything else the little tyrant wanted was when people were sucked in..

The next President that inherits Iraq will be blamed for it if nothing changes and America does not withdraw...and a Democratic controlled Congress will also be blamed for what doesn't happen in the next 2 years. Fair or not...it will happen if we are still in Iraq. People are funny...they voted for change and they want it NOW. They don't get it now, they will stay angry and that anger will be directed at the party in control.

If Bush can get the American people to buy some "way forward" bullshit for another 2 years...or any other group of people using the "way forward" line...can convince the people to just hang on a little longer...the next President pays for the continued occupation of Iraq...as will the Congress.

If , on the other hand, Bush can be forced to withdraw prior to the presidential elections in 2008, then Bush and the GOP wear it all...and the Democrats come off as the party that got it done.

[David Zephyr]

6. Yes!

That's how I see it, Solly Mack.

[Not Me]

5. As much as I hate Bush, I have held off on impeachment talk

primarily because it would take almost until the end of his lame duck term anyway, and we have too much to do.

That said, I think the new congress ought to approach the Executive office with a perspective of a corporate Board of Directors who is dealing with a CEO that isn't cutting it. Meet with him, tell him what he has to do and give him 30 days to get moving on it or he is out. The ISG document (and the fact that 2/3 of Americans agree with it)give them the authority to pull it off.

[David Zephyr]

7. Not a bad approach.

I wish that your concept could be spread to members of the House and Senate. It rings right with me.

[w4rma]

12. Sounds like a great plan to me. (nt)

[muntrv]

8. Fuck you Karl. This is Bush's war and Bush's only.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. Brilliant!

Lets play games with people's lives so that we can shift the blame from us to them!

When does this crap become enough of a crime to warrant serious criminal investigations?

Greater consensus? But I thought Dumbass was the Decider, not the Consenter?

[H2O Man]

10. Great point.

You are hitting the nail on the head here. This is one of the most important posts on DU since the November election. As you have obviously noticed, the media keeps hammering away on the "now that the democrats won, they share responsibility for the war" crap. Even the president attempted to shift the focus on the Baker report, by saying how he hopes Congress pays attention to it.

The democrats in Congress will need to make sure to keep the ball in the executive's court. He is, after all, the "war president." And while members of the ISG have said that Congress has failed in their responsibilities to provide oversight, that is distinct from setting policy.

More, the grass roots needs to be vocal in focusing blame on Bush & Cheney.

[David Zephyr]

17. Thanks.

Democrats should be pushing to bring the troops home sooner, not later.

The troops are counting on it.

[Democrats_win]

11. Two years from today, Democrats will be preparing to end Bush's folly.

[paulk]

13. kinda reminds me of the IWR

don't you think?

[David Zephyr]

16. It does indeed.

And I hadn't thought of that comparison, but now that you bring it up, it does.

And how many Democrats will swallow one more time?

[ComerPerro]

15. like others have said, its not about people dying, its about Bush's ego