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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:00 PM Original message |
Am I to discount everything TruthOut has ever written because of one incident? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. That sounds right, to me. |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. I agree with that.... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. They put their trust in an unreliable source. I call it the Chalabi mechanism |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. But the real question would be, did the KNOWINGLY put that |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I think they were lusting after an exclusive a bit too much |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. True, they may have gotten a bit ahead of themselves. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
77. revealing the sources, if this doesn't come thru... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. When that happens you out your source |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I still read TruthOut, but I agree, OUT THE SOURCE n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Some people have a tendency to simplify thus... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Hmmm, bad/good. Black/white. Good/evil. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. most people have tendency to do this, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. The converse is also true, though. Our friend Jack Murtha is the poster boy for that truth. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Well---because they, (the editors) actually spoke with Leopold's source. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. If that is true, they should out the lying source. Something stinks, there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
94. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Oh please. Watch the tape. He turned down the bribe NOW, he didn't |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. did he EVER take that bribe? seems the door was closed |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #97 |
133. Go ahead and ignore what I said, skip the context too--it's your speciality, I see NT |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would think that there were people out to discredit every progressive... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I'm not afraid of looking silly in tin foil. Not the first time effective organizations |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. IMO this was a set-up like Dan Rather. The |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
90. Smart news outfits |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
158. Did I excuse anybody? You miss the importance of this entirely |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. TruthOut had no incident in my eyes. |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. I respect and read TruthOut |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. I don't mind very much that they were wrong... |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. what you said... |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Dan Rather. Judith Miller and the NYT. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. wonder how many anti-TOers still read the NYTs |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I don't. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. The NYT publishes corrections and outs their sources when they're wrong. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Oh really--- Have they done that for White Water and Judith Miller? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. They've apologized for their Iraq war coverage n/t |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. LOL--- |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
111. Apologized for Iraq war coverage two years after the war began |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
124. NYT also didn't post arrogant messages on DU.... |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 03:51 AM Response to Reply #124 |
145. Point out one instance |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 07:51 AM Response to Reply #145 |
151. I never said you did. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. And anyone who believed was called |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #124 |
153. So, what's one more arrogant post on this board? |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 07:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
152. I hope that the apology appeased |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
107. Outs their sources? |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. I don't trust any of those three - nor do I trust Truthout. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. I think the way they handled is is cause to distrust them, more than the original error. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. They lie to save themselves |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. Everybody makes a mistake now and then. Nobody should think of it as a big deal. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
22. there are those too... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. "24 business hours" - Liars. I won't read them. Y'all can do what you want. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
25. It seems that Truth Out always tries to get it right. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. No professional news source published the Rove indictment story |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. An excellent assessment, demobabe! Thanks. (eom) |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. NYT, WaPo, ABCNNBCBS all said Iraq had WMDs. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. No, because they attributed their sources. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Great. The videos show the government LIED. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. And the thing is, we know who the MSM's lying gov't sources were. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Good. When will Corporate McPravda tell us they're investigating those lies? |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Good people need good editors. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I learned that in Journalism School. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Yes, you should edit your work |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Well, you can certainly do that |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Sorry to read 700 applauding lawyers looked stupid. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Reality is all we have my friend... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
93. To be accurate, they quoted BushCo asswipes who averred that |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
68. Thanks demobabe! nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. Getting the story wrong AND insulting people for not believing said story? |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Like I said--the PR in defending themselves was a little to be desired..BUT |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
36. Leopold made the story up, hoping it would turn out to be true |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. You do know the editors said that they spoke with Leopold's source, |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yes, I made that whole thing up. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. You said "Leopold made the story up" |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Two things: |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #63 |
141. Don't forget that Leopold had a book to sell... |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Did YOU speak to Leopold's source? |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. It should alert you to their bias and lack of professionalism. n/t |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Then alert me... |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. The proof is they published an unsubstantiated rumor |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
87. TO said they had sources, but to this point, we have no proof of that. |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Sure, they could have sources |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
103. Challenge for Demobabe |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
140. Did you ever go to college? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 03:56 AM Response to Reply #140 |
147. Deleted message |
tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. Is "Sealed vs Sealed" still sealed? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
100. Apparently sealed in cement |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
104. Good question. 06cr00128 US District Court for DC. Filed May 16 or 17. |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. it's still sealed. Six months later. Check for yourself |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #108 |
172. and IIRC its filing conformed to a 24 *business-hours* timeframe. n/t |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
43. Kill and eat our friends to stay fit |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I really think Leopold could get his career back |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. If it's the only source for a particular story - then yes. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
58. If you were |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. My pro- and con- list for TruthOut is 1000 pro, 0 con! |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I really think Rove has had bigger fish to fry |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
67. Truthout |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Shuster never claimed for fact Rove had been indicted |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. No shit. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Then the situations aren't comparable n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Not for those |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
122. But rather for those |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Tell me, Kelly Rupert |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. You're entitled to your opinions, of course, |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I have no need |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
159. My question again demobabe: Are you a government lawyer? And |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Additionally, Shuster never said he'd out his sources if wrong |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Shuster also did not make a point of insisting he was right |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Waterman always takes a fair and measured approach toward controversy |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
129. Don't Forget |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. It may be |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Question |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. The judge |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #130 |
157. Were you working with Leopold at the time of this "incident". |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
163. Now aint' this rich....H20man |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
74. Very thoughtful look at TO and the Plame controversy |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Second chance, sure... but third, fourth, or more chances? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. This is precisely the attitude that makes me lose hope |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I like to think that people on the left |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I'm not talking about integrity |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I hold no personal vendetta against Truthout. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Sounds personal to me |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. I think people would |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
138. So you cannot forgive people who do not say "I'm sorry"? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. I don't understand |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #139 |
143. TO = Enron, so I cannot forgive? False choice argument. no? |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 03:55 AM Response to Reply #139 |
146. where are these insults you speak about |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #146 |
155. 24 hours = 24 business hours |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
101. self-delete |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. No, they're not the same story |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. Demobabe |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
102. Demobabe |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #102 |
142. I have no personal beef with you, Jason |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:01 AM Response to Reply #142 |
148. Demobabe... you're the master of spin |
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demobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:51 AM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Oh, you've found me out. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #142 |
162. PSY-OPS!! Your nastiness is in stark contrast to your words. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
160. She/he/it may have had something to do with the orignal "incident" |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. Wow! I Want Some Of What You're Drinking |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #164 |
168. You are clearly |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. Dear Oh Dear |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. All you ever had to do was reply to the questions. Did you and demobabe |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #164 |
176. That's because you don't know anything about it zipperhead |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. Nice...Name Calling |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. It was nice compared to what I could have said and |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. I Must Be Psychic |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 01:58 AM Response to Reply #160 |
165. I can only imagine you're confusing H2O Man with Symbolman. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. I think this means |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
78. It isn't the event. It was the coverup. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. :nodding: |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. The idea seems silly |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
88. Get lied to by someone, only way to assure you won't be lied to again by them |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
92. Some people must have all or nothing. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
98. TruthOut gets another shot, Leopold doesn't |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. I hope you don't apply that insane logic |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
117. My children are not "professional" journalists, so no. |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Oh so now |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Holding people accountable for what they've done and said is "Rovian"!? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. First of all, I do not believe you are really Jason Leopold |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. you can call me |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. So we can say you're a liar but we can't say you lied? |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. you truly don't get it. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. Intellectual integrity. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
99. Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
109. You know, it would have been nice if they could have just issued a straight up mea culpa |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Patrick Fitzgerald's office has yet to confirm or deny |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Denial aint just a river in Egypt. |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I am sticking to the story. that is my point. Debate the shit out of it here. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Nah, I've got laundry to do, and I've gotta take out the recycling. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
136. It wasn't true? |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. I am so not playing the victim |
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jasonleopold (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Did I ever once |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
132. As to 06cr00128 it appears TO has only the word of one source and presumably no |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
125. Don't discount TO specifically; rather, discount speculative articles generally |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
144. Wow! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
149. Of course - Just as everything Ted Kennedy says has to be discounted |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
156. There is absolutely no doubt that Mr. Leopold's writing has |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
161. Truth out is excellent no news source will always be 100 percent accurate, I go on voice chat and .. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
166. I have a story to tell |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #166 |
170. Mr. Pitt, you are the best of the best! |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #166 |
173. Well good.... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Would it be snarky to ask if it will be available within the next 24 business hours? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #166 |
175. Tease |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #166 |
181. Sorry, I don't trust you or TO anymore, WilliamPitt. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
171. GUEST #2: Look! The dead Prince! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
180. Fwiw, consider that a major component of BFEE is Information Warfare |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
183. I think your ratio is wrong. |
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