How do you think a McCain-Lieberman ticket would be received?

[kentuck]

I think that may be the direction we are headed. McCain likes to portray himself as an "independent" thinker and not tied too close to any political Party. Coincidentally, so does Lieberman. This would be the perfect ticket - get two Democratic Republican Independents running on the same ticket. Much like Connecticut, this would appeal to a lot of Independent-minded Democrats and Republicans, as well as a good portion of the Party. They could lose the religious base and still be competitive.

[Dr.Phool]

1. .

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[marmar]

3. Yup. Just the mere suggestion and I'm dashing toward the porcelain princess...

:puke: :puke:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Well, there's this group called Unity08

that is kicking around the idea of having a split ticket (they don't care who is on the top, but the ticket is to be one person from each party). They've been discussing things, and so far McCain isn't getting as much traction as Lieberman. But what is interesting is that Obama is getting a LOT of attention. Someone suggested a Gingrich/Obama ticket, even, though the idea of Newt on the ticket wasn't received well by many. They've been having a poll recently of which politician is the "nicest", by which they mean least partisan and most working for the people--I think the poll is still up. You may wish to go there and check out who is ahead and who is on the list (which is confined to current members of Congress) www.unity08.com

I'll go there and check back with a report soon.

[Cleita]

7. Now I'm heading for the porcelain facility.

:puke:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. Why?

Barack Obama WON their poll, with Russ Feinstein coming in second! Lieberman was third, and McCain tied with Dennis Kucinich for fourth!

I find that Verrrryy Interesting.

[Cleita]

13. I'm a bleeding heart liberal and will back Kucinich this time around.

And puleeze Gringrich is even more evil than BushCo. He would sell his daughter into prostitution if it gave him political gain. Really, look at his record some time. If he got a position as powerful as the President or even Vice President, you can be sure that by the time he wipes away all our social programs, privatizes everything including the roads you use, and water you drink, and sells the USA to the highest bidder, he would make Bush look like a painted saint.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

15. Well, Dennis has more support

and more positive posts over there than anything about Newt.

[Cleita]

16. Good. If we can get many factions to support Dennis, we might

get a president that can fix the Bushmess or at least get us headed in the right direction again.

[iamjoy]

22. I Like Luger For A Republican

or Chuck Hagel.

I'm not saying I'd ever vote for either, but if you're looking for some one who is tough on defense (without being an apologist for Dubya) and a deficit hawk you could do worse than these men. Olympia Snowe may not be bad either. John Danforth impressed me on The Daily Show, but I know little about him.

Mind you, I'm not saying I like them, I'm just saying I think there are few Republicans better suited to a Unity ticket

And, whether we like him or not, Joe Lieberman is a well suited Democrat. So is Bill Nelson of Florida.

[dansolo]

36. Joe Liberman is the worst possible choice for a unity ticket

The whole point behind a Unity ticket is bipartisanship. Neither Lieberman nor McCain have shown any desire to work with both parties. Lieberman has been undermining the Democratic party for a long time now, and McCain is one of the most conservative members of the Senate. The one thing that both of them have in common are their astronomical egos. They are only interested in what will benefit themselves.

[nxylas]

4. I think it would be received with raptures of delight...

...by pointy-headed Beltway insiders in their nationally-syndicated newspaper columns. The rest of the country? Who cares?

[Lost-in-FL]

21. They both voted for this fiasco of a war

and they are about "Staying the course". That ticket is beatable.


It still makes me sick to think about it... :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: There's even streaks of eggnog running through my nose... :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Cleita]

5. Too much Christmas egg nog Kentuck?

I wouldn't mind that if they ran as Libertarians and produced a spoiler effect on the Republicans like Ross Perot did, but please Democrats have no business backing McCain. He's not liberal, progressive nor even moderate. As for Lieberman he has already shown which side he's on. Eff both of them.

[kentuck]

10. But realistically...

Lieberman did get about 30% of the Democrats in CT and McCain is popular with a lot of Democrats also. I don't like it but I think it would be a very competitive ticket.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

11. They would be more likely to go with Unity08

as the whole point of that organization is to have a split ticket running in 08. The candidates have to adhere to a platform to be decided by the members of Unity08 (who will decide it online), which is now in the process of finding out how to get on the ballot in different states.

[kentuck]

12. It could be an effective ticket because...

Many voters, perhaps the majority, are disgusted with the partisan politics of late...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

17. I suggest that you monitor that site, then

because that is one of the main tenets of Unity08-they want non-partisanship. It is interesting to read the different opinions in the posts there. I feel it may develop into a good barometer of what political people who get online are thinking.

[me b zola]

27. What LIEberman didn't mention in his sleezy campaign....

Lieberman never mentioned in his campaign that he wants to increase the number of troops in Iraq. How do you think that most of the people who voted for him are going to respond when they find out what he is advocating? IMO, they may like the pork that Lieberman brings home to CT, but they're not going to like having to bury their son or daughter after the war is escelated.

McCain has been dropping in the polls and I believe that it is because he is advocating escelation...the same as Lieberman.

Activists in CT would do well to do some creative freeway blogging to get the message out about Lieberman's new ideas for Iraq. Make them freaking feel like idiots for voting for him and take the legs out from Lieberman from any further campaigns.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. You're not going to believe this

But I quote from the Unity08 main page:

Barack Obama has won our "nice" vote from among those nominated. Maybe it is his recent publicity. Maybe it is his "Bear-a-tone" voice for NFL football. Or maybe, just maybe, it was that people think he is nice. View the final results.

So Senator Obama wins this year's candy and he has our best wishes for the holiday season -- as do all of you who participated.

Unity08's goal is to mount a mixed ticket of Republican/Democrat or Democrat/Republican for President/Vice President. This nice vote was voting for the current member of Congress you felt was the least partisan and special interest pandering.

The complete list can be found at http://www.unity08.com/node/582

For purposes of your discussion, Obama won with 27% of the votes, Lieberman got 18%, and McCain got 10% Russ Feingold, at 21%, beat out both of them, and Dennis Kucinich tied McCain at 10%.

[Nimrod2005]

9. We will have a 2% turnout....the bad guys win........nt

[libnnc]

14. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Or the sound of a lobster being boiled alive...
Or Celine Dion singing AC/DC...
Or Jerry Vale singing Van Halen...



Please, for the love of all that is meet and right...Nooooooo.

[flordehinojos]

18. mccain-lieberman ticket? for me, like this:

:puke:

[Radical Activist]

19. the media would love it.

They love to promote the "sensible" center. Its a very beatable ticket though, especially if we have a nominee who can compete in the South.

[Dan]

30. not really,

....think about it.

[Lost-in-FL]

20. Party in the bathroom??

Hey guys... give me some room in there would ya?? :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. JoeMentum and JohnMental?

An Orange jumpsuit and a straitjacket.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Seriously. About like Ross Perot was.

As a 3rd Party alternative, it would attract "moderates" and likely more Republicans than Democrats.

[kentuck]

25. The top of the ticket would call himself a Republican...

have no doubt about that...

[Skip Intro]

26. Depends on who we run, of course, but I don't see an m/l ticket coming.

mccain/leiberman, I can't beleive, would fly. Hell, we've got pics of both of them snuggling with the murderous resident. I think a strong Dem ticket would pretty easily win over that. What that ticket should be, tho, assuming we knew an m/l ticket from the right was coming, I'm not sure. I'm still thinking a Gore/Clinton ticket, if played correctly, would have the most potential. But mccain/lieberman? That ticket only wins if we give 08 a half-assed effort. Imho.

[brazos121200]

28. If you want a split ticket with a proven ability to win..

what about a Gore-Lieberman ticket?

[sellitman]

29. And Rell could appoint a Repug in LIEbermans place loosing us the Senate.

Perfect! :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Hippo_Tron]

31. He didn't resign to run for VP last time, he even ran for re-election simultaneously

I don't see why he'd vacate his seat this time unless he were to win. In which case it probably won't matter because we have good odds of picking up Senate seats in 2008.

[sellitman]

42. Yes but last time he wasn't a snubbed candidate.

Perhaps the bastard would relish the idea this time around?

[Hippo_Tron]

32. Two warmongers, I think they would get crushed

Anyone who wants to have a serious chance in '08 will have an exit strategy for Iraq. McCain and Lieberman don't want to exit they want to escalate. That isn't going to play well.

[Infinite Hope]

33. It'd never happen, especially these days.

Too much added risk of assassination - lots of motive for a partisan whack.

[tabasco]

34. By republicans?

"We don't want no jew-boy in our party!"

[fujiyama]

35. McCain's appeal among independents isn't as strong as it once was

and I believe Lieberman's appeal among democrats has fallen quite a bit.

Plus, both are strongly in favor of escalating the war, which is not popular.

So while I think it'd be a competitive ticket (McCain and Lieberman both do appeal to ignorant "centrists"), it'd still be quite beatable.

[Bucky]

37. I would welcome this ticket with open buckets

I'm sure they like each other personally. But despite sharing views on Israel and Iraq and Iran, I'm sure they both know it's an untenable political marriage. On virtually every domestic policy topic, they're opposed to each other.

[bigtree]

38. it'd be good for a couple of laughs

like the rest of the floaters

[ornotna]

39. like this

[SoCalDem]

40. Fine.. let them run as the Independent ticket

Giuliani/Romney for the R
and then we could run whomever emerges from the primaries
or we could just hols Publisher's Clearinghouse style lottery..and be done with it..

"Congratulations,, you are the Grand prize winner..Please report to washington DC on January 20 to claim your prize.. the presidency..

couldn't be a lot worse than the system we have now :)

[otohara]

41. I Would Hope

the thought would make most people sick. Fear tells me otherwise.

[UTUSN]

43. Fine with me: Both of them are the Kiss-o'-Death!!!1 n/t

[SOS]

44. Two Iraq hawks with zero charisma?

Unelectable. Perfect.

[NewJeffCT]

45. We had a split ticket in 2000 (Gore-Lieberman)

A progressive in Gore and a DLCer in Lieberman.

I'd prefer two progressives, but I think a McCain-Lieberman would generate some good initial publicity, but then fade out because they have no base to appeal to.