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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:41 PM
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President panders to anti-manimal lobby! Dr Moreau flees country in rage!
I didn't listen to the State of the Union Address last night, preferring to maintain my equanimity by attending a talk on quantum physics, but I knew I could trust my readers to email me with choice weird science bits. I'm getting a lot of "WTF?" email about this statement from Bush:

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research, human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling or patenting human embryos.

It's pure political calculus. He throws away the mad scientist and pig-man vote, and wins the religious ignoramus vote…and we know which one has the majority here.

But guess what? Creating chimeras is legitimate and useful scientific research; it's really happening. Of course, it isn't with the intent of creating monstrous half-animal/half-human slaves or something evil like that, and scientists are well aware (or should be well aware) of the ethical concerns, and it's the topic of ongoing debate. Let's consider one recent example of such an experiment.

Down syndrome is a very common genetic disorder caused by the presence of an extra chromosome 21. That kind of genetic insult causes a constellation of problems: mild to moderate mental retardation, heart defects, and weakened immune systems, and various superficial abnormalities. It's also a viable defect, and produces walking, talking, interacting human beings who are loved by their friends and families, who would really like to be able to do something about those lifespan-reducing health problems. We would love to have an animal model of Down syndrome, so that, for example, we could figure out exactly what gene overdose is causing the immune system problems or the heart defects, and develop better treatments for them.

So what scientists have been doing is inserting human genes into mice, to produce similar genetic overdoses in their development. As I reported before, there have been partial insertions, but now a team of researchers has inserted a complete human chromosome 21 into mouse embryonic stem cells, and from those generated a line of aneuploid mice that have many of the symptoms of Down syndrome, including the heart defects. They also have problems in spatial learning and memory that have been traced back to defects in long-term potentiation in the central nervous system.

These mice are a tool to help us understand a debilitating human problem.

George W. Bush would like to make them illegal.

He's trusting that everyone will think he is banning monstrous crimes against nature, but what he's really doing is targeting the weak and the ill, blocking useful avenues of research that are specifically designed to help us understand human afflictions. His message isn't "We aren't going to let the mad scientists make monsters!", it's "We aren't going to let the doctors help those 'retards.'"

Once again, the ignorance and the bigotry of the religious right wins out over reason and humanitarianism. I think I know who the real pig-men are.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/02/president_panders_to_antimanim.php
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:43 PM
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1. We are working on a half man-half horse hybrid nt
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 04:45 PM
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2. They came for the Thundercats and I said nothing....
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:00 PM
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3. LOL!
Thanks! I really needed that. :D
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:05 PM
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4. Either Chimpy had the galloping DTs
or there's something about how Jeb came to be that the family's kept hidden from outsiders...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:32 PM
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10. LMFAO!!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:41 PM
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12. Thanks....
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:09 PM
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5. I remember an old movie about the sinking of Atlantis.
The reason given by the Roman gods for their action was human/animal experimentation by the inhabitants. Of course, the whole island sank, rather than the mad scientists being struck by lightning bolts. So I guess we the citizens are just as responsible for what occurs in those secret labs. We need a Congressional investigation as soon as possible. We all know that Congress doesn't have anything else to investigate, so let's define our priorities.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:12 PM
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6. See also: Der Chimpenfuhrer declared war against the Werewolves
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:20 PM
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7. .
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:30 PM
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8. Manimal rocked!
http://www.tv.com/manimal/show/2154/summary.html&full_summary=1

Though most of the time he was either a hawk or panther, he did turn into other animals

Transformations

Hawk (Episode: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)(Times: 7)
Black Panther (Episode: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)(Times: 8)
Parrot (Episode: 3)(Times: 1)
Dolphin (Episode: 4)(Times: 1)
Horse (Episode: 5, 8)(Times: 2)
Snake (Episode: 6)(Times: 1)
Bull (Episode: 7)(Times: 1)
Bear (Episode: 8)(Times: 1)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0531546/
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:32 PM
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9. LOL at your title
:rofl:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 05:34 PM
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11. Crap.. and I just bought a big Econo-size sack o' Purina Manimal Chow.
:cry:
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