quinnox
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:16 PM
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Did someone declare open season on Edwards? |
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What is this, all of a sudden threads attacking Edwards popping up on the DU, he just announced his run? So you can't lay off him for one damn day? I guess he making people nervous because her might actually win the nomination and maybe even the presidency?
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:19 PM
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But that won't make for a good thread.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:39 PM
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Perhaps I should change my name to EDDIE2008 !
Or, just to make typing easier: E8 ! ...
Or, since I like most ALL the possible candidates ... how bout
OCKEH-08 ... (pronounced 'OKAY 08' (Obama, Clark, Kerry, Edwards, Hillary in 08!)
I have yet to meet an obnoxious PRO-Edwards poster here yet .... but I have seen some obnoxious Edwards detractors ... Probably Clarkies .... (I LOVE Clark, btw ...)
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:19 PM
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2. This will happen to every candidate as they announce |
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Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 02:21 PM by rox63
They will be pounced on by those who support other candidates. They will be pounced on by the RW media. I think it sucks, no matter who it's being done to. I support a (probable) Dem candidate other than Edwards for President. But I'll do my best not to smear any of them. None of our Dems deserve the viscious attacks that all of them will have to endure. But unfortunately, that's the level our political discourse has fallen to.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:21 PM
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3. Perhaps posters are paid by other candidates to diss Edwards? |
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Don't think that won't happen here for the next 2 years. It's gonna get ugly.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:57 PM
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23. I don't believe that, at least here on DU. What other candidates have announced? |
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Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 03:08 PM by still_one
not many?
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:28 PM
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4. He's a "Trial Lawyer"!!!!!!!!!!! |
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You know what that means! :sarcasm:
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:34 PM
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I would remind everyone that just because you raise questions or want to debate a candidate's credentials, it does not rise to the level of "bashing." I think we ought to welcome questions and criticism regarding all candidates because in the end, full and open discussion yields the greatest truth.
Some people on here seem to react so strongly and immediately if anyone dares to suggest a certain candidate is not the second coming of JFK. Get over it and counter with facts, not attacks.
Personally, Edwards seems like a decent fellow, but to me he's just an attorney who happened to strike it rich and parlay that into a senate seat. I don't see the experience or credentials to be president. Just my opinion. If someone wants to prove me wrong, I'm all ears.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:44 PM
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15. Personally, I think "Trial Lawyer" is a Badge of Honor |
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But I may be a bit biased ...
Bake, Esq.
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Thu Dec-28-06 03:24 PM
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26. Trial lawyer is fine - I think the problem most people have with |
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Edwards isn't that he was merely a trial lawyer - it's that he was an "ambulance chaser." THAT is what turns people off, I believe. If he was a criminal defense attorney or some peon in the district attorney's office or public defender's office, I don't think you'd see the venom.
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Thu Dec-28-06 03:35 PM
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27. Edwards did a lot of good as a trial lawyer |
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He's not my choice, I don't think he served long enough as a Senator to be President, nor was he impressive in the Cheney debate but he's a decent guy.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:33 PM
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5. This is how it was in 2004 |
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Circular firing squad time.
For me, I'm not going to say anything negative about any Democratic candidate. I don't think it's wrong to question but I don't think it's right to condemn. It's bad enough out there in the world. I had lunch with my Republican cousin today and she said her friend had said there were "dealings" or something in North Carolina with Edwards. I asked her to clarify and she couldn't. But she will believe it because she's a closed-minded Republican. For my part I told her I didn't think it was fair to criticize through inuendo without specifics, I could name every specific reason why I hated Bush, but all the stupid woman could whine about was how great Gerald Ford was. She's an idiot, I guess.
I was hoping DU would be different, but perhaps not.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:39 PM
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9. Same as the 2004 primaries |
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I echo your sentiment, demnan.
I won't say anything negative about any Dem. candidate, just as I didn't in 2004.
Edwards was my choice for candidate even before he decided to run for Pres. in 2004. Long before Kerry chose him as a running mate.
Edwards is still my candidate of choice, and any opportunity I get to speak up on his behalf, I will take.
However, whichever candidate wins the nomination is who I will support ultimately, and all the negativity toward other Dem. candidates is self defeating, IMO.
-chef-
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:43 PM
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12. I think you hit the nail on the head |
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"I don't think it's wrong to question but I don't think it's right to condemn." It is too bad I don't think enough Duers know or care about the BIG difference between them.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:34 PM
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6. Some angry people seem to hate nearly everyone ... |
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I dont care much about it .... Edwards is a fine and decent man, and would get my support if chosen as the nominee ....
Consider DU a cross section of humanity: DUers can be just as needy, angry and dark hearted as any other sector of humanity ..... INSIDE is no different than OUTSIDE, in many ways ....
Liberals ? ... mostly ....
Progressives ? .... generally ...
ALL nice and all correct ? ..... hardly ....
Chalk it up to gross human characteristics .... the same snotty noses run around in here as run around out there ....
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:44 PM
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13. I think you are right |
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Thanks, I like to hear intelligent perspectives.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:52 PM
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:36 PM
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8. His announcement just focuses the attention on him right now |
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There are always Edwards supporters, critics, and in-betweens around here. They'll pop into any thread on Edwards or 2008 with their opinions. Today's announcement just focuses the attention, so there are more posts. Same thing happens when Gore, Hillary, Clark, or Kerry make news.
Get used to it. Elections are bloody affairs.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:42 PM
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11. If Edwards runs again, he's always good because he's got that big grin... |
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which leads you to believe he's slightly retarded.
-Lewis Black
Everyone gets slammed. Suck it up.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:44 PM
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14. Well I've seen him called |
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a snake oil salesman, and a powder puff, and just too (the horror) damn pretty. He's a LAWYER and dammit isn't that bad enough? HA.
But I think his heart is in the right place.
I also think Kerry's heart is in the right place-but I don't think he can win again.
I also think Gore's heart is in the right place-but I don't think he can win again either.
Hilary-her heart-no comment-I have no IDEA-but I don't think she can win in the first place.
Biden-heart problem, Vilsack, heart unknown-cannot win.
Who did I leave out? Oh yeah Clark-I have no idea if he has a good heart or if he can win. So if he wants to play-bring it on general.
To sum up: Edwards can win. Not perfect, damn cute, but very electable. OH and yeah I think he's a good guy, however, the DU hounds must find everything wrong with him. YEARS to go on this. OH Boy, fun!
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:47 PM
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18. Hey, you forgot Obama? Whazzup with that? |
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:44 PM
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16. I think he is terrific- I look forward to hearing his take on the issues. n/t |
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:46 PM
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17. Let the beat downs commence. |
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I don't understand it but there you have it.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:48 PM
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19. Everybody's candidate of choice is going to get trashed, here and everywhere else.... |
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Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 02:49 PM by marmar
Go back over the threads since the election - Vilsack, Bayh, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Kucinich and now Edwards have gotten their asses handed to them twice. It goes with the territory, and Edwards to me seems like he's more than capable of managing it. He handled a couple of very nasty questions today with stylish aplomb.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:55 PM
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22. Yeah, it's just politics |
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I like Edwards too but politics is a contact sport. Comes with the territory.
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Thu Dec-28-06 02:55 PM
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21. I disagree. Issues need to be discussed, it will be far worse in 2008 |
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so you better get ready now.
My question is very simple, why did you vote for the IWR?
Is that unfair? I am sure he will be asked that by Democrats and republicans alike in his run for 2008
Sure he appologized, but the problem for me is that the reason he should appologize is not because diplomacy was not exercised to its full extent, but because the IWR should never have given ANY president that power. That is what I am looking for...
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Thu Dec-28-06 03:13 PM
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24. some days it's Obama, some days Clinton, some days Kerry |
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now it's Edwards...whoever gets a favorable thread or two some people have to respond with a bad thread. It's so childish.
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Thu Dec-28-06 03:15 PM
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25. He's fair game like the rest of the candidates. |
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We won't even mention the one's that have not even announced and are still getting trounced on.
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