I'm afraid to think about where this is all going.

[Philosoraptor]

So many paranoid scenarios in my conspiracy theory tortured mind. While most of the U.S. is in a drooling trance, some of us are becoming increasingly alarmed. Without being a soothsayer, it's safe to say there is a bad moon rising.

Timing is everything to these maniacs, and they are in no gigantic hurry, they've thought this out long and hard, they've even prepared for the days when bush becomes extremely unpopular along with his war, they knew this day was coming, and I fear that the PNAC plan for the year of our Lord 2007 is a grim one.

Even the republiks are coming unglued, I hear them calling cspan, they either feel betrayed or they are about ready to start shooting liberals in the streets. Many of them are unstable enough already without dubya and rush egging them on.

EVERYBODY is pissed off, unless they're lucky enough to be so stupid as to not even realize what's going on, anger and frustration on all sides is a recipe for disaster.

This could be a very bad couple of years ahead.

[izzie]

1. And the wait to give the talk has got the whole mess started.

He has never asked but just did it. Embassy of Iran in Iraq. Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq all push up in fighting. I see it started and the killing will heat up fast. A real mess for the next 2 years. In 2 years Bush will walk out. Doing what he has always done. Leave a mess for some one else.

[Philosoraptor]

2. I can see him stepping down, to HEAL the nation y'know.

[izzie]

12. I am not shocked by anything he does. People who are sure they

are right often lack reason. Reason that has some facts behind them I mean. After all if 20,000 more would do the job when we had 160,000 over their it would have worked. And for keeping down terrorists? Well before 911 we had no Middle East bombs going off in the US and that was before Bush changed all the laws. It was the local grow ones and Am. that did that. That he is keeping us safe is silly.

[cassiepriam]

3. Rove started a civil war of sorts in the US. Divide and conquer

is a typical sociopathic manipulation and strategy.
This country is now the dysfunctional family from hell.
And I agree the planets continue to line up very badly.

[Philosoraptor]

4. The scariest thing is America's inaction & apathy.

[cassiepriam]

8. Bush did not take power in a vacuum.

And with out considerable help from many sectors.

Bush is a reflection of the dark side of the American psyche.

[melody]

9. small correction

>Bush did not take power in a vacuum.

Oh, yes, he did. One election stolen by Supreme Court, the other by Diebold.

If we're so passive/dark, etc, etc, why do they need to Diebold us?

[cassiepriam]

10. No, he had lots of help. The media, the courts, corporate America,

evangelicals. Etc Etc.

The voter fraud is only a piece of it.

[melody]

13. The media and corporate structure which are both multinational

The courts are controlled by the system.

Pat Robertson is a fascist multinationalist fraud.

[tom_paine]

5. Principiis obsta. Finem respice.

"Resist the Beginnings." "Foresee the ends."

You are correct in that a Nazi-like (though not racially based, why bother when "liberals" allows you to smear the hated groups, Jews, Blacks, Homsexuals, etc., without using the racist terms) State may be in America's future.

It could either come early, if the Busheviks sponsor another 9/11 on our asses using NBC weapons (or if Bushfriends like Osama do it on their own without prompting, which is less likely).

It could come later, if the Dems simply fail to oppose and reverse the destruction of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and we get a Democratic President in 2008 who fails to vigorously restore the Constitution, then then NEXT Bushevik who gets in will merely pick up where this one left off.

It also could never come, and that is what we must all WORK for.

[Philosoraptor]

7. For 6 yrs. I've been wondering where the breaking point is.

Mine came election night 2000.

[MadHound]

6. Paranoia is becoming reality, that's what's really scary.

The man-boy all but admitted last night that we're going into Iran and Syria. Delivering further ultimatums to other ME countries. Vague references to needing more Army and Marines(draft anybody). More plans for his crony capitalist buddies to make a killing. And a promise of further increased bloodshed. I think that our worst nightmares regarding this scenario are all going to come true friend, not a comforting thought.

The good news is that the American public is starting to wake up. College students are starting to rise, they sense a draft on the horizon. Public support is fully against the president. Congress is actually taking a stand for once. There is still hope that this latest insanity won't be implemented.

However there is an eerie thought that keeps popping into my head, martial law and a dictatorial clampdown. I can fully see this happening. All it would take is another "terrorist attack" on our soil, and not only would Bush have the popular support to implement martial law, but the scared sheeple will back whatever new military venture that Bush wants. This is my fear, and with Bush in a corner and desperate, I can see it coming about.

[Avalux]

11. I couldn't sleep last night after watching Bush -

and hearing the analysis afterwards on MSNBC. Keith, Chris, Brian and Tim all looked disturbed; and they couldn't quit focusing on the Iran component of the speech. Brian Williams was especially unnerving, when he described a private Q & A Bush had earlier in the day with select reporters; he had a notebook full of quotes but said he wasn't allowed to use them. Bush took them on a "tour of the world" (he said that twice). Seemed to me all four of those men finally realized Bush is bat-shit crazy, and will do whatever he wants, regardless of the consequences.

Nasty combination, PNAC and a delusional president. I fear the worst.

[butterfly77]

16. I couldn't either...

and the little sleep that I got didn't do any good. I woke up angry and then when I turned on the television, there was condi spouting some more bushit...

[specimenfred1984]

14. That speech was a fascist puppet show

We as a people are headed were we need to be headed, that's into the horrible realization that we've been had, lied to, conspired against and sold out by traitors.

I think it'll get a lot uglier too, with the worst case scenario being a nuke plopped down somewhere, probably by us. The pukes have been considering it for years and if they realize that they're going to be out of power for about 30 years, they might think it's their last chance.

[spanone]

15. All I can say is I bet the Defense Contractors are dancing in the aisles.

[blues90]

17. I don't know if we have years left

It doesn't matter mush now how bush got in , he is in and he seems to still have control otherwise someone would have taken him out of office by now .

Many talk about impeachment but this will not be quick enough to stop this escalation including his plans for Iran .

We just don't have enough info on how soon this Iran thing will explode or what the results will be when it explodes .

I can't trust anything as logic when it comes to bush and his gang . We don't know who is truly the major force behind these moves , certainly bush can't do this alone .

If we protest it is still possible we will run into resistence . I do believe it's possible since the police now look like black op militant and these containment camps are not just a far fetched idea .