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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:04 PM
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DAMN - Did Shrub provoke Iran into a new war today!? WHY is the MSM not all over this!!!
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 11:13 PM by RiverStone
Quietly as Condi Rice prepared for a thrashing on The Hill from both sides of the isle, BushCo seems to be starting another war to distract the American people from the "greatest foreign policy blunder since Vietnam" - as said by Repub Chuck Hagel today. Are not the U.S. raids of the Iranian consulate in Iraq clearly an illegal provocation?!!! Is Bush acting now as a dictator of a rogue nation, policy and protocol be damned, who will attack a foreign consulate without a vote of approval from Congress? WTF is this egomaniac doing!!!

I'm referring to this:

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-01-11T092439Z_01_BLA134271_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-IRAN-OFFICE.xml

WHY IS THIS GETTING SO LITTLE PRESS IN THE MSM??? Did not the U.S. commit what some can easily define as an unprovoked Act Of War?
Am I missing something - cause it seems this attack on Iran should be making BIG headlines and causing news SPECIAL REPORTS to be breaking into reality TV and game shows?

Shrub is a desperate and scared man, intent on saving not the people of Iraq, but his pitiful and wilted ego which history will remember as a failed president who fought beyond reason in a failed war.

Damn, did BushCo today plant the seeds for the next war - a war with Iran which will come to fruition just as my teenage son reaches draft age? Who is watching this reckless madman?! Who will answer for this new and this deliberate act of war mongering which fully bypassed Congressional authority? :mad:

I sure hope we hear about this from DEMS on The Hill tomorrow!



On Edit: added link to story - U.S. raids Iranian consulate in Iraq

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:07 PM
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1. Are you talking about the US and the Iran building in Iraq?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:09 PM
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2. Sorry, here is link to - U.S. raids Iranian consulate in Iraq
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 11:11 PM by RiverStone
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:10 PM
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3. I got an email about this very ealry this morning in the office
from others on the desk. I was ASTONISHED that it was not all over the place in the MSM internet news sites. ASTONISHED.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:16 PM
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4. ASTONISHED sums it up for me too!!!
I don't get it - I find the lack of press for this to be very mystifying!
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Baselinereality Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:20 PM
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5. That Thought Crossed My Mind Today, Too...
There was casual mention of the detention of the Iranians in Kurdish territory on NPR today, but it was not covered in depth. Perhaps the reporters are still gathering information. But it did appear to my naive eye that Bush was deliberately trying to goad Iran to action, as if we're trying to provoke them into a war. Of course, with all the links to militias that Iran has in Iraq today, I don't think they have to publicly declare war on us. They can continue conducting the current guerrilla war with us for years to come.

On that same note, I also noticed that the air strikes in Somalia that we claimed killed members of Al Queda but now it turns out didn't haven't received much press coverage either, which seems rather shocking to me. I think the evidence clearly shows that Kenya, in violation of international agreements on the protection of refugees from a war zone, under our direction, blocked their border, thereby preventing thousands of Somalian refugees from escaping Somalia. A few short days later, we then strafe I don't know how many villages and kill I don't know how many refugees, all in the name of "justice." I wonder if we're ever going to find out how many people we killed in those air strikes? I also wonder why, even in this day of extraordinary rendition which, I might add, the president refuses to stop performing, we felt the need to attempt to assassinate suspected terrorists from the air rather than hauling them in to face justice through the court system? When did we start acting like the Israelis?

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:24 PM
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6. Congress gave up its authority with the passing of the AUMF.
It needs to be rescinded immediately.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:42 PM
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9. Does that mean Shrub is the sole decider on "who" aided the 9/11 attacks?
Thanks scarletwoman - tho I'm still confused if the AUMF allows Shrub to act very stupidly at will - definition below. Does he have to justify his actions to anyone? Or is the only way to take his hands off the wheel to rescind it? If that's true, I place that at the head of the line in terms of legislative agenda.

* * *

The Authorization for Use of Military Force ("AUMF") (Public law 107-40) was a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 2001, authorizing the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001. The authorization granted the President the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed, or aided" the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups. The AUMF was signed by President George W. Bush on September 18, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force

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Mikey929 Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:59 PM
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21. Congress
Congress gave up its proper legislative role YEARS ago. Until I went to law school, I had no idea that Congress could farm out legislative duties to all the myriad agencies that operate in D.C. So all these agencies actually write law.

I have a friend who is an attorney on the staff of one of the Dem Senators. While the Senator works hard, there is SO MUCH that never even crosses his desk because of the volume of work. So it's attorneys and clerks and assistants who do all the actual reading. They then do condensed memos that might get seen by the Senator.

I don't think the founding fathers envisioned how monolithic the federal government was going to become. It was supposed to be a limited federal government.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:25 PM
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7. its getting litle coverage because it is IRAN that has to be seen as the aggressor
funny how it was the KURDS who put the kibosh on another attempted 'raid' by the americans.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:30 PM
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8. i was wondering the same thing
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:57 PM
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10. ABC called it a "raid in northern Iraq... a raid of an Iranian liaison office".
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 11:58 PM by Marr
Amazing. I was absolutely stunned. Even after the last 6 years of shameless propaganda, I was stunned. I cannot fathom how this story can be so thoroughly ignored.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:53 PM
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12. It seems it has already totally fallen off the radar this a.m.???
All I checked was CNN & CBS News this a.m....not even a footnote. My concern is that Shrub's little raid on Iran territory (as a consulate is) falls under provocative acts, which may in turn prompt a response from Iran - then WHAM, Shrub has a lame excuse to begin another war to distract everyone from the insanity and failure in Iraq.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:03 PM
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14. He's giving Iran Ammunition and he is pissing off Kurds
and this is letting the Kurds know they DON"T control their OWN Land and they certainly DON"T own their OWN OIL FIELDS
CONDI has spoken Bush has spoken but WHO ARE THEY NOBODY
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:45 PM
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24. His father is the one who gave Iran ammunition, illegally I might add... n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:02 AM
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11. The puppetmasters who own Bush also own the media. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:56 PM
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13. When was the last year the M$M was on the side of Americans and truth?
Therein lies your answer.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:06 PM
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15. the corporate media is waiting for the republicon cronies to give them direction
as soon as Big BushCo says its OK to report this, we will see it in the corporate media.

"so forget about it for now.

Move along, there's nothing to see here." - George AWOL Bush, Catapulter-in=Chief
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:51 PM
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16. Do you really think it is George Jr. doing all this?
Look at all the surrounding people.

Its all of his father's folks and Iran/Contra people.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:53 PM
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17. Probably not.
In my mind, far more likely is the following scenario:

1. Iran sets up bogus "consulate," which acts solely as a front for covert Iranian assistance to Shi'a groups such as al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.
2. US informant passes on word of bogus consulate's dealings.
3. US army raids consulate, captures all involved, as well as incriminating documents.
4. Iran doesn't want us exposing their actions, so they don't do more than the standard protest. We don't want a war, so we quietly send the captured Iranians back home after the brouhaha dies down.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:54 PM
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18. Don't forget Poland...
And Hitler!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:56 PM
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19. Specifically, he expanded the "arena"
but he's sure workin' hard to provoke them, yes. Worst thing is he can order military operations for up to 60 days without consulting Congress. The question is whether he'll risk and dare the Democratice Majority of Congress to take him on...in a "time of war" and all that.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:58 PM
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20. "If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?"
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:44 PM
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23. Comb the desert!! I Want those Plans.
"Man, we ain't found shit!"

----

"Sir, an escape pod was jettisoned during the attack."

"Go after it. The Kurdish-American Princess must have
hidden the plans on board."

"Your excellency, there are so many uncharted consulates.
It could be smugglers, it could..."

"You have failed me for the last time, ADMIRAL Piet.
Activate my Superstar Destroyer! Set coordinates for
off the coast of Iran!"
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:25 PM
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22.  It worries me now that there is a push to investigate .
Now that condi was put under pressure and the consulate was hit , bushs speech pointed toward Iran , it seems to me with all the pressure on which I agree is needed , this will only make it possible for these bush freaks to speed up their goals toward an attack on Iran .

If they wait too long then they may loose their power to pull of their long term plan .
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:11 PM
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25. M$M are whores, they traded principles for dollars long ago
but there are a few people talking about it, even the repukes on M$NBC.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:25 PM
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26. Best comment yet (from the absolutely essential site, "Sic Semper Tryannis")
comment to Pat Lang's post, The Fatal Flaw

Regarding the "raid" of the Iranian consulate in Kurdistan last night, the first thing that came to my mind was "Polish uniforms".

God help us.

Posted by: dasher | 11 January 2007 at 06:43 PM


Read Pat Lang's site every day if you truly wish to be informed about what's going down war-wise.

sw
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:14 PM
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27. It's in our media...
We just raided an office. Happens all the time. No big deal.

That's all I've heard in American media, nothing about it being a consulate, which, is the equivelent to soveriegn soil just like an embassy.

-Hoot
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