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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 04:52 AM
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Have you noticed that CNN is using another NYT Pulitzer Prize winning correspondent to attack Iran?
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 04:58 AM by NNN0LHI
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/12/sitroom.02.html

<snip>And joining us now from Baghdad, the "New York Times" Pulitzer Prize winning correspondent, John Burns. snip

BLITZER: Fascinating material.

One related question, his U.S. military operation in the northern part of the country in Irbil, the Kurdish area, against these Iranian officials, supposedly diplomats, is causing some heartburn in the Iraqi government, among the Kurds.

What's going on?

BURNS: Well, I'm in Baghdad. It happened in Irbil, 150 miles north of here. But it seems to me, from everything I know about it, that it's a straw in the wind. Whatever else it may mean -- and clearly the Iranians have been up to no good here. They have been supplying sophisticated weapons, including armor penetrating missiles and rockets, to insurgents here. They have been killing -- helping to kill American soldiers.

Whatever else it may mean, I think it's part of the no more Mr. Nice Guy attitude. I think when you see General Petraeus come in here as the new U.S. military commander, there is going to be a lot less patience from the part of the American military commanders, of the American embassy here. I think there is going to be a lot less niceness about Iraq's so-called sovereignty.

I think the line is going to be, this is the last chance. We're bringing in 20,000 of our troops. We know more of our boys are going to die. This time we expect you to perform and we are not going to sit by and see Iranian diplomats or any other kind of Iranian agent in Iraq, in effect, arm or supply, advise, finance our enemy.

So I think it was a signal event.

BLITZER: John Burns, thanks so much for your reporting.

John Burns in Baghdad.

Appreciate it.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:02 AM
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1. Wolfie regularly makes certain that the embers of the fires of the neocons,
AIPAC, and the radical religious right are fanned so they won't die out. Wolfie consorts with the devil.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:09 AM
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2. Remember when Wolf used to have Pulitzer Prize winning correspondent Judith Miller on?
Back on the lead up to Bush invading Iraq. She used to be a regular on all the CNN propaganda shows. Lou Dobbs appeared to be smitten with her as I remember.

Don
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:15 AM
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3. I have No Problem With John Burns ...
he's a very good reporter. I am sure Iran is sending weapons to the Shia. Is it worth bombing Iran over it ...NO. The Saudies and Jordanians are sending stuff and people across their borders also. More stuff is coming from Jordan than anywhere.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:21 AM
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4. Burns: Iranians have been up to no good here
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 05:29 AM by NNN0LHI
What do you suppose Bush is up to over there after over more than 600,000 Iraqis have been killed? Good things?

Good reporters tell both sides of the story.

That is why the NYT and CNN has Burns doing the propaganda for Bush over there.

And why are you sure Iran is sending weapons to the Shia? Because Burns tells you it is so?

Did you believe what Judith Miller was telling us about Iraqs WMDs too?

Don
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:54 AM
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8. Burns is not a Bush toadie. nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:06 AM
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9. People were posting the same thing about Judith Miller a few years ago
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 09:07 AM by NNN0LHI
She was a real pro on this WMD stuff we were told repeatedly. Front page of the NYT and everything. It was all lies.

Don
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:50 PM
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11. I have seen Burns give both sides of the story ....
He writes it all the time .... he was asked a question and he answered it.

You sound like a RW hack. Deal with it the Iranian's are going to supply the Shia with weapons ... that's who they are allied with. That's where the Shia fled from Saddam .... to Iran.

Everyone over there has an agenda.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:45 PM
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12. How about the "Winnebagos Of Death" Bush's whores in the media said Iraq had?
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 06:46 PM by NNN0LHI
Did you believe that BS too?

Don
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:07 AM
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5. cnn is a premeditated mass murderer
aided and abetted the Iraq crime and are now doing same viz Iran.....executem all, let god sortem out
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:12 AM
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7. yep...all major broadcast outlets have acted as enablers for every
war BushCo has started. If there is any justice, they'll be defendants in the Hague right alongside the neocons.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:36 PM
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14. the rightwing tapeworm fukuyama(sp) says 'history has ended'
so why should historical precedent (a few token punishments of the upper class twits while general population is burdened with the defeated guilt, forced to pay reparations using taxmoney etc) be given even a moment's consid? Why not 'write a new chapter' totally fresh and based upon nothing but justice, truth integrity and common sense; using ultra modern techniques and supermanly fbi/m15 etc agents to track down every single mothereffer who aided/abetted the busheviks since the JFK murder? Like everything else, them hypocritical bastards will use history to justify not pursuing the tens of thousands of traitors who conspired, in many cases openly, against the commons? why not? after all, history is ended (so let's execute them all and let lucifer sort them out)
why not...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:09 AM
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6. ah, there it is: "Iraq's so-called sovereignty"
I believe that says it all.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:36 AM
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10. It's all starting again..."Iran is supplying IED's and bombers to Iraq" ...
Iran is the reason that we are not Winning In Iraq...."Iran...Iran...Iran."

So when an incident occurs we and Israel bomb the hell out of Iran. We will create the incident if we can't provoke Iran another way.

Same old script and aided by the folks who brought you Iraq Invasion in the MSM..
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:56 PM
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13. Where is Michael Ware?
I haven't seen him at all on CNN for a while (two months,at least)... now it's all John Burns from Baghdad.
Anybody know if Ware is OK, on leave, or what? He was always very outspoken with the truth from the ground in Baghdad - I hope he wasn't silenced in any way because of it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:47 PM
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16. He wouldn't report Bush Propaganda. He told the truth. He is gone
http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6320&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

CNN -- The Most Twisted Name in News

Each day, more and more soldiers and marines are blown to bits. Each morning the streets of Iraq's cities are strewn with hundreds of shackled, tortured, beheaded Sunni and Shiite civilians. Yet, for the past year, the hypocritical Congress, corporate media and crusty retired military "experts" sat around gleefully playing politics and fiercely debating whether the Iraqi quagmire was a civil war. It was a rabid debate -- with all participants forced by Bush and Cheney's claims of success to argue but one side, with no pretense of delving into the reality of Bush's mad adventure.

Until Nov. 26 when Michael Ware, CNN's Baghdad correspondent, startled the world and brought the civil-war debate to a screeching halt. Kitty Pilgrim, sitting in for Lou Dobbs, asked Ware, "The Iraqi government and the U.S. military in Baghdad keep saying it's not a civil war -- what are you seeing?"

Ware, a seasoned war correspondent who is no stranger to civil wars and has covered the war in Iraq for both <em>Time Magazine</em> and CNN since it began, responded intensely, "Well, it's easier to deny it's a civil war when you live in the most heavily fortified place in the country -- the Green Zone -- and that's where the prime minister, the national security advisor and the top military commanders live. However," Ware continued, "as for the people living on the streets, or Iraqis in their homes -- if this is not a civil war, then they do not want to see what one looks like."

Ware went on to describe the stark inhumanity of neighbor against neighbor, family on family, ethnic cleansing, "institutionalized" Shiia death squads in legal police uniforms who roam the streets, dragging Sunni families from their homes never to be seen again -- Sunnis plunging car bombs into marketplaces...Ware said the recent surge in violence was a result of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr boycotting the Nouri al-Maliki puppet government and parliament as a result of Maliki meeting with "the criminal Bush."

A national dead silence followed Ware's outburst of truth. The next evening, Wolf Blitzer gave Ware a second chance to join the "best political team in journalism" by reigniting the debate. After sternly warning Ware that UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said Iraq was "almost -- almost" in a civil war, and that the White House, Bush administration and PM Maliki flatly deny it, Blitzer asked, "Is it a civil war?"

Again, without hesitation, Ware reiterated that the horrors exploding around him were nothing if not a civil war. He said, "the debate about whether there is a civil war is fueled either by the luxury of distance -- those who aren't here on the ground -- or by the spin of those with a political agenda to deny its existance."

A week later, Annan set Blitzer straight. He not only said Iraq was indeed in a civil war, but that Iraqis were "better off when a brutal dictator ruled their land."

Michael Ware is no longer in Iraq.

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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 12:59 PM
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17. Yup. I was afraid of that.
Let's hope he's OK and hasn't been sent to a re-education center of any kind.

To Michael Ware, wherever you may be, a salute - thanks for what you tried to do!

To CNN - on the credibility and integrity meter you're now about a hundred times lower (and you weren't too damned high to begin with)

:grr:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:39 PM
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15. Is that the "John Burns" who wears a Wig and Mustache making himself look
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 08:41 PM by KoKo01
like one of those "dirty 60's Hippies" that the Neo-Cons have been in a faint about for DECADES? THAT JOHN BURNS? The one that sides up with the Neo-Cons everytime CNN does their "WEEK AT WAR" Feature?

That One? He has a REALLY CLEVER DISGUISE....at least that's my view of him...not expecting anyone else to see what I see about his "fake Stuff" and that WIG!
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