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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:32 PM
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Bush: "I'm not a revengeful person"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/14/60minutes/main2359119_page3.shtml

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PELLEY: I wonder if there was also some sense of satisfaction. You've had this guy in your sights for a long time.

BUSH: Not really. Not really. I was satisfied when we captured him. I'm just not . . .revenge isn't necessarily something that causes me to react. In other words, I'm not a revengeful person. I'm glad he received the justice that was due.



http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/bush.war.talk/

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Houston is the adopted hometown of the president's father, former President Bush, and in discussing the threat posed by Saddam, the current president offered his staple list of complaints about Iraq's defiance of the United Nations and his contention that Iraq is working aggressively on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs. "This is a man who continually lies," Bush said.

He said the Iraqi leader's "hatred" was largely directed at the United States and added: "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad."




http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,435968,00.html

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"F___ Saddam. we're taking him out." Those were the words of President George W. Bush, who had poked his head into the office of National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. It was March 2002, and Rice was meeting with three U.S. Senators, discussing how to deal with Iraq through the United Nations, or perhaps in a coalition with America's Middle East allies. Bush wasn't interested. He waved his hand dismissively, recalls a participant, and neatly summed up his Iraq policy in that short phrase. The Senators laughed uncomfortably; Rice flashed a knowing smile. The President left the room.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:33 PM
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1. Junior sounds as if he frequently dissociates.
:scared:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:19 PM
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14. You got it. Too quick to deny something that wasn't asked.
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 01:23 PM by TahitiNut
It's all about him. The self-centered me-firstism of the pathological narcissist is legion. The projection and dissociation is repeated and frequent. He's totally reactive. The whole family is notorious for holding grudges and "getting even" - like a Mafia Crime Family, loyalty and revenge are their social and political currency.

The reason he CREATES 'words' is because he's in fabrication mode ... a mode he's very accustomed to. In virtually every instance that he mangles the language and ineptly spews some garbled neologism, he's deeply (for him) involved in creating complete falsehoods. Myths. Lies.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:34 PM
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2. and he's not vengefuL either
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:44 PM
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5. You misunderestimate him
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:24 PM
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15. Webster's says "revengeful" is actually a word...
I guess it's just not used very frequently. I thought this was a "strategery" moment at first, too...
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:14 PM
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32. I thought the same thing
Never heard anyone use 'revengeful' so looked it up also. It is an adjective, so revengeful person I guess is correct, but certainly saying 'vengeful person' would be much more common.

I would bet everything I own that it was a strategery moment and Bush was making up a word he really had never heard used that way before and this time just happened to be correct though certainly not common enough for this idiot to know this.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:31 PM
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33. I've never heard somebody use it -
I wonder if it is a Biblicism, and it was more of his "code talk" to the fundies in his base. Is there a biblical verse that uses 'revengeful', and if so, what is the context?

Anybody know?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:52 PM
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20. irregardless
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:00 PM
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24. .
:)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:20 PM
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26. . .
:) :)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:34 PM
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3. loophole via inarticulateness - ala "vengeful? yes, just not revengeful."
:eyes:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:53 PM
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7. Sure! No need to do it twice!
Vengeful is enough. Don't need to be RE-vengeful.

Bake
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:36 PM
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4. Man, I get sick of his constant use of that sentence structure:
"I'm not going to do XXX, because I'm XXX."

Or "We're going to XXX. In other words, we're XXX people."

I believe Stephen Colbert referred to it as, "We're going to do A and B, because we're BAers." :eyes:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:48 PM
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6. There are people who say that * is really very clever, in the way
he uses grammatically incorrect language so 'the people' will relate to his message.

Then, there are those who say he is just an idiot.

Weighing in on that debate, have you EVER heard ANYBODY say the (nonexistant) word "revengeful"? Is it clever to come up with words that don't exist? Is it encouraging to stupid people to be able to say "Gee, he's stupider than me"?

I contend that he's an idiot.

And, btw, a liar, too.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:04 PM
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9. It's pretty hard to figure.
But, like you, I think he's just stupid.

The fact that it DOES seem to resonate with stupid people, and help his cause, is bizarre.

I'm amazed that someone with those speaking skills is where he is. I know he's a puppet. But still, you'd think he'd be so embarrassed at the knowledge that he's the worst public speaker in the world.

I grew up in the Sixties/Seventies, and had some older, stricter teachers along the way. He surely must have as well. When I was corrected by these men and women, I did not make the same grammatical mistakes ever again. It was very important for most of us kids to get it right. Why be embarrassed, when you could just learn to read and spell and speak like grown-ups?

But there were always a few blissfully stupid kids. And now we've got one leading us down the drain.

Strategerically yours,

The New, CrazierOrangeCat :rofl:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:42 PM
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30. It's the "cleverness" of his psychopathic subconscious.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:56 PM
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8. "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out. He tried to kill my Dad."
Yep, no revenge there! :eyes:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:05 PM
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10. So sayeth Will Farrel as dubya.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:09 PM
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11. Words are nothing but tools for him
There is no such thing as truth for him.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:53 PM
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21. And he uses them so poorly. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:11 PM
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12. I am so tired of his stupid lies, what a ignorant man he is.
can he just leave the planet please?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:58 PM
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23. Ignorant and arrogant! The worst possible combination!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:15 PM
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13. with every blutterance from his pie hole he merely embiggens his assholitudeness.
:dunce:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:28 PM
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16. *snort*
That made me snort. LOL thanks.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:19 PM
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25. "embiggens" is one of the Simpson's greatest contributions
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 02:20 PM by maxsolomon
to our culture.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" - Jebediah Springfield.

and he was a fraud, just like *.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:29 PM
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17. Of all the lies he told last night, this was the worst
It made me actually yell out loud and I could hear my husband in the living room yelling as well. Does this man think the American people are stupid? What part of "he tried to kill my daddy" do we not understand?

When he said that he had watched "parts" of Saddam's hanging, I almost gagged. As someone else pointed out here, he probably now uses that video of Saddam dying instead of Viagra. There are no words to describe how despicable this man is.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:51 PM
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18. Many who have known Bush for years describe him as vengeful, petty and spiteful.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:52 PM
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19. No, he's just a stupid, lieing, violent, person.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:56 PM
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22. He's got his souvenirs
(snip)

Still, in his White House study, the president keeps a memento — the pistol taken from Saddam when he was captured. If there ever was a duel, it is now over.

more…
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003503165_saddambush31.html

George Bush is undoubtedly watching the videotape and rubbing Saddam's pistol.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:23 PM
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27. Why did Bush get so stumbly and incoherent
when asked if he viewed Saddam's hanging? That was really strange. He stumbled and stopped. And backtracked and hemmed and hawed. It was weird. I think, once again, he was lying. He wanted to simultaneously appear all macho and cowboy tough while also being somewhat aware that in the past he's come across as blithely callous (his infamous Katrina "comic" relief). He was totally caught off guard..."now, how can I lie my way out of this one?" It was very awkward.
I think he is now totally unable to be honest with anyone, including himself.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:39 PM
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28. "(R)evenge isn't necessarily something that causes me to react."
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 02:45 PM by WinkyDink
REACT is his term---as opposed to the actual question's suggestion of ACTING. I.e., Bush doesn't care to react if someone wants revenge AGAINST HIM. "(N)ecessarily", that is.
Further meaning, Bush knows he has acted in ways to inspire revenge.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:40 PM
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29. Revengeful?
:eyes:
God he is such an IDIOT! sheesh...
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:45 PM
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31. dudes a serial killer in my book
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:33 PM
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34. I'm not a revengeful person either.
Whatever the fuck that means.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:34 PM
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35. BOOOM!
What happened to his pants?!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:36 PM
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36. Ladies and Gentlemen . . . the President of the United States.
One JY-GAN-tic floppy penis.

Studious George needs to invent more words, because the U.S.A. doesn't look stupid enough.
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