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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:00 PM
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Hillary 180 prediction thread
Hello all you political junkies! Since we know that Hillary is going to run for President, I thought that it would be fun to attempt to predict the day when she finally admits that the war was wrong. Her husband called invading Iraq "strong and wrong" all the way back in 2003. On what date will Hillary finally abandon her support of this stupid, preemptive war?

PLEASE PUT THE DATE IN Month / Day / Year FORMAT IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR REPLY. When will Hillary flip from supporting the war to opposing the war?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:05 PM
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1. Hilliary will NEVER flip on the war..............
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 05:07 PM by Double T
somehow SHE will morph the 'war' into being necessary with the stipulation that SHE will bring IT to an end 'soon'; basically having IT both ways.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:58 PM
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5. she's gonna nixonize it? great... what I always wanted in the first
female president.

GAK.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:06 PM
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2. 6-1-2007
She can't get past Kerry / Gore / Edwards without it, imho.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:56 PM
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3. She will wait right up untill the end
to make sure the situation doesn't improve.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:58 PM
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4. It will be her "hail mary" after losing Iowa and the NH primary
but I'm also not convinced she will necessarily run in 2008.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:18 PM
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9. She has more money, she hired staff,
why do you think that she might not run? Perhaps she will run at another time.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:12 PM
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6. A lot of people think she already has.....
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2006/12/hillary_clinton.html


Hillary Clinton Says She Wouldn't Have Voted For Iraq War
December 18, 2006 4:02 PM
ABC News' David Chalian Reports:
>
Clinton has often been asked if she regrets her vote authorizing military action and she usually answers that question with an artful dodge, saying that she accepts responsibility for the vote and suggesting that if the Senate had all the information it has today (no WMD, troubled post-war military planning, etc. . .), there would never have been a vote on the Senate floor.
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However, she has never gone as far as some of her potential rivals for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination -- who also voted for the war -- and called her vote a mistake or declared that she would have cast her vote differently with all the facts presently available to her -- until now.
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This morning on NBC's "Today" show, Sen. Clinton was asked about her 2002 vote and offered a slightly evolved answer. "Obviously, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn't have been a vote," she said in her usual refrain before adding, "and I certainly wouldn't have voted that way."
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As she has long and often said, Senator Clinton believes that if we knew then what we know now, Congress never would have been asked to give the President authority to use force against Iraq, and if the President still asked Congress despite a lack of evidence, the Congress would not have agreed," said Reines.



I believe many others expressed the same when they offered their regrets.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:21 PM
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10. knowing what we know now, we would have skipped Vietnam too
right:shrug:
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:27 PM
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11. Absolutely and that can be said about all mistakes which have
been made by the US. Hindsight is always 20 - 20.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:20 PM
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15. so when do you think she will say that the war was "strong and wrong"
or just plain wrong? When will she say that her iwr vote was the one she was least proud of.

:kick:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:15 PM
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7. October 2007

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:18 PM
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17. kickin
the flip!
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:16 PM
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8. 4/5/2007
That's my best guess.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:30 PM
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12. Oh, but won't the faithful say that she really, really, really had a
change of heart and, even though she didn't sponsor it like some 2008 Dem hopefuls, she really, really, really regrets her vote and that makes it all right?

:crazy:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:31 PM
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13. February 2, 2007
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 07:09 PM by TahitiNut
Then Hunksatwney Hill will see her shadow (Bunksatwney Bill) and wait six more weeks. :evilgrin:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:35 PM
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14. 2-17-08
or whenever the first primary is.....
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:00 PM
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16. Republicans at work today were pissed because Hillary went to Iraq.
I couldn't help myself and got into their conversation. I said, why in hell would that piss you off? Don't you know she has supported this stupid ass war from the beginning. I bet you also didn't know she was a member of the young republicans when she was in college. Not a peep from either of them...
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