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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:23 AM
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Congress Warns Bush Over Iran - Resolution Telling Him-NO Iran W/O Congressional Approval
Congress warns Bush over Iran.“With President Bush adopting a more combative tone toward Iran and Syria, senior Democrats are considering legislation that would require the president to seek congressional sanction for military action against those countries,” CQ reports. “You will see a resolution saying they can’t go into Iran without congressional authorization,” said Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), chairman of the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/congress-warns-bush-over-iran/
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:25 AM
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1. Isn't congressional approval already in the Constitution.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:28 AM
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3. It is, but with someone like * in the driver's seat, you have to
keep repeating things because:
1. He ignores what you say.
2. He doesn't believe you or anything he reads (if he reads . . . )
3. You want him to know you mean "business" and you're not kidding around.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 AM
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2. And here is Bush's response to Congress


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:29 AM
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4. i was gonna ask when the second one happened, but it is a photoshop
isnt it? not that it isnt perfectly who bush is.... but just saying
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:42 AM
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10. I believe it is
Still, it's pretty good.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:52 AM
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11. pretty good. just my own reference n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:30 AM
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5. The Constitution
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:31 AM
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7. Bush is going to claim he's "protecting the troops"
Stock up on the popcorn.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:08 PM
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15. Bushco believes in the old saying that it is easier to ask forgiveness
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 12:10 PM by tblue37
than to ask permission--though of course they deny that they even have to ask forgiveness.

They move fast to create a reality on the ground that we in the reality-based community then are forced to live with.

Steven Hadley said this week that once the administration has the surge soldiers "in harm's way," Congress will HAVE to fund the war, because otherwise they would be putting the troops at risk. The Republicans have openly admitted that they hope to maneuver the Dems into a position where they are screwed no matter whether they cut funding or not.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:30 AM
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6. I hope they're very specific about "going into Iran" to include
missiles from naval ships and fighter jets at 30,000 feet.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:33 AM
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8. piss on 'warning' the ass, impeach him and then they won't
have to deal with him anymore. I hate all this my _____ is bigger than your's posturing crapola.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:37 AM
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9. "Only Impeachment Can Stop Him"

This is all well and good, but have you seen Paul Craig Roberts' pull-no-punches take on this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x257246
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:57 AM
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12. Good but not enough. What about no war..
.. period??????

No war. Period.

Block all funding. Period.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:58 AM
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13. They had better do it quick...
and stop dilly-dallying....or he will be in already.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:05 PM
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14. good, but he will just put a signing statement on it
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 12:05 PM by jsamuel
he is a Rogue President :(
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:21 PM
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16. My thought exactly. Must be attached to a bill he REALLY wants with
the caveat that if he attaches signing statement the whole bill becomes null and void. That is the only way they are going to stop these signing statements!!
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