johnaries
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:00 AM
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WOW! Think about all the strong Dem candidates for '08! |
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Of course, the M$M wants us to think Hillary has it all sewn up even as they demonize her. But Hillary still has good poll numbers.
My pick would be Al Gore, in case didn't see my avatar, but even if he doesn't run...
Edwards - very populist. He did extremely well in the 2004 debates, although most people skipped those and, well, he was up against Cheney. But, he was actually the first one to mention that Lynn Cheney was gay, and complimented Cheney for him supporting his daughter and actually had Cheney thanking him! I could definitely get behind Edwards, and he could win.
Obama - I have heard his charisma level compared to JFK's. Yeah, so he's not a WASP. He is passionate and can get strangers to be passionate about issues they never cared about before. He's a true leader that can inspire people to rally behind him.
Clark - not as charismatic as Obama or Edwards, but a proven leader. As far as National Security issues are concerned, no-one has the cred he does.
OK, now on the Repub side, who have we got?
McCain - destroyed his "independent" cred that drew so many to him. Conservatives hate him. He'll never get the nom.
Guiliani - c'mon, his only claim to fame was the 9/11 aftermath. He's got too many skeletons in the closet that will sink him with the "moral values" folks.
Gingrich - ? Seriously? He resigned Congress in disgrace. No chance. No how.
Things are looking pretty good for Dems in 2008!
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:07 AM
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1. I love the diversity of the Democratic side |
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all over the country, diverse races (Obama, Edwards, Richardson), and women. The Republicans have the typical old white men. I look forward to the primary season when the party can show off some excellent candidates.
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:29 AM
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3. Oh, the Primaries will be fascinating! |
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Dems having real debates, while the Repukes try to "out talking-point" each other.
I can't wait! :bounce:
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:18 AM
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8. It's Obamas to lose (?), but Hillary had a great interview on CBS today - and the |
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others all have good points - not a bad one in the lot, in my opinion.
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:22 AM
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9. This morning, WJ set up callers to talk about Obama's "inexperience" |
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but the callers overwhelmingly said they didn't care. Some even said his "inexperience" is attractive to them because it means he isn't tainted. I was very surprised at how well liked he is across the board.
I think he could do this and didn't realize it until this morning. :wow:
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:31 AM
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12. Obama uses Lincoln's inexperience to compare with,, the media today compared him to JFK'S lack of |
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Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 08:31 AM by papau
experience -
Just like the media's picked McCain, it looks like the media is picking Obama.
If he doesn't fold under the pressure, Hillary has a problem she will likely not be able to solve on her way to the nomination.
Of course, after the nomination I expect the media to turn on him under GOP orders - and we will see the drug use as a kids no longer "no problem", the middle name implying whatever, and of yeah, he's black and first generation out of Africa. But I'd expect him to win despite that.
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:36 AM
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13. One of the articles said he isn't the youngest or the least experienced. |
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And they used Wilkie and Junior as examples of presidents with less experience. Forget the third. Hoover?
The presstitutes are probably torn because picking Hillary would give them so much low hanging fruit.
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:17 AM
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2. Yes, it's GREAT, isn't it? |
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So many great people laying it all on the line.
And the reTHUG side has squat. :D
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:40 AM
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4. Exactly. I love the line-up we have and will be hard put to choose... |
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Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 02:47 AM by Hekate
...which is just how it should be. :bounce:
PS: JFK wasn't a WASP, either (White Celtic Irish Catholic vs. White Anglo Saxon Protestant), though thankfully we've come so far in this country that most people can't remember any more why it was an issue. I long for the day when we look back at Barack Obama in the same way -- as in, "his race was a problem how?"
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:52 AM
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5. If Gore runs, it'll be a no-brainer for me... |
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If he doesn't, Edwards or Clark, at this point. It won't be an easy choice, but the GOOD news, as the OP said, we've got good choices.
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:02 AM
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6. I totally agree. Compared to the Dems, the Republicans look |
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:43 AM
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14. to quote Han Solo, "don't get cocky, kid!" |
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The RW spin machine was able to make a man born into an artistocratic New England family and who attended posh New England prep schools and 2 Ivy League colleges, a failed businessman, a man who was an alcoholic, did hard drugs, is (at best) intellecually incurious, and who also deserted the military in a time of war and repackage him into a down-to-earth Texas Cowboy/regular guy and a good Christian man.
If they can do that with George W. Bush, I shudder to think what they can do with somebody who actually had at least one mediocre achievement in their lives...
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:26 AM
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7. Plus there may be a unnamed player from either the Left or Right Field |
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:23 AM
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10. In my world, politicians aren't rockstars. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 08:23 AM by mmonk
That's why it takes so much study for me to determine who I would want and why its so hard for me to focus on the next election with what's happening right now to my country which needs expedited help.
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:23 AM
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11. The only one there I would vote for is Clark. |
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:53 AM
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16. And what if Clark doesn't win? What about the general election? |
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:46 AM
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15. This is such a great group...all serious candidates |
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and I think I could really campaign for anyone of them....that becomes our Big D candidate for 08'
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