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Thu Jan-18-07 09:36 AM
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SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE hearing now: Leahy opener a stunner |
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"I have never seen a time when our civil liberties were more under attack by our own government." Webcast URL is here: http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2473Is it on C-SPAN?
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:38 AM
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1. I don't see it listed on the CSPAN schedule, thanks for the link! |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:39 AM
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2. Leahy: "In a matter of hours, they EVISCERATED the Great Writ of habeas corpus." |
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EVISCERATED it!
:woohoo: go leahy
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:42 AM
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3. I want to see Alberto SQUIRM! n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:42 AM
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4. He is correct, these lawless swine need to be stopped. nt |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:42 AM
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what is it with linksys routers that always causes the router to hang on certain real audio files?
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:44 AM
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6. Specter giving our Constitution a little lip service |
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playing moderate.
"It's a little hard to see why it took so long." <-- Oh, sure, THAT's the issue.. :eyes:
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:48 AM
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7. Specter should have his tap dancing shoes on today, |
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for what he did for the US Attorneys.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:49 AM
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nothing to see here folks, move along... :sarcasm:
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:49 AM
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9. At least he is getting to the issue of Habeas Corpus.... |
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...and right off the bat.
Man, he is dry as hell as a speaker, but at least going the right direction, IMO.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:14 AM
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52. Specter is the one who wrote the 'crisis' provision |
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that allows Gonzales to replace US Atorneys without oversight from Congress.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:53 AM
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Are they going to ask questions or just lecture him? :shrug:
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:54 AM
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11. Leahy just put Gonazles under oath! |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:43 AM
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113. I think they should be wired to a polygraph-electro-zapper so they light-up when they lie. |
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Buzz zzz, wooo hooo yoowwweeee.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:54 AM
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12. Ok, first lie of the day "I do" (being sworn in) |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:54 AM
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13. They are swearing him in!! Under oath at last. |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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14. Swore him in!!! WOOT! |
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Thank you Senator Leahy! Under oath! FINALLY!
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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15. Yeah!!!! Gonzales is under oath! Finally! n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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16. Gonzales sworn in just now |
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like that will matter....
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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17. Please let this cube rat know when Gonzo shows up. n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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18. He's been sworn in; now he shall be sworn at :-) |
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Leahy now asking audience not to demonstrate; notes that you can be blocking others who want to hear. Very smart of him.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:55 AM
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19. Gonzales was just sworn in by Leahy. |
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Giving his statement now.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:56 AM
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20. Gonzo's opening: "At the DOJ every day is September 12." |
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:58 AM
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21. What a freaking little weasel.... |
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...I just want to reach out at the real player screen and pop his head off like the head of a pimple.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:59 AM
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23. OMG give me a break! I hope they catch him in a lie. |
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So his license to practice law can be yanked.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:22 AM
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76. Kind of like the movie "Groundhog Day." n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:10 PM
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117. Only these guys aren't learning a damn thing. |
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So it's likely to remain September 12th for them forever.
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:58 AM
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22. Give 'em hell, Patrick! |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:00 AM
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24. Torture boy is not going to have a very good day |
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in fact I suspect he will feel violated at the end of the day just as sure as we do now. torture boy is already trying to change the focus
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:02 AM
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30. I have a feeling this committee already has |
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their questions ready, and they are not going to be about online prescriptions, or immigration reform...
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:01 AM
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25. What the hell is he babbling about the internet for? |
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I just don't get it. If he is so concerned about online preditors, why hasn't he brought charges against Foley yet? THAT would send a message Alberto. Otherwise, STFU!
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:01 AM
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29. He just found out that the Internet is for porn |
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The Internet is for porn All these guys unzip their flies For porn, porn, porn.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:39 AM
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111. There's porn on the internets? |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:01 AM
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26. Gonzo talking about online predators. |
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Somewhere Mark Foley is laughing his ass off. :eyes:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:25 AM
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80. Did he mention Foley? |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:01 AM
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27. He wants to talk about pedophiles and online pornographers. I |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:01 AM
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He is asking the committee to help him protect children against online abuse from sexual predators?
Like ~~ HELLO, ALBERTO???? Do you realize WHY you are sitting in the hot seat?
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:02 AM
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31. Gonzo wants more judicial nominees to be brought thru committee. |
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Yesterday he said he would only look for nominees who would defer to executive. What a sicko.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:02 AM
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:03 AM
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33. Leahy bringing up signing statements right out of the box |
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All that internet babble did you no good Alberto! :rofl:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:03 AM
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...Leahy has it back on track...the signing statements.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:04 AM
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35. You went to great lengths not to answer my question |
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Answer it now Alberto.....
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:04 AM
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36. Leahy: "You went to great lengths to avoid answering my questions." |
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re: opening mail signing statement.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:04 AM
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37. Leahy is really pissed. |
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You can hear it in his voice.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:10 AM
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45. I can't get the OP's link to work. Is there anywhere else I can find |
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this hearing? Can't believe that C-Span is bailing on some of the most important hearings of our times.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:12 AM
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47. Try going thru judiciary.senate.gov?? |
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Just a thought. try to find link from main page.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:14 AM
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54. Keep getting an error message. I'm thinking the Senate site is |
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crashing from all the people who want to hear this. Just a guess.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:17 AM
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61. Bastard. I'm gonna e-mail C-SPAN and say you have GOT to run this live. |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:13 AM
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50. It took a long time to load and I have cable. |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:16 AM
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57. severe overload.. I can't get in either. . . n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:24 AM
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:07 AM
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38. Gonzo: "No physical searches of mail except as otherwise authorized by statute." |
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But we scan it thru an x-ray machine, I'm SURE.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:07 AM
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39. NO C-SPAN! Why??? Nope it is not on C-Span |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:07 AM
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40. First instance of perjury... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 10:08 AM by Hepburn
...the mail is not being opened.
But listen carefully: NO ONGOING conduct. Ummmm...and not that he is aware of .... looking for deniability and someway to insulate himself.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:07 AM
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41. I think after this hearing, Gonzo is going to want to go "F" himself. n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:08 AM
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42. There is not going to be much of Gonzales |
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left after this hearing....
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:10 AM
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43. Yep....I think he is gonna be slithering.. |
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..out the bottom of the door when he leaves.
Thank gawd.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:10 AM
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44. Little weasel's squirming and getting defiant |
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while lying through his teeth. :grr:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:13 AM
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48. LMBO...Leahy has Torture Boy stuttering! n/t |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:17 AM
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59. "I don't know. I haven't looked into it" |
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LEahy rightly cut him off several times asking "Shouldn't you know this?""Shouldn't you HAVE looked into this?""Isn't this within your normal job duties?"
Gonzo is as relevant as Condi
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:12 AM
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with the big drop....Let his head roll across the floor. Surely he is deserving?
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:13 AM
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49. Leahy & Specter are getting a copy of the decision of FISC judge. |
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Gonzo says he wants to take that back to his "principal." What.Ever.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:30 AM
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92. See, even Satan can't be at two places at once. |
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Maybe Fitz will give Cheney an absence permit to attend the Gonzales show.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:14 AM
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51. "to push the envelope" |
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Yep, that about sums it up!
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:14 AM
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53. CLEAR PERJURY: "BECAUSE of the concerns that had been raised, we went to..." |
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FISA court to get authorization. When the letter clearly said they went to court BEFORE the first press accounts.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:15 AM
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55. Are we in Alice In Wonderland Here? |
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They deserve to get that order from the court... Go Leahy....
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:15 AM
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That statement from Gonzales about the court opinion???
Man, did Leahy catch him! Woooohoooooooo!!!!
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:17 AM
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58. THIS is the kinda hearing I was hoping for... and VOTING for!!! |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:17 AM
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60. It's also on Pacifica Radio |
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:37 AM
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116. Oh, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:18 AM
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62. LOL! Specter: (interupting) Answer my question |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:18 AM
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63. Gonzo is starting to stutter now, and they are only on Specter |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:21 AM
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...the 100+ page letter dropped off on them on the morning of the hearing...Gonzo just ADMITTED there was NO excuse for doing that!
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:18 AM
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...and he is NOT a friend of Gonzales. On the DOD doing stuff exclusively under the jurisdiction of the FBI.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:21 AM
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67. Specter: Can you come back tomorrow? |
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G: As soon as I can S: How 'bout tomorrow? G: As soon as I can S: How 'bout tomorrow? G: (snickers) As soon as I can
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:19 AM
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...just cut him off and basically told him to cut the BS! :wow:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:22 AM
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70. Calling him out on the continued games |
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Specter's not happy that they dropped 187pg memo on them just before the hearing.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:21 AM
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68. Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales? |
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I will come back soon Senator.... Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales? I will come back soon Senator.... Can you come back tomorrow Mr. Gonzales? I will come back soon Senator....
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:23 AM
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78. Al Gonzo hopes to crawl into a hole and hope that everyone forgets |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:21 AM
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69. What did they "drop on us at the last minute"? I was on phone w/c-span |
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and missed it...
I told C-span the hearing site was crowded w/users and a lot of people are upset - and that it's a truly explosive hearing to boot - and they should cover it live.
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Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 10:23 AM by Hepburn
edit for typo
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:22 AM
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71. OMG Specter bringing up anthrax investigation. |
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I think i'm gonna have a politicsgasm.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:22 AM
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72. Oh boy, Specter asking about the anthrax attack |
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73. Now he did it, Specter brought up Anthrax... nt |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:22 AM
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74. Alberto is such a slime ball |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:23 AM
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77. Why in the HELL Isn't THIS ON C-Span? |
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This is plainly lowballing the american people, and cheating them out of JUSTICE.
I want to see this man SQUASHED SO FLAT, that they can stick him in an envelope and mail him back to him mom in Mexico.
FLAT enough to be a Beer Label on one of Bush's Bottles.
Flatter than WILEY COYOTE.
We deserve to SEE THIS PUBLICLY. What is up with C-Span?
Are they Covering for BUSH now?
I remember I had to fly from Hawaii to Washington to film the Downing Street Minutes since C-SPAN was refusing to cover it, as were other media outlets, and then once I got there I had to FIGHT my way IN to film it. Am I going to have to get the Camera OUT again and fly to DC to make sure people are getting the REAL STORY? :)
Don't make me come there you fuckers. :)
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:25 AM
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One wonders if they are going to excise any potential perjury from their transcripts & video later due to governmental pressure.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:30 AM
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I will call, but later, I'm in Hawaii and have been up all night - I get to sleep while all the FUN is going on :)
Appreciate the Number.. I think I'll post it on our site TAKEBACKTHEMEDIA.COM and see if I can get some FLOW going in that direction.
This is CENSORSHIP. Pure and SImple.
While Gonzo is Under Oath :) LOL! Good one..
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:26 AM
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85. when Al Gonzo is under oath--it can not be televised. |
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:27 AM
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86. The revolution will not be televised |
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and we are seeing the opening shots.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:35 AM
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Leahy made a big deal in his opening saying that this was a public hearing. I think he mentioned it being televised, and it is at least available on the internet.
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:36 AM
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108. C-Span covers the Senate and House floor when in session |
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I just found this out from Tahitinut on another thread. Why it isn't on C-Span 3 I have no idea
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:29 PM
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121. So articulate! Well said. |
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You're da man, symbolman! :applause:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:25 AM
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81. Kennedy is up .........................nt |
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...this is beginning to look like a blood letting ... and NOW Kennedy is up! And...into the Iraqi war.
Oh, boy, need more coffee and popcorn!
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:29 AM
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88. Did he mention Abu Graib or Valerie Plame? |
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might aswell throw those in why we are at it?
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87. It's a damn shame Kennedy has to read this to |
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Gonzales.. Gonzales has wiped his ass with our Constitution....
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:29 AM
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89. Gonzales won't admit that Congress has the authority |
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when it comes to escalation of war...
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:31 AM
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94. Stutter, stutter, stutter... |
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...and Kennedy cut him off! LOVE IT!!!
And then Gonzo tried to deflect the question on Iran...and Ted brought him back to it.
BS from Gonzo.....and Kennedy brought him back to the issue AGAIN.
Go, Ted, go!
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97. What sort of Attorney General would say that? |
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certainly not one that belongs in this government. I guess Gonzales is so used to having a GOP congress yes men around. Can Congress fire him or is that up to POTUS?
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90. Gonzales getting the Constitition read to him |
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sounds like Kennedy.
talking about war powers.
Congress can limit scope of president's war power.
Gonzales not prepared to answer the speaker's question. Ha Ha. things get kind of murky according to gonzales concerning bush's ability to be an unlimited dictator.
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96. this is supposed to be the People's Attorney, not WH counsel |
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91. Gonzo says line between congressional and presidential authority is "murky" |
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He should know from murk, the swamp-dwelling troglodyte. :channelling malloy:
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95. Geez, Gonzales says he needs to check this all out. |
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Gonzales says if Iran attacks us, then bush has right to declare war. Hence, the need to goad Iran into doing something stupid.
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98. CSpan just told me they're going to air this on #3..later today |
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99. Grilling him re: Iran. too much to transcribe. |
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Alvie seems to be setting up the idea of a hypothetical attack by Iran. Ted isn't falling for it. He wants to know if Alvie thinks Prez has authorization.
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100. "I'm not aware of any plans to invade Iran..." |
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101. Gonzales: We don't need no stinkin Congress |
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In a time of war, don't you know the President becomes the dictator....:sarcasm:
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:33 AM
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102. UGH (Hatch will be up next) |
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Might be time to make another pot of coffee
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105. Kennedy ~~ the issue of TORTURE... |
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...well, it is about time Gonzo got this shoved in his face.
And Gonzo says....stutter, stutter...
...and then makes NO sense, but saying this is being done to "protect the country."
:puke:
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107. ...to protect this country...in a time of war...protect this country... |
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The only thing missing is "after 9/11"
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Softball pitching motherfucker.
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114. Thanks for the webcast link |
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Too bad this is not viewable by the general public. This means that only people with a PC and knowledge of the link will have access to this information. The people who watch tv will be blissfully innocent of the questions and answers. I don't like it.
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119. Webcast? Can't find a video. Is there one? |
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