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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:30 PM
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Just got home from work and logged on to DU and my head is
spinning re: Gonzo.

Can someone please sum up for us labrats exactly what happened and what it all means?

Thanks!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:34 PM
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1. eye 2nd that e-Motion.
please.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:35 PM
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2. Lordy
If someone figures out what it all means, I hope they'll tell me.

I listened to some of it. Leahy lit into him about rendering that Canadian to the ME rather than sending him back to Canada. Gonzo said that the Constitution doesn't grant us habeas corpus but only put limits on when it can be taken away. :crazy: Specter asked him to explain that little bit of :crazy: insight.

More to follow on other days, I'm sure.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:43 PM
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5. Do they Really think that or is it just another Obfuscation and Maldirection?
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 06:44 PM by patrice
Also dragging their feet and obstructing Processes by using Absurdities and getting everyone to screaming, while something else goes down in the wings.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:39 PM
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3. A good clip here
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:45 PM
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6. May I add the DU thread links?
Here is a link to 6 of the Gonzo discussion threads. I found them the best!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3148633
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:40 PM
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4. what happened
Well Fantasia, and Taylor are on Larry King live tonight!!! hurl.....how sickening


Dick Cheney is still waiting to rise on 2February


Condoloser Rice-A-Roni finally went to the dentist today


The Senate voted to send Jeff Sessions R-AL to Guantanamo Bay....permanently


Rush Limbaugh Overdosed on Viagra and Oxycotin, he is in a coma


Ann Coulter went in the hospital for surgery on her adams apple, the Dr's found it was actually
a copy of Hitlers book 'Mein Kampf' lodged in her throat.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:47 PM
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7. Here's how Glenn Greenwald put it
(midway through the hearing)

This is what I have learned so far: All of the Senators are very "concerned" and sometimes even "disturbed" about many things, almost all of them different for each Senator. Gonzales definitely shares their concerns about everything, and assures them he takes it very seriously and he is happy to sit down with them and explore ways to fix/improve/think about it.

For any information the Senators want, Gonzales does not have it, but he will definitely endeavor to get it for them. When pointed out that he has made the same promises many times before and told them nothing, he assures them them he is working diligently to get it, but that it is a very complex matter, and they are entitled to it and will have it (sometimes he politely denies ever having promised it before but then says he will get it anyway).


http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:48 PM
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8. Looks Like It RFeplays On C-Span At 8:53 p.m. & 1:22 a.m. est
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:53 PM
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9. To a great extent,
Gonzo's hypocrisy and lack of knowledge about the Constitution were displayed for all to see. A couple of Senators asked why their letters to the DOJ hadn't been answered. The highlight was when Sen. Whitehouse (D-RI) grilled Gonzales on testifying, making sure that the Attorney General acknowledged that he understood that when he was under oath, he was to tell the truth and not weasel around. Gonzales acknowledged that if he were not under oath, he would have testified differently.

Another highlight was the bit about Habeas Corpus--Gonzales explaining that since the Constitution just said that HC could not be curtailed by Congress except in cases of dire emergency, the Constitution didn't acknowledge that we have the right to HC!!!! The senator asking questions at the time (I think it was Leahy--couldn't keep my full attention on it because I was listening at work and got interrupted regularly) basically told Gonzales that he is an idiot when it comes to understanding the Constitution.

One other point--apparently Gonzales delivered a nearly 200 page document to the Senate, and Leahy asked him to come back tomorrow or next week to talk about it after the Senators had time to read it. Gonzales was non-committal.

Hope this helped.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:53 PM
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10. You have got to be kidding me...
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 07:56 PM by RC
"Gonzales acknowledged that if he were not under oath, he would have testified differently."

Just how stupid is this guy? No, wait. I just remembered who appointed him.

Just more proof of how reality challenged the Far Right is.
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