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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:28 PM
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How many smoking guns do we need?
Just from the past week...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6274147.stm

Washington 'snubbed Iran offer'

Tehran proposed ending support for Lebanese and Palestinian militant groups and helping to stabilise Iraq following the US-led invasion.

Offers, including making its nuclear programme more transparent, were conditional on the US ending hostility.

But Vice-President Dick Cheney's office rejected the plan, the official said.

The offers came in a letter, seen by Newsnight, which was unsigned but which the US state department apparently believed to have been approved by the highest authorities.

In return for its concessions, Tehran asked Washington to end its hostility, to end sanctions, and to disband the Iranian rebel group the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and repatriate its members.

But as soon as it got to the White House, the old mantra of 'We don't talk to evil'... reasserted itself



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http://www.playboy.com/magazine/features/lockheed/index.html

In November of 2002, Stephen J. Hadley, deputy national security advisor, asked Bruce Jackson to meet with him in the White House. They met in Hadley's office on the ground floor of the West Wing, not far from the offices of Vice President Dick Cheney and then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. Hadley had an exterior office with windows, an overt indicator of his importance within the West Wing hierarchy.

This was months before Secretary of State Colin Powell would go to the United Nations to make the administration's case for the invasion of Iraq, touting the subsequently discredited evidence of weapons of mass destruction. But according to Jackson, Hadley told him that "they were going to war and were struggling with a rationale" to justify it. Jackson, recalling the meeting, reports that Hadley said they were "still working out" a cause, too, but asked that he, Jackson, "set up something like the Committee on NATO" to come up with a rationale.

...

"I didn't see the point about WMDs or an Al Queda connection," Jackson says. In his mind the human rights issue was sufficient to justify a war.

Jackson had long been a proponent of unseating Hussein, and the committee dovetailed with his quite real sense of mission. In addition to his role in the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and the U.S. Committee on NATO, he had also been president of the Project for Transitional Democracies, organized to "accelerate democratic reform" in Eastern Europe.

Still, there is another way to view Jackson's activities. As The New York Times put it in a 1997 article, "at night Bruce Jackson is president of the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO, giving intimate dinners for senators and foreign officials. By day, he is director of strategic planning for Lockheed Martin Corporation, the world's biggest weapons maker."


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AGiordino Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:30 PM
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1. When the world is on fire . . .
Smoking guns are irrelevant
and can't be seen for the pall
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:30 PM
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2. Let's put it this way. We went to war with Iraq on much less.
What Congress continues to let BushCo get away with is criminal in itself.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:32 PM
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3. Can we impeach them yet? - n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:59 PM
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6. Its way past time...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:32 PM
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4. I'm not sure.
Must be a boatload.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:42 PM
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5. One. Bush and Cheney turned Americans into Torturers.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 02:47 PM by pat_k
The charge is proven by the public record. It is long past time for impeachment hearings to make that case. There is nothing to investigate.

If the Senate fails to remove Bush and Cheney from office on the war crimes, then the House votes out articles covering the criminal domestic spying. Bush and Cheney have confessed to violating FISA. There is no defense. If the Senate fails to remove Bush and Cheney for that, the House votes out articles covering the suspension of Habeas. . .

There are other charges. We just need to make one stick. We just need to make it clear that we will not stop until we make one stick. We give them the choice. They can choose to resign or choose to endure a thousand cuts as their inevitable removal approaches.

Bush and Cheney have declared war on the Constitution. They have fought that war on many fronts. Impeachment is the weapon we gave Congress to defend against such attacks. To rescue the Constitution, we only need to defeat them on one front.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:05 PM
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7. And how fitting this topic comes up that I saved this cartoon by the Great Ward Sutton .. . .
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