Is anyone concerned that Castro (oil) has invited President Mahmoud Ahmadi

[lonestarnot]

for a ride around Cuba in a golf cart? and on edit probably offering him cigars instead of a place to store his nukes?:evilgrin:

[mike_c]

1. is there any reason we should be concerned...?

:shrug:

[lonestarnot]

3. Were you around for the Bay of Pigs?

And isn't Russia on Iran's side?

[mike_c]

5. what on earth does this have to do with the Bay of Pigs....

For the record, I was a child when the CIA tried to invade Cuba by proxy. But what on earth could the president of Iran visiting Cuba have to do with the Bay of Pigs or anything else that I should be concerned about? He's a head of state. Castro is a head of state. Both have oil. Both have long standing enmity for the United States, but both have good reasons, so that gives them something to make small talk about. I'm sorry, your OP was just too cryptic for me. What portentious aspect of this meeting do you think should concern Americans? Serious question.

[lonestarnot]

6. Oh boy here we go ... "for the record"

blah blah blah. Have you been paying attention to what is happening with Iran?

[movonne]

9. Have you???

[lonestarnot]

12. absolutely paying attention.

[mike_c]

11. with respect...

...this is beginning to seem like it's going nowhere. Which part of "Have you been paying attention to what is happening with Iran?" is relevant here? The cartoon riots? Iran's dispute with the U.S. over nuclear development? Ahmadinejad's comments about the holocaust? Social unrest among moderate young people? And what does any of it have to do with Cuba? I'm not being snarky-- I'm requesting clarification.

[lonestarnot]

13. Well, I'm may be a bit off color but

we invaded Iraq for oil secondarily and primarily for strategic positioning to launch an attack on Iran, so why wouldn't Iran try to protect itself with a strategical alliance with Cuba?

[stop the bleeding]

14. lonestarnot - could you please give me a link to where you saw this? n/t

[lonestarnot]

15. Here

http://www.worldpress.org/feed.cfm?http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0602057373183614.htm

[mike_c]

18. oh, why didn't you just say so...?

It's hard to imagine how either Iran OR Cuba might benefit from such an alliance. Cuba is militarily and economically pretty toothless. Are you suggesting that Iran might be preparing to arm Cuba for another missile crisis? That's a pretty big reach-- Iran's ballistic missile capability is not on the global threat level that the Russians commanded, and they don't currently have nuclear capability. Transporting missiles to Cuba secretly and deploying them would be even more difficult today than it was in the early 60's, and besides, Castro has no reason to do so, and Cuba is not a client state of Iran as it was of Russia. I'm still making some assumptions about the direction you're going in-- am I on the right track?

[lonestarnot]

19. You leave out their (Iran's) new found Russian Alliance.

[lonestarnot]

20. Personally, I think Castro is very fucking old for a leadership role and

would like nothing better than to kick the ass of the USA before he croaks.

[mike_c]

24. hmmm-- I think Castro is very dedicated to his Cuban revolution...

...even after all these years and that he has absolutely no desire to jeopardize Cuba's future. Seriously. I think you can utterly count on Castro to act in Cuba's best interests, at least within the context of the revolution. Pissing matches with the U.S. are OK, but shooting matches would be suicidal, both for Castro and for his beloved Cuba. I SERIOUSLY doubt that any such thing will happen.

Remember that in 1962 Cuba was a client state of the Soviet Union, and Fidel not only had Khrushchev pushing him to deploy the missiles, he had the Russians' assurance of protection. As soon as Khrushchev blinked, Castro backed off, and in fact the real confrontation was always between Kennedy and Khrushchev, not Kennedy and Castro. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not Nikita Khrushchev, and Iran is not the Soviet Union. Nor is modern Russia the Soviet Union, for that matter. Putin would have nothing to do with such a scheme, but all that's moot-- Castro is no fool, and he will not do anything to endanger Cuba or the revolution.

[lonestarnot]

26. I am still wondering about new alliances, even secret alliances that our

intelligence has been unsuccessful to penetrate. But I have a great imagination.

[lonestarnot]

22. Maybe it was all that hiding under my desk.

[leftstreet]

7. My only concern is that Castro has a plan to keep US out of Cuba

after he passes. The crime syndicate simply WAITING with all the plans to grab that country.

[Greeby]

2. I thought Fidel knew better than to hang out with nutjobs

:crazy:

[lonestarnot]

4. Apparently he likes the dude if he's allowing him to ride the golf cart.

[sasha031]

8. do you have a link to all your enlightening information?

or is it just blowing out the same end Rush uses...

[lonestarnot]

16. here

http://www.worldpress.org/feed.cfm?http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0602057373183614.htm

[sasha031]

25. well I guess the enemy of the enemy is my friend

:sarcasm:
not every country sees through the US's eyes. if they have business to attend to, that is not our affair.
The Iranians themselves are good people, even though our der leader has them on the axis of evil.I have read they are even sure how they ended up with their president. He didn't run on a radical platform, he promised the poor some of the oil reserves and I am sure the US bombing the hell out of their neighbor made them choose not the most liberal of the group...whatever

[lonestarnot]

27. Everything you say about Iran is true, very good and descent people...

was not spewing condemnation of anyone, just wondering about the invitation.

[stop the bleeding]

10. lonestarnot - could you please give me a link ??? n/t

[lonestarnot]

17. here

http://www.worldpress.org/feed.cfm?http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0602057373183614.htm

[High Plains]

21. Your post is misleading, if not downright silly.

The Cubans invite the Iranian president to a meeting of the Non-Aligned Movement, which is basically a remnant of the Cold War where the Third World tried to play the West off against the East. It's also another chance for Castro to poke Washington in the eye, a sport at which he has become very proficient over the years.

Nothing said about golf carts, nukes, or cigars.

Am I concerned? No.

[lonestarnot]

23. I think you also dismiss this much to nonchalantly.

And misleading? What you don't think he will go for a ride in the golf cart?

[Mika]

28. WTF is up with you and your golf cart crap?

There is nothing about any ride in a golf cart, nor any mention of cigars.

The article only mentions Cuba's support of Iran's right to develop peaceful nukular power.

[lonestarnot]

29. I didn't "quote" anything did I? Golf cart, all deals f'n deals are made

in fucking golf carts! Everybody knows that! And just what the fuck do you think Castro is going to do in a golf cart! Well let me tell you. I think he will smoke a fucking cigar! Put that in your pipe and SMOKE IT! :FLAME: (for your cigar of course!) :evilgrin:

[Mika]

31. FYI, Castro doesn't smoke any more.

I really can't tell if your responses in this entire thread are in jest or whacked. :crazy:

President Castro quit smoking in the mid 90's.

He won a WHO award for his anti smoking campaign.

Plus, Mr Castro doesn't go anywhere in a damned golf cart (in Cuba), but he does drive around Havana and Santiago in an open jeep (I'd like to see W try driving around in any large city in an open jeep).

[stop the bleeding]

30. OK, OK, ok, ok - lets get some bearing here.

This is the most key part of article.

http://www.worldpress.org/feed.cfm?http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0602057373183614.htm


In a meeting with Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque, President Ahmadinejad said that the negative votes and abstention of governing board's member states to anti-Iran resolution indicated that there is no consensus about Western states allegations against Iran.

He thanked Cuba for the negative vote for the resolution and hoped that upcoming Summit of Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) would be held at higher level with groundbreaking outcome.

So it was only the Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque in Iran.

People could be forming alliances or they could be just doing the collective "F U" to the US/Administration.


What would make this significant is how many times do these people get together?

Anyone have ideas.

I think anything right now that involves Iran is something to keep an eye on.