Official Homeland Security Committee Brownie Bake – Thread 3

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x378137#378295

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x378593





have a pretzel

[stop the bleeding]

1. sounds like brown is throwing the WH under the bus n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Let's hope so!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Yep. at least this Joe guy

can't remember if he talked to the Pres.

[LeftNYC]

3. He wont go as far as Bush though...fearing for his life..nt

[The Witch]

4. repost, since when do we heart Brownie around here?

(repost from prev thread)

I'm really confused, and I really hate to say it, but aren't we sort of unsure as to how we want this to go? We throw Brownie under the bus but pick him right up if we think he will throw the WH under the bus?

Or is it that Brownie was incompetent, but at least he's honest?

Honestly, folks, can someone help me with this? I feel like I don't know where DU is on this?

[LeftNYC]

10. Brownie is still despicable, but he is the lone gunmen theory

they threw him under the bus, deservedly so, but one man is not alone in taking responsibility.

[gkhouston]

12. who cares where DU is on this?

You be wherever you are. Me, I expect a lot of CYA in Brownie's testimony. It's just the WH's hard luck that the only ass Brownie's interested in protecting now is his own.

[The Witch]

20. I'm aware of the sheepleness of asking the question.

:shrug: :hide:

[gkhouston]

23. hee. No need to hide. Great avatar, btw. n/t

[CornField]

I think, incompetent or not, the people here simply want the truth

to be told. While we may not appreciate Brown's lack of judgment and we definitely don't appreciate someone so inept being given an important governmental appointment, we can appreciate that same person now coming forth and being blunt about what happened.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. Just for today, I'm rooting for him to spill the beans!

I'll go back to despising him tomorrow, I promise. :)

[CornField]

5. Awww, man, don't insult my Girl Scouts like that!

Those girls really are working hard.

Nonetheless, thanks for the new thread, Viva! :hi:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

9. I was a brownie too, no offense intended...

I just couldn't resist!

[Roland99]

6. A little reminder that Chertoff was still clueless as late as THURSDAY

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=378593&mesg_id=378886

[Dunvegan]

7. Is Joe trying to trip Brownie up? Brownie is fighting back...

...but he's soooo lame.

Sombody get him a good lawyer, STAT!

[Catchawave]

24. We got JOEMENTUM....! Making Brownie squirm he is :)

[stop the bleeding]

8. He is throwing Bush under the bus - Hagen tells bush everything n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Say, Joementum talks tougher than he looks. :^)

[LeftNYC]

15. the cameras are on...nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. there is that

[deminks]

13. Brown: If I told Hagan or Card, I told the President

[The Witch]

14. Deputy Secretary Michael Jackson... well, there's the problem right there!

:shrug: :rofl: :shrug:

[speedoo]

Brown's memory malfunctions are bothering me.

He too often does not remember who he spoke to.

He will be easy pickings for the WH to attack.

[LeftNYC]

25. the Alito/Gonzalez GOP disease...how much is budgeted to

fix this problem?

[pdxmom]

16. I find it interesting that Brownie keeps saying "Chertoff" - not Mr.

Chertoff or Sec. Chertoff. Seems like it may be a subliminal swipe at Chertoff, personally. Not giving him any respect.

[LeftNYC]

17. Chertoff was buying shoes for Rice...lol..nt

[malta blue]

18. Brownie sounds scared... eom

[rodeodance]

21. whoever was in charge decided it was imp. and got on plane and went

to Conference in Atlanta on avian flu. oops.

[speedoo]

56. Coleman now pimping for *.

Blaming everyone except the WH. And blaming Brown. Brown says Coleman took Brown's emails out of context.

[Stephanie]

22. But listen to me - Bush wasn't IN Crawford that night - he was in CA

He was in San Diego at a fundraiser at the Hotel del Coronado. What is Brownie talking about? Rummy was there too - photographed at a baseball game.

[rodeodance]

27. msnbc showing damning pics of flooding on split screeen

[LeftNYC]

28. doesnt matter...Brown points out that telling Card and Hagan is

as good as telling Bushboy

[Sydnie]

67. and we need to note that for Libby and his situation too

we already have one former official testifying to the fact that they were the same as, so we need to remind them when Libby tries to say it isn't the same thing.

[CornField]

33. I'm quite sure a person on White House staff would have a cell phone #

It doesn't really matter where he was as long as Brown can prove that he contacted WH staff.

[carolinalady]

55. Did he spend the night or go back to Crawford?

[madmark]

26. bushco will hate this testimony about the inner communications

structure and methodology; its the first witness under oath to do this ive seen.

[rodeodance]

31. Brownie--It was 'balls to the walls" I knew it bad. WHOW.

[Sydnie]

81. "balls to the walls" but don't bother me until I get my dogs boarded,

my shirts purchased and have my dinner! :rofl:

[herbbrown]

32. "It was balls to the wall" oh my

[Viva_La_Revolution]

29. heh heh. He said "Balls"

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

39. oh that little cockroach Repug is asking questions now!

[rodeodance]

48. difussing the blame (geesh---they ARE questing brownie now-get on

with it)

[rodeodance]

53. ah ha--Brownie is slaming him down. te he.

[janx]

34. "It was balls to the wall" n/t

[malta blue]

40. he really did say that, didn't he

:rofl:

[The Witch]

35. Did he just say "balls to the wall"?

My GOODNESS, Brownie!

[GreenPartyVoter]

*lol*

[The Witch]

52. Anagrams to "Wah! Bot tells all!"

:spray: :spray:

[Dunvegan]

36. Someone get Brownie a DECENT lawyer and to organize his timeline, STAT!

They're going to tear him apart.

[berner59]

Coleman...blaming the locals....

What an ass...

[Norquist Nemesis]

37. UGH! The slick car salesman is up now

I can't stand Coleman. :puke:

[Greeby]

38. Ho boy, Coleman up

:eyes:

[deminks]

47. Break time ....mute nt

[herbbrown]

50. Balls to the Walls now by Coleman

this might get good

[LeftNYC]

82. Rove teabagging Coleman...nt

[SoCalDem]

73. Normie didn;t pay his dentist for the chiclet-choppers

http://www.milnardds.com/enhanced_smiles/featured_smiles/page_3.html


before....................................after

[LeftNYC]

41. Is Franken running against this guy officially? nt

[SoCalDem]

42. Is Joementum the ONLY dem on the panel?

Stevens:puke:
Coleman:puke:
Collins: fingernail-meet-blackboard
Joe:zzzzzzzzzzz

[LeftNYC]

46. no...I know Lautenberg is on there too..nt

[gimama]

89. Mark Dayton, MinneSOta..he's awesome

stay tuned..
Shut UP,Mr.coleman

[stop the bleeding]

43. catastrophe within a catastrophe - Balls to the Wall - never thought I'd

hear that in a hearing

[AlCzervik]

44. oh listen to Coleman the used car salesman baching Blanco.

[Catchawave]

45. Coleman up, who did he thank for "leadership" ?

that wasn't directed to brown was it ?

[LeftNYC]

collins...nt

[Catchawave]

58. whew, i was worried there.

[HootieMcBoob]

49. He had no history to suggest that he was in any way up to the task

of heading up FEMA. However, he appears to be being very straightforward and honest in his answers to these questions today. In contrast to every other person from this administration we've ever, ever seen questioned on anything at all, this is a breath of fresh air. You have to give credit where credit's due.

[vanboggie]

51. Coleman creature pissing Brownie off

This could be the trigger

[LeftNYC]

59. funny how the Repugs are attacking Brownie...

this is a no win situation for them in my opinion...

[RSchewe]

79. How the tables have turned........ n/t

[HootieMcBoob]

62. i like it : ) n/t

[Lex]

70. Coleman is so stupid. Yeah, piss him off buddy.

This could get really good.

[speedoo]

77. Coleman reading Rove's memo now. WH pimp.

Let's hope Coleman has this blow up in his ugly face.

[rpgamerd00d]

54. My opinion of this Hearing

[skooooo]

61. lol

[rodeodance]

64. Coleman--YOU are out of context!

[LeftNYC]

69. hahahah! nt

[stop the bleeding]

71. where do you find these?? LOL

[berner59]

72. I don't think you want to piss Brownie off...

Spill it Brownie...spill it!!!

[stop the bleeding]

57. Rethug trying to throw Brown under - whoa Brownie is fired up n/t

[Catchawave]

75. bringing up WE SAW PEOPLE SUFFERING on TV !

[Norquist Nemesis]

93. Interesting change, isn't it?

He (Brownie) responded that way to Democrats not too long ago while the Cons smiled and patted him on the back. Now that the tables have turned and the Cons are attacking someone that could harm Dear Leader, well...I just want to know if Karl met with the Cons before this morning's hearing.

[CornField]

60. "I'm frankly getting sick and tired of these emails being taken out

of context."

Whoa...

[malta blue]

63. He's sick and tired.

BWAhhhhhhh

[Twist_U_Up]

65. Whys Colemans hair so greasy ?

are those plugs ???

[Norquist Nemesis]

76. It oozes from his blood

Total slimeball.

[0007]

80. Got the greese from George Galloway.

[rodeodance]

84. well, brownie is attempting to say he has corrected himself before the

House on previous occassions.

[Twist_U_Up]

86. Coleman getting Gallowayed hahahahahaha

[pdxmom]

66. Gotta remember what Brownie is doing now. He's a "consultant"

for disaster response. He's gotta prove that he did a wonderful job and that it was all someone else's fault. He'll throw them all under the bus.

[Norquist Nemesis]

68. Well, at least this time Brownie's not letting the GOP slime him

:rofl:

Coleman's really trying to pin it on all but the WH. A "perfect storm of poor leadership...Governor (D), Mayor (D), and YOU (radioactive)"

[alcibiades_mystery]

74. OH my, WH pit bull Norm Coleman slamming Brown

The dynamic is quickly becoming clear. The GOPers on the panel will slam the hell out of Brown, Blanco, Nagin...anybody but Bush.

Can Chertoff be implicated?

[OKNancy]

85. Coleman is scum

He's trying to divert it over to the Governor and Mayor.

[AlCzervik]

DingDingDing! Coleman your mission is to cover Chimpoleons ass

got that?

[speedoo]

92. But Collins has not slimed Brown at all.

Let's see how this goes. We obviously know what Coleman is doing.

[madmark]

78. first rep after collins turns on brown; extra pissed about throwing bushco

under the bus on competence

[Greeby]

83. Coleman acting like a real senator?

:wow:

Edit - my bad, wasn't hearing properly

[LeftNYC]

88. He is trying to protect the White House and blame Brownie...

this is real interesting...

now he is going to blame local response...

[Lex]

91. Coleman is trying to shield BushCo from any criticism.

That's my take anyway.

[malaise]

108. Yep

it's all Brownie's fault

[rodeodance]

94. no, he tried to twist things (if you believe Brownie)--but Colman did not

pursue that line of questioning so i am wondering if colman did try a fast one.

[alcibiades_mystery]

95. If the job of a real senator is to protect Bush at all costs

then, yes.

[Maggie_May]

87. Brownie not going down alone

[LiberalAndProud]

90. Norm Coleman

we had almost perfect storm of poor leadership

q: my concern is e-mails & lack of responsiveness. your response: thanks for the update, anything I can do to tweak?

a: getting sick of emails taken out of context.

q: emails show lack of responsivness. i don't think it's out of context. it's stunning. you saying "we've just learned (CNN) catastrophic disaster continues to grow. just learned that today. you are saying structural problem. can you show me where you gave very clear directives to go balls to the wall?

a: absolutely. i mispoke on that day re that email. the convention ctr was not planned for including city & state. there are emails me asking for army. i'm not going to allow you to take email out of context.

[Sydnie]

If the army moves in there, the army kills people

is that what he just said?

[CornField]

103. Yes -- and he is correct

[ChiciB1]

96. Because Of EVERYTHING In The Past... Brownie Isn't Going

to actually be forthcoming in any comprehensive way. The Repuke Senators WILL come on strong for the WH. The WH didn't provide help because THEY have developed ANOTHER FUZZY strategy to CYA, or C.T.Aes.!! Repukes will grill Brownie for the sake of The Idiot, but after all is said and done.... talking heads WILL cover the story in FAVOR of the WH!!!

If they feared Brownie at all, THEY would have intervened. Beware, and don't get your hopes up, I'm certain they have covered their smelly ASSES!!!

No matter HOW sincere Brownie may seem, I cannot actually think that this will be a BIG coup for the Dems... we all know HOW they work each and EVERY time a finger gets pointed at them. However, I do wonder how they're going to weave the FEAR FACTOR into this fiasco! But I don't doubt that they will march "in step" to distance themselves in ANY WAY possible. Finger pointing is a MAJOR exercise practiced hourly with "the corrupt ones!"

[Wordie]

97. I'm recommending this just for the title! LOL...inspired, Viva! eom

[Maggie_May]

98. Listen to how great our Home Land Security is

[CornField]

99. Because the US Army -- the National Guard -- was having problems

getting those supplies into the Super Dome. You have to understand there were discussions of shootings and so-forth. If the Army had gone in, they would have been killing.

[rodeodance]

104. DHS is blaming Brownie for not ordering supplies for con. center. order

was given on Friday says coleman who is beliveing DHS.

[Arkansas Granny]

100. They immediately ordered supplies to the Convention Center

but they don't know if they were moved then. WTF!

[wtmusic]

101. NOW Brownie is doing a heckuva job! n/t

[stop the bleeding]

106. weird how things work out sometimes n/t

[Dunvegan]

102. Is Bernie Thompson (D) Ranking Member Committee Homeland Security There?

Any Dems from the committee?

Loretta Sanchez, Jane Harman, Sheila Jackson Lee, Kendrick Meek...any of them?

[The Witch]

105. It's a senate hearing I think

So no House members.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

107. THREAD 4 IS UP!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x379113

[Lex]

109. Locking. See Threa #4 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x379113


Thanks,
Lex
DU Moderator