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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:50 AM
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My biggest fear: If Clinton made oral sex "OK" for teens
Will Cheney have made "peppering" ok for RW hunters? By RW logic it would seem so. What's good for the goose is good for the, er, quail.

Sorry to add one more Cheney thread to the mix. :eyes:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:51 AM
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1. Hmmm... When I was a teen in the 70s, My oral sex was FAR more than OK!
And it's only gotten better!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:56 AM
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3. are you bragging?!?!
i'm shocked!

ok -- well maybe shocked is a little strong...
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:19 PM
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25. You betcha! I'm the best.
Ask ANYBODY!!!
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:16 AM
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11. The 70's eh? Back then we'd say we were going to the submarine races.
When I heard those idiots blaming Clinton for oral sex being done by teens I literally laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes. Didn't these RW nutcases ever get "lucky"? Maybe that's their biggest problem... they're incredibly jealous.;)
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:20 PM
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26. If they want a blowjob, they have to pay $250 for it.
That's their big issue. We Democrats have no trouble finding it for free.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:01 PM
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38. Hmm.. there may be something to that. When my husband was a Repub he was
hard up then he grew up, evolved into a Dem and met me. :D

Most Dem men and women I've known actually openly LIKE sex, don't mind talking about it too much if at all and usually are rather open and "adventurous". Most neo-con woman are uptight, consider that three letter "s" word a "bad word" and believe that God says "thou shalt not" enjoy sex and if you must for procreation it should only be done missionary in the dark with a person of the opposite sex that you're legally married to. In a way I feel rather sorry for them... they miss out on so much fun and joy.

At least Dems don't have to drug their wives & girlfriends to get a bit like Bush has to with Pickles. :puke:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:53 PM
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40. My sexworker friends tell me the Republican Convention is a gold mine.
In contrast, the Democratic Convention is much less business than, say, the Radiologists. The Democrats bring their own.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:58 PM
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41. It doesn't surprise me that the same hypocrits that want to keep your
friends occupation illegal and less safe would be their best customers.

As for Dems bringing their own... well heck yeah.. why bother with the rest when you already have the best... and it's freely exchanged as well. :)
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:47 PM
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35. The 70s
Yum :)
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:20 PM
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44. There was oral sex back in the 70s
but but but "they" told me Bill Clinton invented it.....

Ok so on a funny note a bunch of us were out one night not too long ago and got on this exact same topic and we were busting up talking about Bill Clinton's legacy and such you know Al Gore invented the internet and Bill Clinton invented the BJ....so one of the ladies actually said BJs were invented in the 80s apparntly she has been sheltered or has had a head injury. So we made the men in the group fess up what year they got their first BJ - well it sure wasn't the 80s - and one of the guys giving us the year of his first BJ is married to the woman who thought BJs were invented in the 80s - ok now I'm laughing so hard just remembering that conversation - thanks for this post because I needed a good laugh.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:50 PM
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47. If I made one person smile...
it was worth it!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:53 AM
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2. bush will make chronic lying and lawbreaking ok.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:00 AM
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6. Seems he already has.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:57 AM
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4. So ok, any repuke trolls want to go hunting with me?
I'll bring my elephant gun.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:26 AM
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14. I once shot an elephant in my pajamas . . .
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:58 AM
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5. And you know what's really awful?
This is turning from a Cheney thread into an oral sex thread. God, that's a sick visual! :puke:

;)
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:01 AM
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7. What's an oral sex thread? Some new kinda
spermicidal dental floss?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:19 AM
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13. Eeeewwwww! You're sick.
I like that in a person. :P
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:04 AM
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8. ha.
The idea that Clinton's indescretions made oral sex okay for teens is such a fallacy, and a weak argument. It discounts the influence of popular culture such as movies, music, and online communities.

It must feel totally unfair for Bill Clinton that his whole presidency is based on this one indescretion. They don't remember him as being a good President, just "that guy who had a blow job in the oval office." I think that's kind of sad, hurtful to him, and unfair. Just my opinion...
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:09 AM
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9. Well then is drunk driving OK?
How about running stop signs and killing your ex? The list can go on forever.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:42 AM
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16. I never said
what Clinton did was OK. I was simply saying that it's sad he's remembered primarily for that one mistake, and not for a good economy, jobs, etc.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:32 PM
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29. Well, do we really know if Pickles was drunk?
After all, Texas probably didn't do a blood-alcohol test back then either.

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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:37 PM
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30. Sorry I should have been more specific
"*" the boy wonder drove drunk. I don't know about pickles.

P.S. My smilies table is not working.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:44 PM
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33. Well, he's a drunk driver too
But if you're talking about mowing down your ex, then Pickles is the man...,uh, woman.

So many Republicans, so many crimes and cover-ups.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:11 AM
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10. Welcome to DU, Dr. Jones, and I share your sentiments!
:hi:
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:39 AM
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15. thanks!
for the warm welcome!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:18 AM
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12. very much agree
and by the same token I hope that Cheney is not recalled for just shooting a man in the face. I hope he is rmembered as the most corrupt, ruthless, heartless, and criminal VP to ever have been in office - and the only to have been impeached and imprisioned for treason.

Welcome to DU, Doc! :hi:
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:42 AM
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17. "Peppering" Another new word pulled from their nether regions
I have hunted and shot for many years and have never heard someone getting shot described as "getting a good peppering!".

It's just something they pulled out of their ass to try and make Cheney not look as stupid.

I've never "peppered" anybody, nor have I been "peppered" myself, nor would I call it "pepppering" if someone had shot me. Heck, I've only known one person who was even "peppered", he shot himself in the foot with a 20 gauge. Pretty nasty little "peppering" if I say so myself.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:46 AM
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19. I peppered my hard boiled egg
yesterday morning. Salted it too.
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:11 PM
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22. THE Dr Jones?
Stephen or Indiana? Either one would be way cool! :D
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:13 PM
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24. Welcome to DU Harald.
:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:12 PM
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23. Welcome to DU
"Dr." :hi:
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:39 PM
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31. Poor little egg!
How could you!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:44 AM
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18. Well considering my child asked me what "torture" was, I'll take the oral
sex question, thanks.

Clinton did not air his affair, THE RIGHT WING DID.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:49 AM
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20. I've heard speculation that Monica L
was a right-wing plant to play to Clinton's weaknesses. It makes some sense. I mean, why in the world would an intern perform a sexual act on the President, and then go blabbing it everywhere? It just seems contrived to me.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:08 PM
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21. Seems very contrived to me as well. I mean showing the President your
thong? And, later blabbing to your R/W partisan friend who happens to record everything you say? Also, saving the blue dress?

I dunno, seems all too convenient.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:26 PM
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28. Good point and an obvious one
that seems to be missed a lot.

I got so sick of hearing about Clinton making us hear about oral sex on the news. Poor kids.
I missed his own oral sex reports.
If little ken starr was half the professional Fitzgerald is there wouldn't be all the daily news leaks, there might not even be a case. starr made it a porn case. The details of it never had to come out to the public, never.

There was more outrage over Janet Jacksons breast then there is about war and torture.

I could easily tell children "Oh dear, her dress ripped, she must be embarrassed"
(Even easier then the ads in the same game, "Mom, what's erectile dysfunction?")

But the horror of war and torture can't be explained in any way that doesn't break their hearts.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:23 PM
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27. Well, it does happen all the time you know.
"Peppering" is just one of those things that come with the territory they'd have us believe. Keep in mind the folks who pay money to slaughter birds this way aren't hunters. They're RW idiots with guns. ;-)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:59 PM
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37. Ah yes, my hunter friends constantly wind up in hospital
with "pepper" wounds. :eyes:

And what could be more frightening? :scared: a RW idiot with a gun? :hide:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:41 PM
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32. Is stupidity now acceptable for teens?


With Shit-for-Brains as the role model?





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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:45 PM
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34. What is wrong with oral sex?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 12:57 PM
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36. not a thing, however
Many teens on surveys tend to report that oral sex "doesn't count." Because of that many don't use protection.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/briefs/sex/hb050404a.htm

Studies suggest that more teens engage in oral sex than intercourse, perceive it as less risky, and are less likely to use protection while doing it. Although with oral sex there's no risk of pregnancy, there is still a substantial risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease, including herpes, chlamydia, and even HIV. Now, researchers from the University of California–San Francisco report results of one of the first studies on teens' attitudes and behavior toward oral sex.

http://www.iwannaknow.org/
Every year 3 million teens--about 1 in 4 sexually active teens-get a Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD).1
Chlamydia is more common among teens than among older men and women.2
Teens have higher rates of gonorrhea than do sexually active men and women aged 20-44.3
Some studies show that up to 15% of sexually active teenage women are infected with the human papillomavirus (HPV), many with the type of HPV that is linked to cervical cancer.

thanks for asking. And, no, I don't blame Bill Clinton - I blame the Bush admin for reducing sex ed dollars and teaching the unlikely abstinence.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:50 PM
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39. As somebody who has done safer sex education...
I can attest that people are very unlikely to use barriers for oral sex, especially cunnilingus.

However, oral sex very inefficiently transmits most STDs, so the actual risk is fairly small in comparison with unprotected vaginal or anal sex. But not zero.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:42 PM
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46. I think it's illegal in some states?
:crazy:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:59 PM
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42. don't apologize... it's addictive.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:00 PM
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43. According to Hannity, "peppering" is normal and happens all the time.
And sometimes, the Vice President SHOOTS A MAN IN THE FACE. So what?
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:39 PM
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45. ClintOONS
Clinton smearing never stops:



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