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Wed Feb-15-06 11:33 AM
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Collins zapping Chertoff on Katrina hearings--cspan. Tune in if you can |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:34 AM
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1. we need an official thread for this important hearing. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:34 AM
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2. Collins is reciting the list of Failures as Chertoff gazes on. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 AM
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3. said talked of Why was Brown appointed when Chertoof knew his |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 AM
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Collins did good opening statement. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 AM
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4. Damn! So many scandals!!! I am going to switch from Cspan 2 (patriot act) |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:36 AM
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5. Leiberman saying it is the LAW that DHS will LEAD to keep people safe |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:37 AM
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6. love it that they are showing split screen of all the damage. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:37 AM
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7. they are asking WHY the Nat. Defense Plan was NOT put into effect |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:38 AM
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8. saying we knew this was the 'long feared levy break"--WE KNEW ye |
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yet you did not respond!! He is cracking it to Chertoff.
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:39 AM
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10. I am streaming online - is it Obey? |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:39 AM
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9. Collins is swearing Chertoff in. GRAND |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:40 AM
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11. Liebernam asked whey DHS was out to lunch (paraphasing) |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:41 AM
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:41 AM
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14. oops sorry, it is CNN. so sorry. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:42 AM
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17. OOOOOOOOOOOOhkay. I thought I had lost my mind. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:43 AM
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18. Cheroff NOT answering:Lieb. asked why he did not go down to Gulf |
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to set up command post earlier--like before the hurricane happened when we knew it was coming.
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:41 AM
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13. here it comes. canned responsed from C.--'unpresedented hurricane" |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:41 AM
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15. are we watching the same thing? |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:42 AM
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16. I found this on CNN but not cspan. Checked their site and it's not |
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listed on 1, 2 or 3. Where are you watching this?
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:43 AM
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20. I am watching CNN (sorry for confusion as i earlier said cpan) |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:43 AM
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They got something up they're sleeve. Will they bring up the ship that sat empty just offshore ?
Will they ask about trucks full of supplies that were turned away ?
Lets see if jerkoff makes another early departure.
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:44 AM
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21. Collins is not pleased with Chertoff response by the look on her face. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:45 AM
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22. guess the Nat. Response Plan did not work mr. chertoff! |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:46 AM
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23. Chertoff is a lot of 'managerial talk' charm. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:46 AM
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25. Chertoff saying he delagated his boys to go to Gulf Coast. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:49 AM
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28. Yet again, it's everybody elses fault, NOT ME!!!! |
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I'm no expert in any of this, and I depended on the others who are to handle it!!!!
BS BS BS BS BS
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:50 AM
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30. well, he is the manager you know. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:51 AM
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31. Yea, and a pi** poor one of those too! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:46 AM
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24. I want to hear the questions and see how Mike dances! I don't care |
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about his "prepared remarks"!
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:47 AM
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26. both Lieberman and Collins asked lots of pointed questions during their |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:48 AM
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27. well, I think he will just repeat his canned responses even for specific |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:49 AM
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29. chertoff basically reciting all the good things he did on Sunday. ugga |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:51 AM
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32. now he is whinning about how the big department was new and needed |
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lots of work to do when he came.
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:52 AM
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33. said he wants the American public to know that (got it folks?) |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:52 AM
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35. good gawd--get on with it Chertoff! |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:52 AM
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34. And he planned to make those changes beginning October 1st! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:54 AM
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36. goverment is slow to enact changes he wanted is what is saying. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:55 AM
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37. So will that same Pub who beat up on Brown do the same to Mike? |
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I can't remember his name, but it starts with a C and he kept telling Brown it was FAILED LEADERSHIP!
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:17 PM
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:56 AM
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38. How can you trust the judgment of a man who has a 'stache like that?! |
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And when you add in those eyebrows cut back to an inch each!!
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:57 AM
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39. a protestor is children and mothers ignored -was going to be removed |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:58 AM
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40. but Lieberman said he could stay if he was quiet. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:59 AM
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42. I see he is wearing a big button (others are also in the audiance) |
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:58 AM
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41. I'm glad Collins and Liberman said "You can stay if you wish!" |
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Somebody has to control those Capital Cops!
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:59 AM
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44. Chertoff: "astonishing" that brown deliberately bypassed him. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:03 PM
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48. He was still removed though wasn't he? |
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I thought it was nice they said he could stay but I wonder who has more authority? I also thought it was nice that Collins said he could speak with members of their staff if he wished, to see if they could help with something specific.
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Wed Feb-15-06 11:59 AM
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43. If I ever owned a funeral home, Michael Chertoff would be my choice |
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as a shill.
Seriously though, this is just a way for the White House to escape further blame. Chertoff is the fall guy now, cuz Brownie said so!
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:00 PM
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45. yes, someone on DU had a carniture of him: cryptooff |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:02 PM
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46. chertoff blaming Brown now--If he had known now about Browns agenda |
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he would have done something differently says Chertoff.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:03 PM
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47. Collins going after Chertoff--saying he was "disengaged" on TUESDAY |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:04 PM
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49. as an exp. she says C. goes to Atlanta for conference!! did not cancel |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:05 PM
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51. C. is beating around the bush-He does NOT recognize he was out of |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:07 PM
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55. Chertoff did not care, and still doesn't care. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:09 PM
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58. i think Collins is onto that! |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:04 PM
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50. It's on Cspan1 now! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:06 PM
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53. C. is ducking responsiblilty--He had not turned on the TV yet |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:06 PM
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54. Terrific! I just switched! CNN breaks in too often! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:06 PM
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52. He was let off the hook re: "Why did you hire Brownie?" |
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This is a fundamental question, and leads directly to the overall problem within the Bush administration of rampant cronyism. Why was this man, with virtually NO EXPERIENCE, placed in such a critical role. I don't remember Chertoff actually providing an answer.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:07 PM
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56. good gawd-He says he was concerned about 'NOT getting in operators |
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hair" down in the Coast. my gawd--what a lame excuse.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:08 PM
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57. I just can't believe what I am hearing. my gawd. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:10 PM
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59. Collins said ealier--you only had to turn on your TV to know what was |
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going on. yet C. just rags on and on
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:11 PM
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60. lieberman saying DHS is principle agency for domestic security |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:12 PM
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61. saying Fema was now under DHS--'your deferred to others" |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:14 PM
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62. lots of talk of how Chertoff accepts responsibility. All talk! |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:15 PM
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63. chertoff does not get it==Panal talks of being prepared and C. talks |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:16 PM
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64. Chertoff kepts saying he was aware and yet examples show his |
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head and body were elsewhere.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:17 PM
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66. Leiberman is actually doing a pretty good job listing all the things |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:18 PM
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69. yes, he is going good. |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:18 PM
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68. Oh jeez CNN just turned from the hearings to bush speech |
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Of course they went to it right as he was telling some lame ass joke about how Dublin ohio is not in europe and how his pilot is a dumbass.
Flip to CSPAN1 for real coverage.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:19 PM
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71. Switch to cspan1. They don't interrupt! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:19 PM
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70. ~~I qustion that e-motion!!!~~~ |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:21 PM
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72. Wonder if that Warner fella is there |
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To push for military takeovers in such events.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:29 PM
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73. yes he is...warner wants military to take over!! he is scum! n/t |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:29 PM
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74. "When I went to bed that night...!?!" |
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Guess he needed his beauty sleep. (:sarcasm:) Now I'm only one of the "little guys," but I was up most of the night worrying and watching the news before landfall.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:31 PM
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75. fire all the fuckers and bring back James Lee Witt!! these are all |
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fuckers that are setting this country up for marshall law!
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:33 PM
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77. it was a new plan and had never been used before...well fucker |
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your plan was a fucking disaster that killed 4000 people +
and what fucker did you do to the carreer fema people..you know you little fucker ....the ones who worked for fema when it worked!!!!!!!!!!
i hate these sob's..their plan was to put this nation into marshall law and destroy states rights...
that was and is their plan!
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:31 PM
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76. thanks, rodeodance! RECOMMEND this thread, everybody, so all DU |
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will know about this important hearing.
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80. ohhh noooo dayton!!!!!! turn over to military..national guard..nooooo!! |
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thats what these neo cons want......no Dayton!!!!!!!!!
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Over the top. Says maybe we just use the National Guard while we scrap FEMA. Then rework Fema to something that works.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:39 PM
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79. Wow, this is a great hearing...thanks rodeo for starting a thread! |
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:48 PM
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82. Chertoff dances around and fails to answer questions about Halliburton... |
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...being given all the contracts after Katrina and failing to perform under the contracts.
Chertoff talks - blah, blah, blah, blah - says nothing and answers no questions. Total stonewall.
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:49 PM
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83. UH OH! Here's Coleman! Wonder if he'll treat C like he treated |
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Will he rip Chertoff like he did Brownie?
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Wed Feb-15-06 12:51 PM
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85. Coleman up now...asking about Brownies contention that |
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FEMA was bound to fail, due to structural problems and how he said that FEMA should be taken out from under DHS.
Chertoff answering with just a few isolated examples of how DHS responded.
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86. Mobile homes was a bad idea. We will make sure they're stored properly, |
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and use them for other purposes. WHAT!!!!!!
What in the hell are they going to use that many mobile homes for?????
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Wed Feb-15-06 01:13 PM
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87. Chertoff is a slippery one, isn't he? I hope that the Dems follow up on |
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some of these wiggly answers.
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Wed Feb-15-06 01:19 PM
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89. Bennett of Utah is being awfully kind to C, isn't he? |
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Said he thinks after his baptism by fire in this job, there's probably nobody else on the planet better suited to do it!
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Wed Feb-15-06 01:17 PM
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88. It's getting about time to start a new, and official, thread. |
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Check your inbox, rodeodance. I kinda set one up for you...
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Wed Feb-15-06 01:20 PM
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90. I agree. Just let us know where it is. |
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91. I'm checking with Viva, to see if she wants to. |
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If not, I'll give it a try...it may take a minute or two...
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***OFFICIAL Katrina Hearings: Chertoff testimony Thread, Part 2*** http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x429588Please recommend it so everyone will see it...
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