Chuck Schumer - BLEH! And double BLEH!

[TacticalPeek]

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060215/NEWS01/602150385/-1/CINCI

"It was impressive, awesome," Hackett said. "These guys even had their wives call my wife, Suzi. They wanted me bad. It was like waving crack in front of an addict."

After first saying he would not run, Brown entered the race. Hackett said he believes Reid continued to support his candidacy, but said Schumer backed Brown.

He accused the New York senator and other Democratic elected officials of calling potential campaign donors and asking them not to give to the Hackett campaign.

"I know there were calls to potential donors; people told me," Hackett said. "But that's OK. This is a big boy's game. I'm not crying in my soup over it."

With Brown holding a massive edge over him in fundraising, Hackett said he concluded it was not worth the effort.

"I'm a team player; I'm a good-humored guy; I can take it," Hackett said. "But why should I bang my head against the wall, sacrifice my staff, put myself and my family through all of this? I couldn't change the reality."



:grr:

[Divine Discontent]

1. chucky better not run for pres... he won't get my vote

[Kahuna]

8. Chucky run for prez???

:rofl:

[Renew Deal]

10. He won't.

I love my Senator. Schumer is a great guy. I don't think he wants to be president.

[Catrina]

21. Yes, he does want to run for president. He planned on running for NY

governor but Elliot Spitzer is running and he is very popular in NY so Chuck has set about backstabbing him also, here on LI.

He is said to be 'very ambitious' and wants to run for president probably in 2008, but he will have to wait and see if Hillary runs. The party would support Hillary, I think ~ he's my Senator also, and I despise him now. I would not support him for anything at this point ~ I have never once received a response from him and have given up even trying. Hillary is a much better Senator and surprisingly, even Republicans are saying that in NY. She does respond to her constituents and especially to veterans.

His backstabbing of decent Democrats in three states now, will probably seriously affect his presidential ambitions ~ and he's planning on doing it in more states, according to what I read.

Watch out for Chuck Schumer in your states. He intends to choose your candidates for you ~ as he has done in Ohio and in Pennsylvania ~

[panader0]

2. What was the name of the *hole who ran against Obama?

He had some kind of dual residency. Isn't there a way for Hackett to run for the senate from a different state. Look at Hillary, all you have to do is buy a house and you're a resident. No?

[Sydnie]

18. Alan Keyes

Was a resident of Maryland until they convinced him to move to run against Obama.

He had no chance in hell of beating him. He just whores where they tell him to.

[jzola]

3. Hackett sure sounded like he was crying in his soup to me

I think he's a sore loser and now I'm sorry I sent him money. Brown has very progressive credentials and is supported in the community by people I trust. We really know nothing about Hackett or how he would vote in the senate. The people of Ohio seem to prefer Brown. That's the real message---that's why he's getting the money and Hackett's funding dried up.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

4. Pretty Impressive First Post Jzola

How long did it take you to think that one up? Go somewhere else if you want to bash Hackett. You won't find too many takers here.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

26. That's funny, I'll take it.

[LynneSin]

33. I hate to say it but Brown was way more progressive than Hackett

simply being anti-war does NOT make you a progressive/liberal. John Murtha is anti-war and one of the most conservative democrats in the house with most other issues.

Brown not only opposed the war from the absolute start but the same with the Patriot Act. Brown has also fought hard when it comes to choice, civil rights and the environment. Brown has been one of the biggest advocates against these free-trade pacts leading the fight to try and defeat CAFTA.

I was sent a link about what Hackett had to say about illegal immigration and it matched alongside what I would expect right-wing extremists to say.

So the guy, even for his very first post, has a very valid point - without a doubt Brown was the liberal in the group.

[Pithy Cherub]

5. You might want to see how much of that was cash on hand

and how much was recent before you get to high in the righteousness saddle.
First post huh, interesting.

Oh well, welcome to DU. :hi:

[mod mom]

7. The people didn't speak, the corporate $ did. This is what needs to change

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

27. You're right, indirectly.

Except that Brown is FAR AND AWAY more liberal than Hackett. I guarantee you corporations would've loved having Hackett as the Democratic nominee instead of Brown.

The problem with corporate money is that DeWine has way too much of it, and having a primary would be the easiest way for us to kill ourselves before we could even take on our real opponent.

[MrBenchley]

24. "You won't have Paul Hackett to kick around any more"

Deport 'em all Paul made one of the most graceless exit since Nixon in 1962.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

28. Welcome to DU!!!

Unlike the others, mine is a genuine welcome. :toast: :yourock:

[Douglas Carpenter]

6. Sherrod Brown is a strong outspoken progressive

Brown Tops DeWine in New Poll
An Opinion Consultants poll finds Ohio voters favor Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) for the U.S. Senate over incumbent Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH), 43% to 38%

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/01/26/brown_tops_dewine_in_new_poll.html

Sherrod Brown is endorsed by PDA (Progressive Democrats of America) and is an outspoken member of the Progressive Caucus.

Representative Brown is at least as liberal as Sen. Kennedy or Sen. Feingold

courtesy of vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=H3141103&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=12&go.y=8


2006 In 2006 Citizens for Global Solutions gave Representative Brown a rating of A.

2005 In 2005 Citizens for Global Solutions gave Representative Brown a rating of A.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Council on American-Islamic Relations 100 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Peace Action 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 84 percent in 2003-2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 96 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 50 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Council of La Raza 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 77 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 90 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Education Association 89 percent in 2003-2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Postal Workers Union 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 88 percent of the time.

2004 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Communications Workers of America 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 95 percent in 2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 94 percent in 2003-2004.

2004 In 2004 National Organization for Women endorsed Representative Brown.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.

[Greyhound]

9. Blah, blah, blah, I have not read once in any of these threads that

anybody is dissing Brown, other than to say he will lose the race. It is about the abuse of power that was used to thwart the winning campaign of a decent man. Face it, they screwed the pooch on this one and we will pay the price.

[FreedomAngel82]

17. So why do the polls say other wise?

:eyes:

[Douglas Carpenter]

19. indeed they do

Brown Tops DeWine in New Poll
An Opinion Consultants poll finds Ohio voters favor Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) for the U.S. Senate over incumbent Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH), 43% to 38%

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/01/26/brown_tops_dewine_in_new_poll.html

[insane_cratic_gal]

37. How do you dispute this poll?

taken in Jan. Hackett match up Had him at 41.9 Dewine 35

Against Brown 41.3 Dewine 37



http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash05a.html?project=elections06-ft&h=495&w=778&hasAd=1&mod=blogs


I wonder if that is why the pressure started coming in from the "leadership"

Do we think Brown's going to pickup that .6 gap?

[Greyhound]

22. You man like the one's that say * is doing a good job?

Look, I hope I'm wrong. My opinion is based on talking to people that live there (Ohio) and what the majority of DUers that live there have said. They all concur that Brown wins in the Urban areas but loses big in the sub/exurbs and rural areas.
The bottom line is this hurts the Democratic Party with the sheeple.

[Adelante]

11. Please stop spamming threads

It's getting annoying. :hi: Thank you.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

29. It's not spamming if it's relevant.

:hi: Thank you!

[Douglas Carpenter]

34. thank you

[Adelante]

35. It is spamming if you post it over and over

Please don't make me alert on you :hi:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

40. Alert on me for what?

I haven't done a damn thing.

[MercutioATC]

15. ...and he played a part in the screwing of Hackett.

No thanks.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

30. So you're voting for DeWine instead of a real progressive?

Some liberal you are. :eyes:

[MercutioATC]

31. No, I'll hold my nose and vote for Brown (which I've always said).

[Adelante]

12. Can we stop burning Harry at the stake now?

"Hackett said he believes Reid continued to support his candidacy"

[TacticalPeek]

13. That was good news to me, if so.

And was one of the reasons I posted the OP.

[KittyWampus]

36. Actually, Hackett is just ASSUMING various actions were undertaken

by Schumer... and since these posts are starting to get on my nerves, I'm going to say

HACKETT IS PARANOID.

What PROOF do we have of any of this except Hackett's word?

At this point I think he's making some of this shit up, attributing stuff to Democrats that happened via GOP Elves or whatever they call themselves.

And the more these hypocritical pity-Hackett threads proliferate, the more I am ALMOST tempted to say Hackett is delusional.

[insane_cratic_gal]

38. Aren't we all paranoid?

If there wasn't so much backstabbing in politics perhaps there wouldn't be tinfoil hats, but given the state of our party.. I tend to believe him. To my eyes he's an honest guy, if he didn't have the funds or the will he would of said as much "Hey I can't make this work, I tried but I'm gracefully stepping out." I think he has done that, stepped out gracefully. He never said who the "leadership" was ... we've drawn our own conclusions. He could of oughted them .. In fact I wrote demanding to know!

<Snip>


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Chuck Schumer, chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), both of whom encouraged him to run for the seat of Ohio’s senior senator, Republican Mike DeWine, in ’06. Hackett said he would—after been told by Ohio Congressman Sherrod Brown that he wasn't’t planning to run—and on October 3 he publicly threw his hat in the ring.

Then, last week, his phone rang again. It was Sherrod Brown calling to tell Hackett he’d changed his mind: he was running after all. Then Schumer called, and this time he wasn't’t delivering a pep talk. Hackett got the distinct sense that he was being asked to make way for the party insider. “Schumer didn't’t tell me anything definitive,” he says. “But I’m not a dumb ass, and I know what he wanted me to do.”


I hope the the "leadership" was correct in their assumptions and Brown can take Ohio for the sake of the seat and the party, but I have my doubts he win over the areas that gave Hackett that .6 lead among more then just "democratic poller(s)"

[BuyingThyme]

14. So, Schumer's not only a dim bulb, but corrupt too?

Fuck you, Schumer.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. If he's not crying why is he taking his ball and going home?

Why doesn't he run for the House? He isn't much of a team player than is he?

[insane_cratic_gal]

39. Because he promised he wouldn't be

a career politician and wouldn't run against a seat that was taken?

Also why did Brown say he wouldn't run and yet 1 week later decided to jump in the race?

Let me guess "Why did he say he was in it for the long haul then ran away."

I usually agree with you Freedomangel.. but today we are on opposite sides of the fence on this one issue. I'm very sorry that has happened, but you must understand why people feel angry that choices were made for them?

I have nothing against Brown, but it really does look like leadership made a choice to pull the money to one candidate.

I guess what we need from Hackett is a admittance that he left based on primary polls with a 20 point gap. Otherwise we stand on the opposite side of the fence throwing trash at one another. That is shocking to me, that so many would not see that democracy was undermined and deterred by those who claim to represent us. It just makes me very sad and angry.

[OneBlueSky]

20. Chuck Schumer -- my senator -- is a dick . . .

he's always been a dick, and always will be a dick . . . even though I voted for him (because of the alternatives), I can't stand the SOB . . .

and I don't feel much better about my other senator, either . . .

[Ron Mexico]

32. The sad thing is that

I agree with everything you said and don't like either senator either, but now that I live in Virginia I'd actually love to have my NY representation back. :(

[MrBenchley]

23. Funniest line: "I'm a team player"

Puh-leaze! "Deport 'em all" Paul QUIT because he was a national laughing stock and his campaign was a dismal failure, and then he lashed out at everybody else for his shortcomings.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

25. Yeah, Paul, you really sound like you're not crying in your soup

and it also really sounds like you're taking one for the team too. :sarcasm: :eyes:

Fucking juvenile. I'm glad he's out.