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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:55 AM
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Paul Hackett should have fought to the very end..
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 10:59 AM by trumad
Fuck the good of the party.... Doesn't he know that it's killing the party to allow the heavy hands to continue to dominate the direction of the party. The dude should have said, Fuck off!

There's no other way to look at this--- He should have stayed--he should have fought--- and he would have prevailed.

Jesus--the guy could have been the Paul Revere of the Grassroots.



mhop
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:01 AM
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1. I agree......
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 11:04 AM by liberalnurse
Have you visited the Ohio Forum lately? OMG...there are some real Brown zealots in there that made yesterday a classic flame fest.

Here are the links:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=172x12214

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=172x12267
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:03 AM
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2. You save the people who want to be saved.
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 11:03 AM by Kagemusha
The people who don't want to be saved have a right to refuse help, either medical treatment or political treatment. You can't force it on anyone.

The party apparatus snuffed out a possible Hackett campaign. Hackett isn't Lazarus, and it's not fair for us to expect him to be Lazarus, Paul Revere or anything like that. He's Hackett, a good man who quit rather than cease to be a good man, rather than a good politician with the man buried in a dark hole. I know a lot of people online like this on DU, blogs etc. are political junkies, but do we have to love politics so much that we must hate a Hackett for not wanting to lead the Charge of the Light Brigade against entrenched democratic senate campaign committee machine guns and artillery? Obviously for some the answer is yes but, I still want to build up from good human beings, if that's possible. Perhaps it's not, but I guess I don't love politics enough to resent those who have the temerity to act like mere humans.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:13 AM
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4. Hackett was a victim
of political sabotage by the D.C good old boys. He did not just quit. A campaign such as the Senate Seat requires a team effort. The captains turned their back on Hackett for a weaker insider.

I don't think that was a wise choice in the long run. DeWine is an incumbent who needed a Hackett to run him out on a rail. Brown is a dishwater choice in my opinion. This act against Hackett has already weakened Brown with progressive Democrats west of Columbus, Ohio.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:11 AM
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3. Is he going to run for Congress?
There was something a few days ago. I think the party asked him to run against Jean Schmidt, again. I would like to see him do that.

The other question I have is whether Hackett is now supporting Brown's run for Senate.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:14 AM
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5. I don't think there is time to file.
I believe he has until 4PM today to file in Hamilton County.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:15 AM
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6. He promised candidates for that race he wouldn't run in it
and he stands by his word re: congressional district OH-02.

He has loudly stated he is supporting Brown's run for Senate. He has nothing against Brown. Brown ran. Running did not treat him like yesterday's trash in and of itself. It took Schumer for that.

And I agree with the above poster that Hackett didn't 'just quit' but I can only argue so many sides to any issue before tying myself in knots.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:18 AM
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7. Hackett did not say loudly
that he supports Brown. He will support the party thus support Brown. He gave the example that he would not go hunting with him.......
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:18 AM
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8. I tend to think that they should have just allowed a primary
because now I wonder if some of his supporters will not support the ticket in November. I'm sure in the end that Hackett will though.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:22 AM
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9. Ohio Democratic Primary voters didn't seem to want him.
Numbers and contributions don't lie. People voted with their pocketbooks...for Brown.

Hackett made his choice.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:51 AM
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12. No the figures don't lie
but why is it that the funds began to dwindle??????????????Well, the good old boys in D.C put out the word to the big donors to stop donating to Hackett. Primaries are funded by big donors as endorsement donors wait until after the Primaries. It's still early in the Primaries for money to be collected by grassroots.

The good old boys in D.C....Schummer and Reid squashed Hackett......that's why.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:23 AM
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10. And Howard Dean should form a third party...
Some people on DU have all the strategic genius of Ralph Nader.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:46 AM
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11. No kidding!
Sometimes we are just so Ghandi-ish
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