Developing>>>NSA expanded domestic surveillance w/o presidential directive

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NYT Wednesday: Just weeks after 9/11, the National Security Agency expanded its domestic surveillance powers, apparently without any specific presidential directive... Developing...

www.rawstory.com

[C_U_L8R]

1. This smells like

the White House trying to distance themselves.

First Bush/Rove smears the CIA .. now they turn on the NSA...
when are these folks gonna fight back... lord knows they could.

[bbinacan]

3. I think you're right. n/t

[Pithy Cherub]

4. The CIA are neophytes compared to the NSA.

The NSA is bigger, badder and most definitely bolder with resources the CIA can't conceive of in this lifetime. For argument's sake, lets say the NSA also "picked up" some NSC and presidential conversations - while he was overseas. Let's say the NSA has the goods, but will unleash them for maximum impact at time of their choosing and not traceable to the NSA. The NSA is not to be trifled with when it comes to information gathering. The top guy at NSA is also military.

Very interesting. :popcorn:

[HereSince1628]

13. It's the old plausible deniability play, but Bush already admitted it

so I think it is about 4 weeks late.

[TheGunslinger]

2. Yeah, the NSA is going to spy on Americans (w/o warrants) on their own.

Hey!


Anyone interested in a bridge? How about some oceanfront property?

[jsamuel]

5. too late, Bush already admitted he ordered them to do it

[carolinalady]

6. KKKKarl is slipping in his old age if he thinks he can make that

one fly. Does he think for a minute those guys won't sing like canaries if they think they are going to take the fall? And just what were they reviewing 35 times that they would not know something like that was happening? They would rather have the American people think they are incompetant (Katrina) than crooks I guess.

:eyes:

[Don Claybrook]

7. This says nothing of the VP

This story, if it comes out, doesn't seem to preclude the NSA expanding domestic surveillance without a VICE Presidential directive.

Just one of many possibilities.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. That was my first thought. CHENEY ordered it.

Yes indeed. They are in panic, cover-up mode.

[catnhatnh]

8. I CALL Horseshit...

No agency exceeds given guidelines on the bureaucratic basis that no one is EVER in trouble if they do less than the maximum,but that exceeding the maximum can fuck up a twenty year pension...and NO bureaucrat would do that....I am sure that SOMEONE from the current regime is pushing this-I am equally sure it is not true...

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9. Blurb....

NYT sources: Times plans new splash on NSA surveillance

RAW STORY


The New York Times' Eric Lichtblau is writing a major story that editors are considering for the front page of Wednesday's editions of the paper with new developments on the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance, RAW STORY can reveal.

Just weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, the National Security Agency expanded its domestic surveillance powers, apparently without any specific presidential directive, according to declassified documents released to the Times Tuesday.

The Times has drawn fire from both the right and left for their revelation that President Bush authorized the wiretapping of international phone calls made from within the United States. The paper held the story for a year, and withheld some information from their report at the request of the administration, agreeing that some of the facts might deleteriously affect the war on terror.


The Times story, released on the eve of the Patriot Act's reauthorization, may have singlehandedly blocked the controversial measure from being renewed.

DEVELOPING...

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. HOGWASH. without presidential directive, possibly, but what about

a VP directive. KKKRove is at it again...CHENEY too. Where the F*** is Cheney anyway? In his bunker hiding again?

[Roland99]

12. Doesn't Pelosi's declassified letter shoot that meme to shit?

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Pelosi_releases_declassified_letter_outling_NSA_0103.html