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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:52 AM
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Official March organizing thread#1
New DU poster Left of Center has asked why we don't organize a huge march on Washington. Personally, I believe it is one of the only ways we can bring enough pressure to affect change. I lived through the sixties, and saw the effect that the many large marches and demonstrations had.

Those who were in power resisted mightily and great turmoil erupted. But WE THE PEOPLE DID CAUSE CHANGE! Were it not for a couple of assassinations, the world would be much different now.

I have few resources, and am not experienced in organizing an event such as I am proposing, but people, it is TIME TO MARCH.

Why couldn't we have speakers such as George Clooney and Richard Dreyfuss. Why couldn't we have politicians who are committed to changing the corruption in Washington, such as Al Gore, Russ Feingold and Barack Obama? Why couldn't this be another Farm Aid for Americans of all stripes who want their country back?

People, we have GOT TO DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL. How better to demonstrate than a huge peaceful gathering/concert/demonstration at the Washington mall?

Please , let's just do it.

I desperately want my country back, as do all of you.

Who can help with this idea?

If not now, when?
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teriyaki jones Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:54 AM
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1. We can start by picking a date
maybe one that will coincide with already planned protest by smaller group?

I'm in!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:56 AM
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2. Welcome to DU Joe - Looks like you are the start of something
maybe it will be something BIG!

Just make sure it is done in a peaceful way, it exposes them when they arrest people.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:04 PM
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7. Thank you. Believe it or not, I've been here awhile.
I'm no strasnger to DU. Had well over a thousand posts under a different monniker. Got burned out, discourage, but now I am roaring back. We need EVERYBODY'S help.

This must be grassroots. I have ideas, but no organizational skills or contacts on these matters.

HELP,HELP! Let's get started. I'm thinking the month of May would be a good time, unless school might get in the way. But we need good weather. May might be a little to soon for organizational reasons. I don't know. Any ideas on the timing of such an event?
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:18 PM
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11. I have a friend named Joe Fields.

Is that an assumed moniker?
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:22 PM
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12. No. That is my real name.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:30 PM
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19. Did you ever do any field work for greenpeace?

Don't want to ask anything personal;....
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:57 AM
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3. R&K'd
I'm with ya.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:59 AM
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4. Let me add one suggestion, re: the date, etc.
Do this.

1) Pick a date for the "official" march.
2) When you advertise this date, also mention that the march will "re-occur" every week on the same day.

Example:

Official March will be on Saturday, April 1st, and will re-occur every Saturday afterwards.

This way, you can get the most people on the "official" day, but you can also repeat the march (in smaller numbers) every saturday afterwards indefinitely.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:01 PM
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5. There is already one planned!

A war based on lies
Spying, corruption and attacks on civil liberties
Katrina survivors abandoned by government

MARCH FOR PEACE,
JUSTICE AND DEMOCRACY

End the war in Iraq
Bring all our troops home now!

SATURDAY, APRIL 29, 2006
NEW YORK CITY

Unite for change - let's turn our country around!
The times are urgent and we must act.

Too much is too wrong in this country. We have a foreign policy that is foreign to our core values, and domestic policies wreaking havoc at home. It's time for a change.

INITIATING ORGANIZATIONS: United for Peace and Justice, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, National Organization for Women, Friends of the Earth, U.S. Labor Against the War, Climate Crisis Coalition, People's Hurricane Relief Fund, National Youth and Student Peace Coalition

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:07 PM
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9. I heard about this one--why New York? (Just curious--maybe we can
organize DU to get behind this one--anyone interested?)
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:13 PM
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10. Yes I am for it, and will make it, but...
WE NEED A MARCH ON OUR NATION'S CAPITOL. I want those in the White House to have to look at us.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:02 PM
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6. what if everyone who could just showed up in DC on july 4th?
and demanded our country back?
a million or so people encircling the white house and chanting might even make the news...

but then again- with the war with iran going on by then, security will probably be EXTRA-tight.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:05 PM
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8. Well, at least everyone is on the same page lol--but we're a little
scattered, eh?

I already made a thread just like this one last night, lol.

I am going to be working on this today so if anyone has any ideas, keep 'em comin'.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:24 PM
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13. Joe Fields, have you seen my idea?
The problem with big marches is they get no media coverage. The last huge one in DC was covered by c-span, and that's about it. There were 3 to 5 hundred thousand people there last fall but did you even know it happened?

Here's my idea. I think we could turn out many more people like this and get much more media coverage.

IMPEACHMENT! SETTING THE TERMS OF DEBATE


Our country has a few major problems. One party dominates all three branches of government and controls the mass media, particularly broadcast TV networks, cable TV networks, radio news, and the print media giants. The bush administration has moved far toward the totalitarian and militaristic as they pushed their corporatist agenda and have turned large corporate media into a propaganda arm of the Republicans. This makes problems hard to address because it makes problems hard to discuss in a public forum. There is no accountability in government or from the media.


Problems could be addressed if the base got organized enough to use the means at our disposal. We need to put out our own ubiquitous message --because that's the problem. Big Media is ubiquitous and we need to be also. We showed we could do it, to a great extent, in the Alito fight, but the nature of the battle had strict expiration of action dates. That was an organic grassroots driven fight that sprung up, moved and took hold. We need to organize and do long term planning to more effectively use the means at our disposal.

We need an organized sustained national campaign to create a national debate with the Repubs. We must make sure we set the terms of the debate. We don't need to win an issue; we need to exert an insistent and omnipresent voice that requires a national political and media response. And we need to do that for about six months, through the mid-term elections and longer. Any effective grassroots campaign on the left at this point needs to help get back majorities in the Congress. So we need to define essentially, the issue(s) of the election. I believe that issue is most broadly defined as accountability. Congress has failed to hold the executive accountable. So we have to hold congress accountable.

Imagine if we all backed one unified message and we all used the same theme flyer/poster, the same call-in talk radio "point," the same freeway blog, the same bumper sticker, the same on-the-streets campaign, the same "issue"? And we did it in a well thought out, sustained, and organized way?

There is one 500lb gorilla in the living room and that is Impeachment. If you think bush stole the election, or if you think bush LIHOPed MIHOPed or just plain blew 9/11 and lied about it, or if you think bush let a lot of black people drown while he vacationed, or if you believe bush lied us into a war, or if you believe bush and his cronies are a bunch of thieving scalawags, or if you believe the prescription drug bill was a pay to play deal, (also known as bribery and extortion to further corporatism) if you believe bush needs to be impeached for many more reasons, crimes and lies, you are probably in favor of Impeachment, you are probably on board.

Impeachment is the perfect issue because we can tie almost any other issue to Impeachment. Impeachment comes down to accountability which is what we as citizens have to demand. We have to hold our elected Representatives accountable. Impeachment is the only appropriate constitutional remedy to gross criminal activity by a president. We need to stand up for the rule of law, for the Constitution, for accountability, for Impeachment.

We certainly won't get bush impeached and convicted because it takes a, what, 3/4 vote of the Senate to convict and uphold the Impeachment from the house? So it’s a great issue because it has a great shelf life and it encompasses current and future issues that arise. Of course, in a just US, the Repubs would impeach, but politically they can’t do it. So it’s our moral fulcrum and lever on The Repo Congress. It just highlights the morals vacuum inherent in the Repubs.

The fact is, that even the opportunity to impeach in the house is at least a year away. In order to impeach in the house, we will need to win enough mid-term seats to take back the House, which is why now is the time to consider a fight that will really start about 3 months from now.

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An Impeachment campaign should also help train, educate and encourage citizen activism and the shouldering of civic responsibility by citizen. This will help going into the mid terms. The campaign should also continue to plan ahead toward organizing action on the ground via the net.


TACTICS
I am very interested in the challenge of turning interaction on the Internet into action on the ground.

So what tools do the left have at its disposal to control the debate (Impeach!) and to help the Dems get back the legislature?

Well, we have the Internet, the call-in shows, (anybody check out the right wing activists on all the call-in shows about Coretta Scott King’s funeral? They were on the lefty shows in force) LTTE, telephone, bumper stickers, freeway blogging, postering/flyering, demonstrations, lobbying, celebrity leftists on TV and in print,

Another resource is lots of various civic organizations, as well as associations, such as environmental, civil rights, educational, political groups, interest groups, etc.


PLAN

Phase 1 A week or 10 days before the planned March on DC, at the end of April, we launch a media buzz: A sustained and organized effort to put Impeachment out there through LTTE, Radio, Hard Copy Blogging and the Internet.

The message is IMPEACH!
We do that for a couple of weeks.

Phase 2 Move to electronic lobbying campaign primarily directed at Republicans in Congress and the larger media. We do an Alito here, but we primarily target our own Republicans and our targeted Republicans based on the mid term elections map. We raise a stink about accountability and IMPEACHMENT! We use our peoples media to shout CALL/WRITE your Representative and demand Impeachment, demand accountability from your Rep. (This is the point the Alito campaign got to when the cloture vote rendered it moot.)

Phase 3 This starts sometime soon after spring graduation. This is the mobilization phase:


NATIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY DAY(s) or NAD(s) -- 3 days of Democracy

It would take about a minimum of 25,000 people participating nationwide to pull off my idea, but the more the better. While that’s a formidable number, its small compared to the # that have shown up at marches, for instance. And the relatively local nature of going to local US Senator’s or US Congressman’s field office makes for easier participation by a lot more people.

We line up at least one hundred people in front of five Republican US Senate or Congressional offices in each state, and people go in and lobby, preferably alone or in pairs. Fifteen minutes per lobby/staffer means 4 people an hour or 32 per day per staffer.

Every citizen lobbyist would take 2 messages to their Representative. One would be of their choosing or their coalition groups choosing, and the other would be Impeachment. We ask if the Rep will support Impeachment. If not why not? We target Repubs (on a mid term targeted basis) for our lobby day targets, and make sure local press covers the events (our bigger target) and then National Media --Our biggest target.

It would require 300 organizers (1 for 5 field offices per state + one state-wide organizer for a total of 6 per state), but it would be a great run up to the mid terms in terms of organizing, networking, energizing people, and giving people a good reason to vote in a Dem congress -- i.e. Impeachment, i.e. everything that’s wrong.

It could be a lot of fun. And it could very conceivably be a lot bigger than 25,000 people nationwide if we organized, because people could participate fairly locally.

Imagine! Home Town America with a long line of people lined up to talk to their Representative’s staffers about Impeachment and other issues would certainly get local coverage. And if it happened across America it would get National coverage.

The Repubs would have to be talking about, "Why not to impeach or why impeachment would be bad for the country."

Bloggers could blog from line, we get some celebrity lobbyists in line for media, we tie up Repo staffers for three days across America, and we could get lib talk show broadcasts from the line. We could make it an event, a street party, celebration of democracy and citizen lobbyists.

Phase 4
I haven’t looked that far ahead yet, but maybe Fall Impeachment Fairs? Direct lobbying of the media? An October Impeachment march on Congress?

Phase 5
Equate the Congressional and Senatorial votes with votes for accountability, with votes for Impeachment. Time for a change, time for voters to Impeach The Unaccountable Congress.


Arguments for this strategy and action plan

People are hungry to do something about the mess we find ourselves in. At the same time people are overwhelmed by the enormity of issues and how to address them. By focusing on one campaign that encompasses so many other interests, we can give people something meaningful and understandable to do. By having two issue Accountability Days we open the participation to everyone.

It doesn't matter if someone is for Impeachment or against Impeachment -- if you can get them talking about Impeachment you have already won. You have controlled the terms of the debate. Even arguments about the feasibility or practical desirability of Impeachment are irrelevant because Impeachment is politically impossible until sometime next year, and by then if it’s possible we will have won even if it’s decided it’s not practical or desirable.

This is something the Dems can’t really do themselves but it is something we can do.

The cost of not doing an organized campaign, including mass mobilization on a visible local level is unacceptable. We can’t leave it up to Clark, Ralph, Dean. Hillary, JFK, Obama, Cindy -- they have told us that already.

The left needs to be making demands on Republican Lawmakers. I know how I was during the Alito campaign, I called a lot more Dems than I did Republicans. I've been to my Dem Senators field office, but I've never been inside my Republican Congressman or Senator’s field office. We need to take the fight to them, we need to chat with their staff. Folks at home could be calling and writing the Reps asking them to meet with the lobbyists at a field office.

This issue focuses people on the House and the Senate while still keeping the heat on the prez.. It creates an opportunity to exploit fissures in the Repub party by squeezing Repubs between public pressure and the Prez.

While the media ignored the last big DC march, an action like a National Accountability Day(s) wouldn’t be anywhere near as susceptible to media blackout because it would be happening in everybody’s state and at offices and communities across the state. They are perfect for local TV, radio and print stories. The numbers are also verifiable in terms of nationwide turnout.

It would offer a huge umbrella to allow a number of existing interest groups to work together and hang out in line together, and it allows Independents to have access, too. Solidarity baby!

Everyone pretty well agrees that if the grassroots is going to have an impact we are going to have to take to the streets. This would be a good way to stick it to the petite fascists. We’d get ACLU members, Peace activists, Seniors, Families, Students, MMJ activists, Greens, Dems, Scientists, Unionists, Lefty Independents, Reasonable people, disgruntled old guard GOP, returned soldiers, everybody -- minus the bush base -- and we could take it right to the Repo staffers. Good media.

IDEAS FOR IMPLEMENTATION

Discussion and refinement.

We need a working group to brainstorm and undertake specific tasks.

A number of groups are already working on Impeachment as an issue. These people should be ready and natural allies. And they get how Impeachment ties to accountability as an issue.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:53 PM
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15. It took a little time to digest, but yes.
I'm not sure just what the most effective plan of action would be. I know that depends on the media.

In the sixties, there were demonstrations on scores of college campuses. Also there were huge marches on Washington. But you are right on two points for sure. It would have to be a long term plan for a series of protests, and the second point you made, that we need a single unified message is, I feel extremely important.

You have a working plan. Let's keep this kicked and talk. Flesh this out. Do you have any contacts?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:17 PM
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18. Yes, I would like to find a way to express my plan in a shorter and
simpler format, but it seems to require about what's there.

I was in high school during the late sixties and attended a number of large and small protest marches and events on the West Coast. The national and local media used to cover them pretty well, but that is no longer the case. I am in no way opposed to large marches but we need to adapt to the current situation. Even something like the personal economics of attending a mass march are much more difficult now then they were then. We need to think nationally and act locally.

It's funny, a couple of days after I posted my idea to the activist forum, I got this in my e-mail from a Democrats.com about a coalition effort which includes PDA and After Downing Street.

I like my idea better because it is more focused and it is local action on a national level, but this has a lot of elements of my idea, especially the organizing by Congressional District aspect. I have to run, but let's stay in touch.



In my E-mail


Thanks to your continuing support, we have upgraded Democrats.com to permit effective local organizing by Congressional District. And we're putting this new capability to work to Impeach Bush/Cheney and End the War in Iraq. We urgently need your help to succeed, so please sign up below and spread the word!
Bob Fertik
Nonviolent Peaceful Demonstrations In Front of Congress Members' Homes Every Weekend
Democrats.com, Progressive Democrats of America, After Downing Street, Gold Star Families for Peace, the Hip Hop Caucus, Democracy Rising, and Velvet Revolution, are organizing grassroots teams in all 435 Congressional Districts plus 5 Delegate Districts (DC, PR, VI, GU, and AS) to hold nonviolent peaceful demonstrations every weekend in front of the homes of Members of Congress.
Our Mission: to persuade each of our Representatives to support
1. Impeachment: Support John Conyers' Watergate-style investigation (H.Res. 635) of Bush's Iraq War lies - and immediately introduce Articles of Impeachment for Bush and Cheney
2. Getting Out of Iraq: Support John Murtha's bill to remove troops from Iraq (H.J. Res 73) and Jim McGovern's bill to end funding for the Iraq War (H.R. 4232)
The Problem: For a year, we have tried all of the traditional lobbying techniques including marches, petitions, emails, letters, calls, town hall forums, and even face-to-face meetings with our Representatives. Yet despite all this effort, not one Representative is willing to introduce Articles of Impeachment, while fewer than 30 have co-sponsored Rep. Conyers' Watergate-style investigation. On Iraq, John Murtha's bill has nearly 100 co-sponsors but not the 218 needed to force a floor vote; Jim McGovern's bill has fewer than 20 co-sponsors, even though George Bush just asked for $120 billion more for a war America does not support and cannot afford.
The Solution: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King faced far worse resistance from political leaders when they tried to end segregation in the South. So they took their movement to the streets and marched peacefully directly into the face of that resistance. We will take our inspiration from them, and bring our movement nonviolently and peacefully into the face of our resistance: the 435 Members of Congress who are supposed to represent us but refuse to do so. (We'll make an exception for the House Honor Roll - Members who support our three priority bills above. For those Members, we will focus on Member Meetings to persuade them to introduce Articles of Impeachment.)
Learn More and Volunteer:
You won't be part of this campaign unless you sign up here:
http://www.democrats.com/cd
_______________
More Ways That You Can Act Every Day to End the War
By David Swanson
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/7798
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:27 PM
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14. UFPJ is organizing a week of events all over the country March 15-22
3rd Anniversary of Iraq War

A Call for a Week of Local Action: March 15-22, 2006

March 19th will mark the third anniversary of a war that never should have happened -- a war based on lies that continues to devastate the lives of thousands, both in Iraq and the United States.

United for Peace and Justice joins our partners in the global antiwar movement in calling for a massive outpouring of opposition to the war in Iraq. We are urging opponents of the war to organize a wide array of events in their hometowns for the entire week surrounding this anniversary.


http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?list=type&type=96

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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:57 PM
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16. Will Pitt, are you listening?
What do you think? Who do you know? What are your thoughts on strategies for a series of small local demonstrations? Give us any help or advice that you can.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:02 PM
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17. Upcoming events in Washington DC:
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM by meganmonkey
This first one would be a great one to participate in. I have worked with this group and they do a wonderful job organizing and preparing.
http://unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?state=DC
March to the Pentagon
Monday, March 20th 2006 9 AM
The National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance is organizing a March to the Pentagon on Monday, March 20. It will begin with a 9 AM gathering at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, near Henry Bacon Dr. and Constitution Ave. The march with a coffin will begin at 10 AM and is entitled Stop the War Machine. NCNR is trying to attract marchers from various antiwar groups to represent a broad spectrum of communities around the country. The march is permitted, but some participants will risk arrest by trying to deliver the coffin to Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld. To register, call Max at 410-323-7200, ext. 31.




Washington, District of Columbia
Storm the White House Direct Action
Friday, March 17th 2006 12:00 pm
Join the Police Officers, the Military personnel, the Churches, the mothers, fathers and citizens who are going to take back the White House by Storm on March 17th, 2006. It is time for everyone to stop following orders of this Dictatorship!


Silent Vigil for Peace
Saturday, March 18th 2006 noon
Each Saturday at Noon, for one hour.
For over three years, Quakers and others have been vigiling silently for peace on the West Lawn of the Capitol in Washington. This is not a demonstration, or a protest. We stand in silent witness for peace for one hour each Saturday. On March 18th, please come join us as the third anniversary of the tragic War on Iraq passes. Please bring no signs or banners, but do bring yourselves, and your hopes for peace.
Look for the simple blue banner, "Seek Peace and Pursue It" Ps. 34:14.


March to the Pentagon
Monday, March 20th 2006 9 AM
The National Campaign for Nonviolent Resistance is organizing a March to the Pentagon on Monday, March 20. It will begin with a 9 AM gathering at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, near Henry Bacon Dr. and Constitution Ave. The march with a coffin will begin at 10 AM and is entitled Stop the War Machine. NCNR is trying to attract marchers from various antiwar groups to represent a broad spectrum of communities around the country. The march is permitted, but some participants will risk arrest by trying to deliver the coffin to Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld. To register, call Max at 410-323-7200, ext. 31.
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