Ok, SORRY for another Freeker post on ports, but THIS one is a must see

[Harper_is_Bush]

Very scary Re: Iran
He just might be correct

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582942/posts?q=1&&page=2051#2056

[Emit]

1. Well, he's wrong on this part

"the first being Iranian use of a nuclear device..."

There was a discussion some time ago here on DU concerning the Straits if Hormuz. Can't recall exactly what, but it did pertain to Iran-US and pending invasion/bombing of Iran.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Iran is at least 10 years away from having a nuclear bomb

I think that was brought up in the thread you mentioned.

[laheina]

12. Right.

They have no bomb, so we don't need to invade.
If we don't need to invade then we definitely don't need to sell pieces of our country to a foreign government to get them to cooperate with us strategically.

The argument is moot.

[Emit]

14. Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at too

That when he started out with that false premise about Iran using nukes, kinda makes his whole argument faulty. But, strategically, the discussion about the Strait in general is important (not necessarily this guy's take on it-I still have yet to read it in full) to point out -- if, in fact, Bush & Co. are considering an invasion.

[laheina]

16. True.

I didn't really realize the strategic value of their location, and it explains what some of the appeal of this arrangement might be for the neocons.

[mcctatas]

2. I guess chimpy wasn't kidding when he said "Ameriku is addicted to foreign

oil" I think if that is true, and it comes to light as a quid pro quo, the Kool-Aid drinkers might finally see that bush's balls aren't as big as his mouth.

[Erika]

3. Freeper's posts bore me

They have sold out our country by voting for W who could care less about U.S. citizens.

World corporatism is what W is all about. National security is not an issue to W unless corporatism profits.

[GregD]

4. did you see the post count on this mother?

first previous 1-50 ... 1,951-2,000, 2,001-2,050, 2,051-2,100, 2,101-2,123 next last

Their heads are exploding!

[Erika]

6. Coulter, Rush, Malkin have talked about the evil of Muslims

Malkin even defended locking them up in internment camps within this country. Then W turns over our ports, including two that ship out military equipment to our military, to Muslim control.

They are fools.

[Sydnie]

5. they do appear to have their own issues with Iran too

Disputes - international:
because the treaties have not been made public, the exact alignment of the boundary with Saudi Arabia is still unknown; boundary agreement was signed and ratified with Oman in 2003 for entire border, including Oman's Musandam Peninsula and Al Madhah enclaves, but contents of the agreement and maps showing the alignment have not been published; UAE engage in direct talks and solicit Arab League support to resolve disputes over Iran's occupation of Lesser and Greater Tunb Islands and Abu Musa Island

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ae.html - next to last entry on the page

[Flabbergasted]

7. Seems likely

[Harper_is_Bush]

10. Yes. I've been as puzzled as the freepers over this...but the theory

seems more than likely to me.

It seems like the only possible reason. Surely Bush is not THAT stupid that he didn't think defending this would be a tough row to hoe? No, he is not.
So, why else would they defend it?

[ToolTex]

8. Trust me didn't work with Harriet Meirs and it won't work on ports.

This is the worst since Meirs.

My god they think everything since Meirs is hunky dorey. The fools didn't notice NSA wiretaps, Katrina waste, Patriot II, Abu Ghraib pictures, Dumbsfield calling for Federal propaganda and media control, torture, Libby graymailing, Darth declassifying, Darth shooting people, etc. They truly are nuts. They deserve the government we are all have gotten.

[norml]

9. They've been using that "Needing allies for Iran Attack" excuse to cover

for every inexplicable bit of debasement to other countries or to the media that Dubya's been doing.

My theory is that he isn't extra special clever with some super secret happy if we only knew plan in mind.

My theory is that he, his administration, and the whole of the movement that calls itself conservative are just extra special shallow stupid dishonest evil
dolts.

[Emit]

13. Here's the article I read a while back

about Iran threatening to shut down the Straits of Hormuz and there was a brief thread here at DU about it.

I didn't read the whole thread you linked to over at freerepubic, but this might be what prompted where this poster's premise came from-- it being from NewsMax and all. I don't really recall reading about this threat from Iran anywhere else, though. Does anyone else?

Thursday, Jan. 26, 2006 9:24 a.m. EST
Iran: We'll Shut Down Straits of Hormuz

A senior Iranian official is threatening to close the Straits of Hormuz using military force, which would effectively shut down the Persian Gulf oil supply - if European supports economic sanctions against Iran in a bid to halt Tehran's nuclear program.

"If Europe does not act wisely with the Iranian nuclear portfolio and it is referred to the U.N. Security Council and economic or air travel restrictions are imposed unjustly, we have the power to halt oil supply to the last drop from the shores of the Persian Gulf via the Straits of Hormuz," said Mohammed-Nabi Rudaki, deputy chairman of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission.

According to the Israeli News service Haaretz, which first reported the threat on Tuesday based on an Iranian news account - this is the first time an Iranian official has publicly issued a military threat.

Twenty-five percent of the world's oil production passes through the Straits of Hormuz, which connects the Persian Gulf to the Indian Ocean. If Iran were to carry out such a threat, other big oil producers in the region, such as the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, would be unable to export oil. Raduki also warned that his country might resign its membership in the International Atomic Energy Agency and withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/26/92748.shtml?s=ic

[SeattleVet]

15. They really has them rattled, though.

It took them all the way to post #33 for anyone to mention Clinton!

In any other circumstances you could count on the mighty Clenis being mentioned within the first 10 posts or so. Something big is up, they haven't received talking points memos from the mother ship, and they are shook up by it. Watching them now is sort of like watching "Chicken Run" all over again!

[Justice Is Comin]

17. Yes and no matter how this turns out

the Republican base just got a lot smaller. This one won't be smoothied over with a little pat on the head by the goopers.

This is like training a cat to go in the toilet. Once the cat falls in, you ain't never getting him back up on that seat. The goopers just fell in.

[mia]

18. They're calling * "Dubai Dubya"! n/t

[CJCRANE]

19. Fantastic! nt