Why is Bush pushing Liquefied Natural Gas? That's no energy solution.

[Jara sang]

LNG is more expensive and harder to transport. All the marine terminals have to be retrofitted to receive LNG. I thought Bush was promoting alternative fuel sources. LNG is to oil as methadone is to heroin. Plus you come down a lot harder on LNG. With oil, production gradually slopes off until you run out, with LNG it's just gone one day, production just stops.

[LynnTheDem]

1. Because bush is a

really really really stupid ignorant MFing idiot?

Just a thought.

:D

[stepnw1f]

2. Next Bush Will Suggest We All Take Crystal Meth

so we can work day and night paying down the national debt he has put us in.

[converted_democrat]

6. OMG, that's funny...

:rofl:

[gasperc]

16. good one

[Katherine Brengle]

3. EW--They're trying to build an LNG terminal less than a mile from my

house--it's been an ongoing political battle for a year or more. LNG facilities are NOT safe to have in urban areas--they are easy targets for terra-ists and the like.

If the one they want to build up the road were to be attacked, the blast radius of the explosion would be over a mile--everything in that blast radius would simply disintigrate--at least that is the information that I have.

[rkc3]

7. it ties in nicely with a known terrorist supporting country managing

our East Coast ports. Funny how these things work out.

[madokie]

8. if tim mcv*igh could do with a rydertruck what he done in OKC

could you imagine one to those shipping containers

[rkc3]

9. And you need an entire freighter full of LNG to make the trip worth

the effort - which is a hell of lot bang than a rental truck could provide.

[Botany]

4. And what company could do this?

"All the marine terminals have to be retrofitted to receive LNG."

[DemInDistress]

5. Love that signpost....AT&T unfortunately is my company...sad

but this is still America and george w bush is a POS POTUS. and a M-U-R-D-E-R-E-R A THIEF AND A FOOL..

[LiberalEsto]

10. San Francisco is composting dog poop to make gas

by using methane digester devices, according to a news story yesterday.

I don't think the natural gas industry wants the average American to know that methane is the main component of natural gas. There are dairy barns in Europe that use manure to produce methane to produce heat and power.

Maybe we should be developing high-tech outhouses linked to methane digestors to produce our own natural gas instead of building a costly and risky LNG infrastructure. But that would deprive the energy industry of its profits, wouldn't it.

[Jara sang]

14. Sounds like Bartertown.

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[saltara]

12. LNG Opposition

Proposed LNG facilities and local opposition:

http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuclear/electricity/Oil_and_Gas/lng/articles.cfm?ID=13775

Gulf Coast LNG opposition protest, May 13, 2005:

http://www.saveourwetlands.org/protesting.htm

(This year Jazzfest in New Orleans has its first corporate sponsor - Shell)

[lpbk2713]

13. Obviously he has a big financial interest.

His past performance speaks for itself. He will do whatever benefits him personally over and above any other concerns.




Or .... he did it because Uncle Dick told him to.

[gasperc]

15. because he's a deranged stupid fuck

next stupid fucking question

[Lexingtonian]

17. it *is* simply more fossil fuel profiteering

A colleague of my dad was an undersecretary in the Department of Energy during the first term of Dubya. Formally, his responsibilities were in nuclear cleanup and research stuff. (Which he didn't really give a shit about at that point, to be candid.)

He resigned after two or three years and now spends all his time on speculating in natural gas and political lobbying for LNG terminals. Word is that natural gas markets are less regulated and under less gov't control than all the petroleum, and electricity is too dangerous to touch since California/Enron, so the Dallas energy gouging crowd is concentrating all its efforts on cornering and controlling and destabilizing natural gas supplies and its distribution system.

It's just evil coercion and manipulations intent on theft. An inch short of highway robbery.

[NickB79]

18. Because the North American continent is running out of NG

The US peaked for natural gas production years ago, and Canada has recently begun to produce less natural gas than in previous years. The only areas left to develop are either in the far northern tundra, or in the Gulf of Mexico. The tundra regions are hard to transport gas from, because they require pipelines to be built on the now-melting permafrost. Building multi-million dollar pipelines on an unstable foundation is a bad move. The Gulf is hard to develop because drilling rigs are very expensive and susceptible to hurricanes.

20% of our electricity is generated by NG, not to mention all the homes heated with it. Also, almost all chemical fertilizers that farmers use to boost yields are produced from it. It was stupid to allow ourselves to become so addicted to NG; your heroin analogy is spot on. But now, it will take at least a decade or more to replace what NG produces in electricity through new nuclear, coal, and wind energy production. In the meantimes, the we junkies need our fix.