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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:43 PM
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McCain/Lieberman ticket -
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 08:45 PM by FLDem5
I have been kicking this around for a couple weeks.

McCain briefly flirted with running on Kerry's ticket, according to reports. Personally, I think he liked seeing himself as the hero that could reach across party lines. The Gang of 14 likes its new moderate power.

McCain will not criticize this administration anymore and is Mr. Moderate
Lieberman will not criticize this administration anymore and is Mr. Moderate.

I have seem them setting themselves up as the answer to partisanship in America. Then I saw this today - maybe I am not crazy. What do you think - and are they beatable.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27263278.shtml

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Democrat Senator Joe Lieberman gave a quasi-endorsement for a John McCain (R-AZ) 2008 presidential run in Munich on Saturday. An Associated Press reports quotes Lieberman as saying, "…my presidential campaign days are over - I hope his aren't."

This shouldn't be a shock as the two are close friends and agree on many things.
So - would they consider running together? Here's how AP writer David Rising calls it:

The two seem like they might make a bipartisan dream team in the White House - should one change parties or both go independent - the suggestion was greeted only with a laugh.

"Every now and again we're asked that, and McCain always says we couldn't do it because each of us would want to be vice president," Lieberman told The Associated Press.

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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:44 PM
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1. McMann/Letterman
Better idea!
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:45 PM
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2. All I can say is
:puke:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:45 PM
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3. The idea is enough to make me vomit
:puke:

Both a couple of Bush whores. Sickening.

Julie
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:46 PM
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4. I agree - but do you see it happening too, and can we beat it?
Realistically?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:26 AM
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19. I think it's at least possible
I could see both of them running together.

Note - first I typed "I could see both of them doing it," but that vision was too much for me to handle.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 06:55 AM
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20. I don't see it happening
but I know there are folks out there who would think it was brilliant. Of course, there are people who actually believe McCain is a "maverick" and a "moderate" so we know some will believe anything.

Julie
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:49 PM
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5. A half million troops in Iraq in no time. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:50 PM
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6. Eeeeeeewwwwww nt.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:51 PM
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7. Seems like......

Governors win presidential elections - not Senators.

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:53 PM
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8. Certainly I don't want a republican president.
BUT he's better than Frist.

Not saying much, is it?

I will vote for a Democrat.

Frankly, I think they're both too egotistical to join together, or too beholden to whatever interests are funding them.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:54 PM
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9. Lieberman will have to switch parties
There are too many R's lining up for a Presidential run--I just can't see the GOP giving the nod to a freshly-minted Lieberman R to take up a slot on the ticket. McCain won't run as an independent. All the 'maverick' nonsense is just that: Nonsense. He made clear the extent to which he's his own man when he slobbered all over Chimpy during the 2004 campaign.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 06:58 AM
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21. He should anyway...
...it'd just be more accurate.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:57 PM
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10. Stop This McCain Junk
Just keep up the junk, he isn't going to run on a democratic ticket, but go ahead and give him enough steam to run and beat the democrat party...He is a nothing as Bush is, he went to college on tax payers money attended a military Academy, then came out bragging he finished next to last and wished he could have been last, now doesn't that sound mightily like Bush, he is a slacker, I commend him for his military duty, but nothing else. Be aware, he will take advantage of the publicity the democrats give him.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:59 PM
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11. I never saw McCain as becoming a Democrat
I saw Lieberman as either becoming and independant or joining the Republicans.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:01 PM
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15. But he's already got his campaign sign:
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:59 PM
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12. Funny
I was thinking about posting this very idea this morning.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:00 PM
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13. Great minds and all.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:10 PM
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16. Or maybe not so great, in this case.
LOL
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:00 PM
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14. Republocrats!
I could actually swallow that ticket with Joementum on the top of the ticket.
I would like to see a new political party formed of liberal republicans and "electable" dems.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:16 PM
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17. I am really amused
when Dems go on Sunday morning new shows and gush about McCain.

Lieberman, especially seems infatuated with him, though I saw Bayh talk about him like a little girl talking about some teen idol.

It makes sense because McCain is a popular politician, but it's kinda bizarre.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:28 PM
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18. Herman/Simmons
PeeWee/Richard that is
:hide: / :bounce:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 07:03 AM
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23. John McCain, Hypocrite
John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

McCain hypocrisy:


http://www.alternet.org/story/28266 /

The Bushification of John McCain

By Ari Melber, AlterNet. Posted November 15, 2005.

The bad blood between the two men has been infamous since 2000, when Bush's campaign lied about McCain's family and war service, and McCain told Bush to "get out of the gutter."

But during Bush's reelection in 2004, McCain strained to embrace his former rival -- literally. In their first joint appearance, they hugged dramatically before 6,000 soldiers at a Fort Lewis rally. Those events made for great campaign visuals. Yet while most Americans saw McCain's big heart, Republican leaders saw hungry ambition.

Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative magazine National Review, recently described that campaign bear hug as nothing but proof of "the senator's presidential ambitions." Lowry argues it's just part of McCain's scheme to get "the Right to stop loathing him." In targeted moves since the election, McCain has continued his Bushification by changing positions on conservative priorities like creationism, gay marriage and tax cuts.

As the costs of Hurricane Katrina mounted, McCain went on national television and told Chris Mathews the Bush tax cuts must be maintained. But McCain voted against those tax cuts.

In fact, he was one of only two Republicans to oppose Bush's signature 2001 tax cut. Given the surging costs of Katrina, Iraq and Medicare, there is no policy rationale for reversing his position now. The only rationale is political pandering. And that's exactly how some influential conservatives see it. Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, recently said that although McCain has "flip-flopped on a number of issues," he is still "anti-taxpayer" because "he's voted against every tax cut."

Yet the mainstream media is so attached to McCain's maverick image, most journalists didn't cover the tax reversal.


http://www.alternet.org/story/28266 /






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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 06:59 AM
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22. They represent the big, squashy middle where
the status quo is god.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 08:15 AM
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24. Lieberman will NEVER run with McCain as a repub.
Lieberman will NEVER support McCain as a repub. Lieberman is a democrat and has said he will support any democratic candidate. As an example Chris Shays is supporting Lieberman, but Lieberman is supporting Shays opponent, Diane Farrell.

Sorry, this will never happen.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:26 AM
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25. He seemed to support him in the article I linked in the OP
I'm just sayin' - his behavior of late makes these ponderings possible.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:38 AM
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26. you'd have to be braindead if
you fell for that old uniter bit again
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:40 AM
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27. I'd rather put my fingers in the blender than vote for either of them.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:01 AM
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28. Which party?
:silly: :freak: :wtf: :puke:
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