Please tell me if I'm being supersensitive here...

[MsKandice01]

I was having a discussion on another board last night about the latest video of Bush being briefed on Katrina and, of course, some Bushbot decides to bring up Mayor Nagin. She called him a "psychotic crackwhore". Okay, you want to call him psychotic, that's your opinion, but a crackwhore?? Am I completely off base to think that there might be a hint of racism in that comment?

[VelmaD]

1. you are not being supersensitive...

that was coded racism

[Beelzebud]

2. A hint of racism? Do people call white office holders crackheads?

I'd say that was some blatantly racist shit..

[Warpy]

20. No, we call them stupid, corrupt and/or delusional

and now we can add "haters" to that description.

[pocket]

23. I do. I've seen it on here, too.

Generally against the chimpster.

[Quantess]

43. there's a slight difference

in calling someone a "crackhead" who has definitely had a cocaine problem, versus calling someone a "crackhead" apparently just because of their skin color.

[underpants]

3. Yes you are completely off base

their is no "hint" involved it is racism.

[LaurenG]

15. I agree

Crackwhore is not used racially as far as I know.

[LostinVA]

21. Agreed -- no "hint" at all

[MrSlayer]

4. Crackwhore is universal.

No racial element to it.

[IsItJustMe]

13. Yeah right, how come I never hear the phrase methwhore?

[BushOut06]

18. I hear "crackwhore" used all the time to describe all people of all races

Although I think when it's applied to Nagin, I think that person is using it in a racist sense. Now if it were applied to Marion Barry, that would *not* be racist.

[MrSlayer]

30. Because you never hear methwhore means crackwhore is racist?

Ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous. The idea that only black people smoke crack is racist. The terms crackwhore and crackhead are racially neutral.

[MsKandice01]

31. No one is saying that only black people smoke crack...

But it's a common misconception that crack is considered to be a "black drug". That's not correct but it's the way it's portrayed and, depending on where you live, that's all you see in the media. The reason it rubbed me the wrong way is because I can't think of any other reason there is to call him a crackwhore. What does he have in common with a crackwhore?

[MrSlayer]

44. Maybe you're taking it too literally.

It's just an insult that means he's whacked out. I'm sure the person, no matter how much derision they may have for Nagin, doesn't actually think he prostitutes himself for crack.

[blm]

5. George W Bush has had more experience with coke and crack than Nagin

and just about any lawmaker in office today. Bush probably could give Marion Barry a run for the title.

I am also confident that Bush1 has run more serious drugs for longer than anything you've seen from the Mafia, La Familia, or any drug kingpin.

[JuniperLea]

6. Freaks are that way

I'm sure you would have been trampled on heavily if you'd called Bush a coke whore, which is probably closer to the truth.

It's clear the BushBots are trapped in a corner on many current issues. All they can do is stoop to schoolyard behavior and start calling names. That's all they have.

[radwriter0555]

7. I still can't figure out why people were offended when he said NO was

the Chocolate City.... so yes, they're being racist when they call him a crack whore...

Meth is to whites, crack is to blacks. Coke is to whites, crack is to blacks. Heroin is to blacks too... that's how they think.

[Serenades]

19. Outrage over nothing

It was outrage about nothing. If people were more familiar with more blacks then they would know that Atlanta, Detriot, No, etc. are all Chocolate Cities because lots of blacks live there!!!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

8. I would have shot back and said Bush is one.

[ThomCat]

9. Whether or not racism was behind it

(and I think it was racist) it's absolutely uncalled for. What has Nagin done to warrant being described as anything even remotely like a crackwhore?

[IsItJustMe]

10. yes, it's a derogatory back door way of using racism to put someone down.

Repukes do it all of time.

Even the media types like O'Riely and Tucker constantly do it. That's why I don't watch them. I don't want to be a part of such jacked up conversations because I am worried about what that says about me.

[Maggie_May]

11. The Bushbot has it wrong

Bush is a coke head and a drunk. He was to busy getting drunk and party on vacation to prepare for a hurricane.

[Marie26]

12. A hint? nt

[NMDemDist2]

14. racist or not, remind the Bushbots that Nagin was a Repuke until he

figured out the only way he'd win in NOLA was to switch parties! He endorsed the Repuke Gubernatorial candidate for LA and IIRC Bushie as well.

Tell your bushbot to put that in his pipe and smoke it! :smoke:

[Serenades]

17. Have you noticed

Have you notice how the media portrays him as a "flaming incompetent liberal?"

[Serenades]

16. It's clear

As a black man in the reddest town in America, I have to say that this is pure racism that is in your fucking face. However, the speaker used a coded phrase in which to do it. But the fact remains that it is a racist comment. These people associate blacks with crackwhores and drug addicts. These pukebots honestly believe on blacks sell drugs and use them for the most part. They believe Nagin is 95% at fault for NO with that liberal governor taking the other 5%. You will find more prejudice comments from people the closer you listen to them -- maybe even from friends.

[MadMaddie]

You are absolutely correct...

it is racism....

It is the same racism used during the 1980's when crack cocaine hit the streets...

Do you remember all you saw on the news were black faces, black neighborhoods, blacks being arrested by the police...

What you didn't see were the white cocaine users...there was rampant cocaine use among whites at the time.....lots of abuse and overdoses....

The media has played a hand in this racist perception....Meth use is huge right now in rural white areas in the country and also pain killers oxycontin....the media portrays these users as down on their luck and suffering from their affliction....

When they refer to black drug use they are referred to as criminal..

Just another day in * AmeriKa!

[IsItJustMe]

22. Your question tells me that you have never been around the block.

And if you don't know what that means, I can't help you.

Wise up kiddo.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

24. Seems like you're the racist here.

How you managed to connect "crackwhore" with being black, I'll never know. Care to explain?

[MsKandice01]

25. Ummm...I'm black!

Can you please explain how that makes me a racist?

[SeveneightyWhoa]

28. Sorry, didn't know that.

I'd have to say, then, that yes, you are being supersensitive. I don't see how "crackwhore" refers to any specific race. In fact, when I hear the word, I think of white people (ie. "white trash").

[MsKandice01]

29. Well, I guess being from Los Angeles...

And seeing how crack has ravaged the inner city, I associate it differently.

[IsItJustMe]

37. Have a nice day

There are much more important issues to worry about. How about the survival of planet for one?

[SeveneightyWhoa]

47. Are you responding to me in particular? n/t

[progressivebydesign]

26. "crackwhore"???

That's pretty race-neutral. Everyone one of the people I've called 'crackwhore' have been white.

[triguy46]

27. Oh no, in OK, crackwhores come in all colors n/t

[Ksec]

32. IMO crackwhore isnt racist

Because there are lots of white crackwhores .

It was an inappropriate insult of Nagin, but I dont think crackwhore is synonomous with black people. I suppose if you did think that you would be racist to imply only black people have crack addiction.

[MsKandice01]

33. Once again, I am black myself...

[Ksec]

34. and?

[MsKandice01]

35. So now I'm racist against my own race?

[Ksec]

38. I didnt say that

That type of stereotype could be construed as racist . To think crack is synonomous with black people is incorrect. Crack infects all people regardless of skin color.. I would bet there are more white people suffering with crack addiction than the other way around. No I wasnt impying you are racist, my apologies if my post came off like that.

[MsKandice01]

39. Oh I understand that...

But I also think that people are blind if they don't realize that crack is portrayed as a "black drug", even if that isn't the case.

[Ksec]

40. Maybe in the mind of a freeper ,

thats true. I forgot who we were dealing with for a moment.

[IsItJustMe]

41. I think it's called messing with your head.

Up is down. Down is up. Hmmmm I've seen this before.

[Bluerthanblue]

36. No- you are actually LISTENING to the

shit that is being passed off as 'acceptable' slanderous garbage these days.
Just remember- and this is really important- Most of the time when the high profile Dems have spoken out of turn- or have injured people with their words unintentionally, THEY (we) have gone on to apologize for the HARM done- Durbin for one, - He didn't appologize for his beliefs, but rather his inadvertently harming others-

Compare that to Cheney who told a fellow politician to "go Fuck yourself"- and when asked about it on sunday morning tv not only didn't apologize for his crass garbage mind and mouth, but said he actually 'felt better having said it'- Course, we're talking about a man who shot his "friend" in the head- and then let the 'friend' apologize to the 'Cheney's' for all 'they were put through'-

People may see the Dems as 'wussies'- I see us as people who lose our tempers and get frickin frustrated at times, but have enough class to not cling to our dispicible attitudes-

That "bushbot" is simply living 'down' to the example of their be-loved??? leader. poor soul-

Nagan rode out the storm in NOLA- and yeah he made mistakes- but he isn't president- NOR could he do ANYTHING more to help his city, except speak out as bluntly as possible to finally get heard-
I don't believe he's psychotic- And while his chocolate comments were somewhat 'off-the beaten track' in terms of how he phrased the truth- the truth still stands-

The only crack head in this mix is bush- and he's not even man enough to admit his failings even when they are exposed for all the world to see.

I'm offended WITH you- never stop listening to the hidden 'agenda's- It is our only real strength in the face of the opposition we are dealing with, and the power and money they have at their disposal-

Trust your 'gut'-

blu

[IsItJustMe]

45. You've said it all. That's truth. Thank You

[LizMoonstar]

42. where I come from, it's a race and gender neutral term.

however, i must add that i'm a young white suburban girl from the midwest, in case that has any bearing. i believe i consistently referred to Paris Hilton and her ex-fiance Paris Whatever as a pair of stupid spoiled crack whores.

[Bridget Burke]

46. I've known a couple of white crackheads....

But the term "crackwhore" does reek of racism; many folks have not moved in certain circles. The word "psychotic" is just idiotic--or projection.

The Bush-lovers love to point out that Nagin & Blanco may have made some bad decisions during & after Katrina. But their boy did NOTHING--even though we now know that he had been informed of the situation.

Defending the indefensible can cause heads to explode.