Kerry Unsure If He'll Support Censure

[sabra]

http://www.channelcincinnati.com/news/7965950/detail.html

Kerry Unsure If He'll Support Censure
Massachusetts Senator In Cincinnati To Meet With Mayor

CINCINNATI -- Sen. John Kerry said he'll need to take a closer look at a proposal to censure President George W. Bush before he decides whether to support it.

The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee from Massachusetts is in Cincinnati to meet with Mayor Mark Mallory and attend a roundtable discussion with small-business advocates.

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said Sunday he will introduce a resolution to censure Bush for authorizing domestic eavesdropping of suspected terrorists.

Kerry said that although he wants to hold Bush accountable for his actions, the proposal to censure the president needs more study.

[Mass]

1. Sounds just like what Kerry would say if he has not read the resolution

He said the same thing for Alito, for example.

[BlueEyedSon]

2. And after everything the Bush guys did to him....!

Either you are for the rule of law, or you are with the terra-ists.

[MadMaddie]

3. This is why he can't be trusted...

what's there to study....the election was stolen right out from under him....when does he get a spine?

[Mass]

7. So he should jump on something that he has not read and that

Feingold decided on his own.

He says he needs to read the bill before signing on. Nothing bad. He said the same thing on Alito. We all know what happened.

I have higher standards for my senators. Sorry.

[MadMaddie]

19. I agree he should read it.....no problems there...

But it sounds like he is not sure if he would support this process even if he did agree.

[ClassWarrior]

22. Yes, and the Corporate Media is so trustworthy when it comes to...

...what "it sounds like."

:eyes:

NGU.

[Mass]

23. Not what his office is answering though. And it is not something he said

It is more like what NBC decided a catchy title would be.

[Tesha]

89. So here's what Kerry *SHOULD* say:

So here's what Kerry *SHOULD* say:

"I haven't had a chance to read Senator Feingold's motion to censure,
but I know that if it contains even *HALF* the allegations against the
President that we all know to be true, then I'll gladly support it.

For example, if Senator Feingold alleges that President Bush
lied to cause us to invade Iraq..."

"Or if Senator Feingold alleges that Bush abused his position
to enrich his friends at Hallyburton, and Enron, and Exxon/Mobil..."

"Or if it's alleged that deliberate deriliction of presidential
duty led to the shameful failure to act ahead of the levees
in New Orleans being breached..."

But Kerry is a political coward, so he won't say anything like
this until he's sure that the rest of the party is charging in
ahead of him.

Tesha

[file83]

90. Curious though, ain't it, that Kerry takes more time to "study" this bill

than he did before signing the Patriot Act?

Curious too that it was Russ Feingold who was the ONLY SENATOR to NOT sign the Patriot Act?

I know you have high standards for your Senators, the question is, which Senator do you trust more?

[blm]

99. The one who exposed more government corruption than any other

lawmaker in modern history.

The one who submitted the Clean Elections bill. The one who wanted further inquiry into CIA drugrunning. The one who wanted an inquiry into Downing Street Memos.

Ever do a complete research on any lawmaker?

[file83]

117. My point is that even though Kerry did those great things...

...why the FUCK is he playing politics here?

Kerry took great political risks by investigating the CIA drug running (but he also knew that if his investigations revealed corruption - it would pay back in HUGE political dividends and put his name on the map). High Risk - High Reward.

Yet Kerry obviously signed the Patriot Act without knowing what he was signing because it was the safest political move to make at the time. Fuck all what it meant for our civil liberties, right?

Yet Feingold made the most dangerous and courageous move I've ever seen (with little potential political "reward") - by doing the RIGHT thing, not bowing to SEVERE political pressure - and did NOT vote for the USA Patriot Act.

So, now Feingold makes yet another politically risky move by proposing a bill for censure, yet Kerry now wants to "take the time" to read something that he should already be well informed on (we know he can do this because of his previous accomplishments you pointed out)?

This is just Kerry playing politics - he knows that if he backs this Feingold bill AND if it passes, he knows Feingold's leadership will put him in a much stronger position for 2008 than it would for Kerry. But Kerry must also way the fact that if he doesn't support this bill, he could suffer from the voters. Kerry is carefully weighing NOT the contents of the bill, but the political momentum it might give Feingold.

[blm]

131. Bull - the MEDIA is playing the story all wrong and YOU are letting em.

And Why did Feingold not support investigating DSM?

Why was Feingold not with Clean Elections?

Why was Feingold never interested in CIA drugrunning that was supporting terrorists while decimating black neighborhoods?

Did Feingold testify to allow gays to serve openly in the military?

Don't even TRY to pretend that Feingold has shown more courage in the senate than Kerry has. Kerry and Feingold were NOT that far apart on Patriot Act. Kerry supported about 90% of it and Feingold supports about 85% of it..

Maybe if Feingold and other senators supported Kerry when he wanted Clinton to open the books on BCCI, no 9-11 could have happened, no Bush would be in office, and no anti-terror legilslation would be needed today.

[file83]

138. Good point - so I'm arguing about some B.S. the MSM wants me

to think. I apologize for letting them "divide and conquer" us. I heard that he's supporting it now so your point is proven. :blush:

[oneold1-4u]

18. Without the wife

He'd be worthless! And that has nothing to do with money!

[blm]

34. Think what the last 35 yrs would have been like without Kerry.

Did you really want IranContra to go uninvestigated or exposed?

Did you really want BCCi to go univestigated and exposed?

Did you really want CIA drugrunning to remain hidden?

Did you really want Vietnam, Iran-Iraq war, and the illegal wars in Central America to last longer?

Did you NOT want a Clean Elections bill offered in the Senate?

Did you NOT want a Dem senator to warn this nation about the growing terror threat in 1997?

Were you in waiting for some other senator to favor investigations into DSM or filibuster Alito?

[jus_the_facts]

128. some of the GUILTY from those *scandals* are still alive and well...

...in politics and business....none of those instances matter in the *grand schemes* of today..or do they?! :nopity:

[blm]

133. Everything happening today is rooted in IranContra and BCCI.

Damn most of DC and the Dem powerstructure working against Kerry all those years instead of helping him expose the corruption.

I blame all who worked to obstruct full exposure.

[jus_the_facts]

139. yet he couldn't even defend himself.....

....against those *swiftboaters* with silver stars...purple hearts and the Pentagon on his side. :eyes:

[blm]

140. The research forum proves otherwise - not that media would air that

defense against the swiftliars.

Ever check out the fact thread on the swiftliar defense in the research forum?

[jus_the_facts]

142. it's still a FACT that he exposed all of that in the past....but....

...none of it matters one bit...the criminals behind Iran Contra and BCCI are in control NOW...NOT KERRY! :think:

[blm]

146. I meant the research forum here at DU on the swiftliars.

But, specifically regarding your lament - the facts about the corruption will ALWAYS matter. The internet actually helps. Imagine if we had an internet army helping Kerry then. Damn, this world would be so much different.

[jus_the_facts]

150. It doesn't seem to matter much at all...

....regardless...here we are.

[blm]

152. That's where we differ - I think it's important to KEEP connecting the

dots that the newsmedia meticulously ignores. Why do you think Octafish, H2Oman and robertpaulsen stay on top of these stories for the rest of us?

Why would anyone in their right mind who knows the truth accept the corporate media's silence as defeat? I'm made of tougher stuff than that. Thankfully there are more like me.

[file83]

147. You have read my mind exactly.

Just wanted to let you know you aren't alone in your line of reasoning there. You are obviously well read, and hence, informed on this subject. :thumbsup:

[jus_the_facts]

151. Isn't it ironic....

...reality...and the paradox that lies within.

[stepnw1f]

157. Why Can't He Be Trusted?

[huskerlaw]

4. Maybe he'd rather

impeach him.

[file83]

85. If so, then he should declare that...

...but until then, I'm just a paranoid "conspiracy theorist" for thinking that John Kerry would never try to harm the career of a fellow Skull and Bones member. Let the mocking of me in my :tinfoilhat: begin in 4...3...2...

[blm]

101. HYeah - like the way Kerry let Bush beat him so badly at the debates.

.

[file83]

106. Yeah - like the way Kerry conceeded the election to his buddy IMMEDIATELY.

[blm]

114. Like the FACT that no other senator has even come CLOSE to investigating

and exposing BushInc more than Kerry has - and even YOU can't dispute the FACTS of history. There is too much HISTORICAL EVIDENCE that you are wrong - it's sitting in the congressional record and the National Security Archives.

[file83]

118. But if Kerry is so great at "investigating" BushCo corruption - why isn't

he informed enough on this Feingold bill which he could have read yesterday? If he is so committed, then why didn't he do that and hit the pavement running this Monday morning in support of the bill? Afterall, as you said, Kerry does have a "proven" track record.

[huskerlaw]

122. I love how you're all

conspiracy theorist when it comes to Bush & Kerry's relationship, and yet you believe it when the mainstream media says Kerry is "unsure". :eyes:

[file83]

144. "Conspiracy Theorist"? So, to discuss political motives at the DU

is now considered "Conspiracy Theorist"? Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. :dunce::silly::dunce:

Attempting to discredit through mischaracterization is really original. The ironic part is that your mistrust of the mainstream media is by definition a "conspiracy theory". Are you wrong? Maybe not, but then that means that you are yourself a "conspiracy theorist", so I'm not really sure what your point was, do you?

[huskerlaw]

145. You're the one

that used the tin-foil hat on yourself.

I never said that I mistrusted the mainstream media, merely that I thought it was interesting that you apparently don't.

[file83]

148. I was being sarcastic when I said that because I knew that

someone would eventually pull out that phrase. Sarcasm. :sarcasm: Get it? (Hence my countdown "4...3...2...")

My point is that so many people discuss political motives ALL DAY LONG here at the DU (and everywhere else) but some "motives" are taboo, and therefore "off limits" even though they are perfectly legitmate (such as the life long relationship S&B has on it's members, which number many in politics and not just limited to Bush & Kerry).

It is simply a mistake to write off this relationship between Bush and Kerry but so many do in a such a passionate way by labeling anyone that brings it up as a "conspiracy theorist".

[huskerlaw]

149. Well excuse me

I guess my sarcasm detector wasn't working.

Meanwhile, you're attaching stigma to the term "conspiracy theorist" which frankly you don't know if I meant. It is a theory, is it not? Since you're using other relationships withing S&B to try to "prove" or "theorize" a similar relationship between Bush and Kerry. I assume you don't have any actual proof to back that up. If you do, then it may be something more than a theory and my characterization was incorrect.

That said, theories aren't always wrong. I never said you were full of shit or that your argument was off limits or otherwise illegitmate. Don't take your frustrations with other people out on me.

[file83]

153. But your "sarcasm generator" seems to be working just fine!

:applause:

[blm]

123. He was also scheduled for this small business forum in Ohio.

SOMEBODY has to keep looking out for the small biz folks while BushInc is pushing for big bizness.

[pocket]

5. what a wuss

sheesh

[ClassWarrior]

12. Yeah, only wusses are well-informed. I'd rather my leaders be ignorant.

NGU.

[BlooInBloo]

32. I read it yesterday - and it's not even my JOB...

... Why couldn't he?

Of course maybe reading it isn't the issue - maybe things like press spin and polls are more the issue for him....

[ClassWarrior]

35. Of course, maybe giving people the ol' Progressive benefit of the doubt...

...isn't the issue. Maybe trolling is more the issue for some posters.

:rofl:

NGU.

[BlooInBloo]

40. People differ on how many times they're willing to be burned.....

... by giving someone the benefit of the doubt... I'm happy to live with reasonable people coming to different conclusions on that question - are you?

What's "ngu" by the way?

[WildEyedLiberal]

61. Like how Kerry started a filibuster when no one else did?

You're getting burned, buddy, but it ain't Kerry doing the burning. Maybe you should stop and consider who is feeding you lies that make you doubt the one man who has done more in his life to expose government fraud and corruption than any other lawmaker.

[BlooInBloo]

70. I'll admit that's relevant as soon as you show me where I claimed...

... that Kerry never did anything right ever.

[blm]

74. you didn't - you said press spin and polls may be more important

to Kerry - his entire senate record proves otherwise.

[BlooInBloo]

79. Really. His entire senate record?

Including his vote "for the war"?

In any case: I think you're taking me as being a vehement anti-Kerry person - I'm not. It does however hardly seem arguable that Kerry is among the often-puts-finger-in-the-wind-to-see-what-he-thinks crowd more than some others (Dean leaps to mind quickly, for example). His "not having read" the censure proposal in a timely manner suggests that this may be one of those cases.

Am I really so awful for having such suspicions? :shrug:

[WildEyedLiberal]

84. Yes, because they're not based in reality

Bush could be impeached for the IWR. Kerry was NEVER in favor of invading Iraq. Had IWR been followed, we would not be in Iraq. PERIOD.

Someone with his finger in the wind would NEVER have pursued justice with BCCI. Never have filibusted Alito. Would not have one of the top ten lifetime liberal voting records.

Your views are ill-gained and I suggest you read the facts about Kerry instead of the propaganda you've obviously swallowed.

[blm]

86. Because he has LONG done important work that was rarely popular.

And I dare say that many would have HATED Dean's centrist policies as governor of Vermont and accused him of doing the pro-business, popular thing for 11 yrs if DU had been a factor throughout his career as governor.

I KNOW you are wrong about the poll stuff - that has been a media ploy against Dems for decades.

[karynnj]

77. Also,

Feingold didn't immediately say what he was doing on the Alito filibuster. No one posted the this type of nonsense before he made a definitive statement. (In fact the comments posted here mentioned his view that the President should get his appointees - even though I think that was for cabinet posts.)

So far, you have Kerry's office saying yes and a MSNBC article saying he needed to look at it. Who knows when they got the quote.

[WildEyedLiberal]

80. DU has a double standard for Kerry and Feingold

It's ok if Feingold doesn't start a filibuster or immediately jump on board with it. It's ok if Feingold voted for Ashcroft and Roberts. It's ok that Feingold is talking about censure as an alternative to impeachment, which from any other senator would get him labeled a DINO sellout. It's ok for people to mock Kerry's filibuster - a far more substantive stand that a censure, since stopping Alito would have actually done some good, whereas a censure is just red meat thrown to the base - but it's not ok to admit that a censure is basically a useless feel-good measure that will surely fail the Senate.

The double standard is huge and it is unwarranted.

[file83]

97. Kerry "trusted" the writers of the USA Patriot Act by signing without

studying it, but he doesn't place the same "trust" in Senator Feingold's bill (which Kerry could have read yesterday), written by the only Senator to NOT sign the Patriot Act because it had been re-written only hours before it was put up for vote?

Hmmmm....no double standard there.

[blm]

110. No - that's why the Dems forced sunset clauses on parts of Patriot Act.

The parts that were changed so there was no time for anyone to read it were forced into sunsetting.

[blm]

62. in that case, he never would've supported gays in the military, the Alito

filibuster, or investigations into IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning.

[sui generis]

6. sheeeeeeeesh!

good grief man!

you have to flip before you can flop!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Just like he "studied" the IWR" vote. aka Watched the polls.

Typical.

[blm]

11. Typical to someone who doesn't know the last 35yrs of US history and

believes the corporate media spin against Kerry.

[Mass]

14. My guess Kerry probably did not say he is unsure.

This is probably NBC traduction. He may have said it was not the right place to answer the question or whatever of the sort. His office is answering he will support the proposition.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Corporate media spin? Oh, he didn't vote for the war?

Boy, they are good at "spinning". Oh, yeah, he voted for "Authorization of the use of force".

The only problem with that horseshit is that anyone with an IQ above that of a turnip could see that Bush was going to use force no matter what.

[blm]

36. So put your spotless record up against Kerry's flawed one.

And no one with comprehension skills would blame the IWR - the IWR would have prevented war with any other president administering it, even Reagan.

Bush VIOLATED the IWR.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

No shit. And, I'm sure that you and Kerry were shocked when he did.

Unlike most of the rest of the people of the world.

[karynnj]

78. I'm sure Kerry wasn't shocked

He was quoted in Nov, 2002 - he cautiously hoped the IWR would help avert the war. Remember that troops were already amassed when they voted. The DSM say the US and UK were already in on going to war. During the election, Teresa was quoted as saying that the impact of the IWR was that the war was likely delayed 4 or 5 months - and that they had hoped it could be avoided.

The vote didn't cause the war. Kerry spoke out against going to war before Bush invaded.

[sendero]

136. Really..

.... please stop with the crap that Kerry did 20 effing years ago. Before he had presidential aspirations, he did the right thing a lot more often. Ok?

[blm]

141. Because it wasn't just 20yrs ago - it's been his entire senate career

which too many are majorly ignorant of considering they are supposed to be Dems here.

[blm]

9. If it's a straight censure, I hope he supports it. If it's censure as an

alternative to impeachment, I won't like it so much.

[Mass]

10. Feingold chose not to involve any senators. They need to read the bill

before. Would you want a senator that signs on bills without knowing what is inside.

It is exactly what he said for Alito.

[blm]

16. He absolutely needs to read the bill - I'm just adding my .02

- as always.

;)

[Pithy Cherub]

28. The senators didn't read the original Patriot Act either before

they "responsibly" voted for it. They don't need to sign on first, it is a no brainer to say it merits very serious consideration for the following reasons (unending litany of bush's screwups) and I look forward to discussing it in more detail with Senator Feingold.

[Mass]

31. They know they were wrong for the PA. He said he needed to study it

that is all. The rest is NBC boiler plate. But if you prefer to believe NBC rather than Kerry's staffers, that is your right. We all know they are so trustful.

[Pithy Cherub]

60. nbc isn't trustworthy. Kerry's staffers should be much

better about ensuring that he comes across the way he would like to be percieved. Instead...

[file83]

93. The IRONY here is that FEINGOLD didn't sign the Patriot Act because

he didn't have enough time to read it. EVERY other Senator, including Kerry, did sign the Patriot Act. So my question is, why is Kerry "taking the time" to "study" this bill this time? :shrug:
Curious how that works out, eh?

[blm]

104. And Feingold trusted that Downing Street Memos didn't need investigation.

And he didn't join Kerry on investigating the CIA drugrunning, or the Clean Elections bill to get all corporate money out of the campaigns.

Curious how that works out, eh?

[mzmolly]

13. People should read things before lending support.

A more accurate title might be "Kerry considering supporting censure." ;)

[Mass]

17. NBC - No surprise here. No surprise on DUers believing the media too

[blm]

20. That's how a real media would headline it.

.

[blm]

65. Hey, mz, start a new thread with that headline - hahah

watch how much a headline can change perception.

[mzmolly]

81. LOL.

Be my guest madam. :hi:

I'm off to be responsible - YUK!

[bleedingheart]

15. yeah...he is really fighting for us...

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. I'll bet he will.

But, if he doesen't he had better have a pretty good reason!!

[PBass]

30. Call your senators and ask them to support it

Toll free: 1-800-335-4949

[chicofaraby]

25. If he had to think twice

He was the wrong man in 2004.

You either support warrantless wiretaps on Americans or you don't.

It's not a hard decision.

[Mass]

33. May be he needs to read it before he says he agrees.

Or do you want automatons? Kerry's office says he is on board.

I guess you have renounced calling yours.

[chicofaraby]

37. I'm sure he will read it.

I hope he votes for it.

But he voted for this fake war, so I'm skeptical.

[Mass]

41. He led the Alito filibuster and he said the same thing before it.

so I am less skeptical. He also voted against Rice, Ashcroft, Roberts, Gonzales ...

May be the fact I am not from TX, but from MA, helps as well to feel where he will fall.

[chicofaraby]

43. I hope you're right.

I truly do.

[blm]

45. I don't want him to support it UNLESS it's clear that it's not INSTEAD OF

impeachment.

Feingold may have misspoken this morning when he said censure was appropriate remedy over impeachment which is a radical measure - but, if he didn't misspeak and meant that, then I don't think I support censure in that case when the house is working for impeachment.

[babylonsister]

67. You need to do a little research:

"One of the few things I enjoyed hearing in Judge Alito’s confirmation hearings was his statement that no one, not even the President, is above the law. If only the man who nominated him for the Supreme Court took those words to heart. Today the president spoke for nearly two hours, but failed to explain why he considers himself above the law. The president has yet explain why the secret FISA courts are not good enough or fast enough, or tell Congress what changes need to be made in the law. It’s time for a real investigation to get to the truth."

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1724

A One - Two Punch from Kerry and Harman Leads the Dem’s Fight on Bush’s Domestic Spying
January 23rd, 2006 @ 9:13 am
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1720

John Kerry Calls for Independent Counsel to Investigate Bush Warrentless Wiretaps
January 22nd, 2006 @ 9:08 am

John Kerry was on “This Week” with George Stephanopoulos, this morning. He spoke against Bush’s warrantless wiretaps, calling them “a clear violation of the law.”

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1715

[karynnj]

83. He was one of the first to say it was illegal

back in December when it first came out. The biggest problem may be that censure usually follows investigation - but we have no ability to investigate.

[WI_DEM]

26. my guess is that in the end he will be one of a handful of Senators

who will vote for censure. That is if it's even allowed to get to the floor.

[Dogmudgeon]

27. TRAITOR! WHORE! TRAITOR! WHORE!

There -- is everybody happy now?

:evilgrin:

God forbid he actually read the thing first!

--p!

[Just Me]

50. OMG!!!

:rofl: You made me pee myself!!! :rofl:

[Catrina]

29. Bush admitted publicly that he broke the law, and vowed to continue

doing so. It should not have taken this long for a Representative of the people to at least censure him for that. I'm glad Feingold is at least focusing on the lies Bush told.

I'm not sure what there is to study, the FISA law was broken, the Republicans are planning to try to make it go away by changing the law. They will get away with it unless Demcorats get some spine and force the issue to the front pages.

Kerry could introduce a bill asking for a thorough investigation of what they were doing, who they were spying on. Comey was supposed to testify but the hearings were cancelled. Why are Dems not screaming about this? Byrd has a petition asking for an investigation. Republicans could be forced to sign such a bill now since polls show this issue, Domestic spying, is of great concern to the American people.

[Mass]

38. God prevents that he answer on his own terms rather than to a couple

of people waiting for him during a meeting about jobs and small companies that have nothing to do with nothing.

I understand that people are impatient, but this is absolutely silly, particularly considering that several people have said that his office is reporting he is on board.

[still_one]

39. give us some more nuance John

this doesn't take a lot of thought

maybe you want to do an opinion poll before you decide?

[Individualist]

48. He has another secret plan,

doncha know!

[blm]

49. And maybe the headline can read Kerry Considering Support for Censure

and is looking forward to reading the submitted bill.

[Mass]

59. No, you would hurt some frail souls here that cant stand the idea

that Kerry is not always going to screw them.

[Jacobin]

42. what's he doing??? a fucking focus group on it?

What an ass.

[emulatorloo]

73. read other posts - office says he is onboard

EOM

[file83]

124. You need to put "eom" or "n/t" in your subject line, otherwise

we end up clicking on your comment only to find out "eom" is in there. There is no point of putting "eom" in the message body. Just a heads up.

[karynnj]

96. He is actually working on something else today

He is the Ranking member of the Small Business Committee. He is in Ohio meeting with representatives of small businesses and the mayor. The SBA just had its budget slashed again - including cutting or eliminating programs that have been shown to more than pay off. Your state is very affected by this as the budget funds the disaster loans. Have you called your Senators? The MA people have called theirs and likely have better information - The media wouldn't put out false info would they - and suggesting Kerry was against it could make it seem riskier for a Senator on the fence.

Kerry was one of the first to clearly and unequivically condemn the wireless warrants. If there's any complication, it might be that censures usually follow investigations. Also, once there's a censure vote that fails, there may never be an investigation. It might be a good idea to wait for him to issue an official statement or to vote.

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[SammyWinstonJack]

111. Oh brother!

:eyes: What a load!

[bpilgrim]

46. figures... 6 years ain't enough for some of our leaders

:argh:

peace

[BiggJawn]

47. Stick your finger up and see what way the wind's blowing, John...

Maybe those Coporate moneymen who throw you a coupla Grand while they give Megabux to the RNC might be pissed, but how about the OTHER (non-corporate) people???

What did John Kerry say as he sat down on the American Standard?

"Reportin' for DOODIE!"

[blm]

52. Try a different headline: Kerry Considering Support for Censure

and is looking forward to reading the bill.

[BiggJawn]

66. Oh, whatever. He had his chance.

If he was really for the people, he'd have his OWN censure bill ready to go, but NO-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O!!!

That might alienate the "Swing Voters".

I don't live in Mass., so John Kerry's a non-factor in my life anymore.

[WildEyedLiberal]

69. Like how he started the filibuster of Alito when no one else did?

Wow, what a "non-factor."

Fucking pathetic.

You think the filibuster effort endeared him to "swing voters"? Fuck no - he got criticized by left, right, and center.

I'll take a filibuster of a dangerous judicial nominee over substanceless red meat like a censure any day.

Your agenda grows tiresome.

[blm]

72. Except censure is usually a compromise when you want to forego impeachment

I prefer impeachment and support the growing movement for it in congress.

[emulatorloo]

76. well, here is what your "non-factor" has been up to since Jan 05

Sorry I didn;t edit out the Mass only stuff -- but he has done plenty of national import

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/press-statement.cfm

03/10/2006 PTSD Screening and Treatment Programs
03/01/2006 John Kerry on Katrina Revelations
03/01/2006 Kerry Demands Independent Oversight of Congress
02/28/2006 Kerry: Israel Boycott Calls Dubai Ports Deal Further Into Question
02/28/2006 John Kerry on Commerce Committee Hearing on Dubai Ports Deal
02/22/2006 Kerry Presses Secretary Snow for Full Disclosure in Dubai Ports Deal
02/21/2006 Senator John Kerry on the Passing of Eli J. Segal
02/17/2006 ALLEN, KERRY INTRODUCE WIRELESS INNOVATION ACT
02/16/2006 John Kerry to Deliver Commencement Address at Kenyon College
02/16/2006 John Kerry Leads Military Pay-Raise Effort
02/16/2006 Kerry Seeks to End Royalty Windfall for Oil Companies
02/16/2006 John Kerry: “Scientific Censorship Has No Place in the United Sates of America”
02/14/2006 John Kerry to Introduce Resolution Today to Fix “Royalty Relief Program” for Oil Companies
02/13/2006 Senate National Security and Energy Leaders Call On Secretary Rice to Address Addiction to Oil in Testimony Tomorrow
02/09/2006 Kerry, Salazar Move to Deny Pensions to Lawbreaking Lawmakers
02/08/2006 Kerry Asks Pentagon to Clarify that America Will Not Have Permanent Military Presence in Iraq
02/06/2006 Statement by John Kerry on the President’s Budget
01/31/2006 Senator John Kerry on the Passing of Coretta Scott King
01/30/2006 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Alito Nomination
01/27/2006 Senator John Kerry Speaks Out Against Alito Nomination
01/26/2006 Kerry Supports Filibuster of Alito Nomination
01/26/2006 John Kerry on Palestinian Elections
01/25/2006 John Kerry: Military Must Be Ready to Face Modern-Day Threats
01/25/2006 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on His Opposition to Judge Alito’s Nomination to the Supreme Court
01/24/2006 Kerry on IRS Review of Frozen Tax Refunds and EITC
01/24/2006 John Kerry: Where’s the accountability?
01/24/2006 Kerry, Kennedy, Senate Democrats Continue Fight for Home Heating Assistance
01/23/2006 John Kerry: President Fails to Explain Why He’s Above the Law
01/19/2006 Kerry, Obama Fight to Protect EITC, Tax Refunds For American Families
01/16/2006 Statement by Senator John Kerry in Honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
01/06/2006 Kerry, Isakson Push for Tougher Penalties For Child Internet Pornography
01/06/2006 John Kerry Blasts Pat Robertson for Sharon Comments
12/23/2005 Statement by John Kerry on U.S. Troop Withdrawals From Iraq
12/13/2005 John Kerry Honors Latino Chamber of Commerce Business Center
12/08/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry on Iranian President’s Assault on Israel
12/08/2005 Senator John Kerry Delivers Speech on War on Terror
12/06/2005 Former White House Aide, Celtics Coach Jon Jennings New Massachusetts State Director
12/05/2005 John Kerry: Time for a New Secretary of Defense
12/05/2005 John Kerry on 9/11 Commission Giving Washington Failing Grade on Homeland Security
12/01/2005 Kerry to Attend Rosa Parks Statue Bill Signing
11/22/2005 Kerry, Jackson: President Should Sign Rosa Parks Bill into Law by December 1st Anniversary
11/21/2005 John Kerry Responds to Latest Republican Personal Attacks
11/21/2005 Kerry Responds to Latest Attacks by Dick Cheney
11/18/2005 John Kerry Responds to Sickening Republican Attacks on Decorated Veteran Rep. Jack Murtha
11/18/2005 Rosa Parks Bill Passes Senate, Civil Rights Hero will be Honored with Statue in Statuary Hall
11/18/2005 John Kerry Speaks on Senate Floor, Responds To Sickening Attacks on Decorated Veteran Rep. Jack Murtha
11/17/2005 Kerry Amendments Pass Senate, Keep Promise To Troops, Military Families, Small Businesses
11/17/2005 Kerry Amendment to Hold TSA Accountable Passes Senate Commerce Committee
11/17/2005 Kerry Amendments Pass Senate, Keep Promise To Troops, Military Families, Small Businesses
11/16/2005 Statement of John Kerry on Legislation to Honor Rosa Parks With a Statue in U.S. Capitol
11/16/2005 Senator John Kerry Responds To Latest Cheney Personal Attacks and Lies
11/16/2005 Statement of John Kerry on Legislation to Honor Rosa Parks with a Statue in U.S. Capitol
11/15/2005 CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS MOVING FORWARD ON HOUSE AND SENATE BILLS TO HONOR ROSA PARKS IN NATIONAL STATUARY HALL
11/14/2005 Kerry Responds to Bush Attacks: White House Misleading Public on Prewar Iraq Intelligence
11/11/2005 Senator Kerry Honors Massachusetts War Heroes at Veterans Day Ceremony
11/11/2005 John Kerry Responds to George Bush's Veterans Day Political Attacks
11/10/2005 Senator John Kerry’s Response to Senator McCain’s Mischaracterization of His Iraq Plan
11/10/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Republican Leadership’s Failure To Ram ANWR Drilling through House of Representatives
11/10/2005 Remarks By Senator Kerry
11/10/2005 Kerry Introduces Strategy for Success in Iraq Act in United States Senate
11/10/2005 Senate Passes Kerry Amendment Demanding Accountability on Secret Prisons
11/05/2005 Leahy Joins Kerry’s Call for 20,000 Troops Home from Iraq by the Holidays
11/04/2005 The Rosa Parks Memorial Statue Act of 2005 (S. 1959)
11/04/2005 Es hora del que Bush se vuelva a involucrar con Latinoamérica
11/03/2005 Senator John Kerry Introduces Legislation To Honor Rosa Parks in the U.S. Capitol with Statue
11/02/2005 Senators Bill Nelson, John Kerry Aim to Curb Increases In Medicare Premiums for Seniors
11/02/2005 Senator John Kerry’s Eulogy of Rosa Parks
11/01/2005 Kerry's June 2005 letter to the Intelligence Committee
11/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Tax Reform
11/01/2005 Roberts Reponse:
11/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Closed-Door Senate Session and Senate Failures to Investigate Pre-War Intelligence
10/31/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court
10/31/2005 Senator Kerry, Congressman Markey Fight to Protect Patients' Privacy
10/28/2005 John Kerry on Bush’s Terrorism Speech Today
10/28/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Indictments in CIA Leak Case
10/27/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry on the Withdrawal of Harriet Miers' Nomination to the Supreme Court
10/26/2005 Senator Kerry's op-ed on Latin America in El Nuevo Herald (Spanish)
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on the Passing of Congressman Ed Roybal
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on The Loss of the 2,000th American Service Member in Iraq
10/26/2005 Statement from John Kerry on Senate Defeat of LIHEAP Amendment
10/26/2005 Senator John Kerry Lays Out Path Forward in Iraq
10/25/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Rosa Parks
10/24/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry on Nomination Of Ben S. Bernanke to Serve as Chairman of the Federal Reserve
10/20/2005 John Kerry on Commerce Committee Defeat of McCain Amendment
10/19/2005 John Kerry to Introduce Legislation to Help Prevent Future Dam Emergencies
10/18/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON TAUNTON EVACUATION
10/18/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON TAUNTON EVACUATION
10/18/2005 Kerry, Kennedy Urge President Bush to Fully Fund LIHEAP
10/14/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Vivian Malone Jones
10/13/2005 Senator John Kerry on Small Business Administration's Role in Hurricane Reconstruction:
10/13/2005 John Kerry Statement on Passing of Dr. C. DeLores Tucker
10/12/2005 Kerry, New England Senators Call on Bush Administration to Increase Energy Assistance for Low Income Families, Seniors
10/07/2005 Kerry on Bush Speech, President’s Attacks on Critics
10/05/2005 John Kerry on Senate Defeat of LIHEAP Amendment
10/04/2005 Senate to Debate Kerry LIHEAP Amendment This Week
10/03/2005 Statement on the Nomination of Harriet Miers for Associate Justice
09/29/2005 Kerry, Durbin, Solis, Hastings Fight to Protect Public Health And Environmental Equality in the Gulf Coast
09/26/2005 John Kerry Addresses American Competitiveness
09/23/2005 John Kerry Joins Effort to Protect Communities' Rights to Provide Broadband Services
09/22/2005 Kerry Introduces Plan to Combat Global HIV/AIDS, Neglected Diseases
09/21/2005 John Kerry Opposes Roberts’ Nomination for Chief Justice
09/21/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on His Opposition to Judge Roberts' Nomination for Chief Justice
09/20/2005 John Kerry Addresses African American Prostate Cancer Summit; Demands Washington Address Racial Disparities
09/19/2005 John Kerry Addresses the Lessons of Katrina
09/15/2005 John Kerry Responds to President Bush’s Speech to the Nation
09/15/2005 Senate Passes Kerry Legislation to Provide Tax Relief, Help Guard and Reserve Troops Hurt By Katrina
09/14/2005 John Kerry: Administration Must Investigate Gas Price Gouging
09/13/2005 John Kerry Statement on President Bush’s Failure to Respond to Hurricane’s Devastation
09/13/2005 OTIS REMAINS OPEN FOR NEW MISSION
09/12/2005 Senator John Kerry on Resignation of FEMA Director
09/09/2005 John Kerry Offers Major Package of Legislation to Help Small Businesses, Others Devastated by Hurricane Katrina
09/09/2005 John Kerry Says SBA Must be Held Accountable for Misuse of 9/11 Funds
09/07/2005 Kerry, Kennedy and Meehan Demand EPA Cleans Up Water Contamination at W.R. Grace Superfund Site
09/07/2005 Kennedy, Kerry Announce Introduction of Lowell Park Expansion Legislation
09/06/2005 Senator Kerry Applauds Fight to Keep Otis Open, A-10s at Barnes
09/04/2005 Senator John Kerry on the Passing of Chief Justice William Rehnquist
08/26/2005 Senator John Kerry on BRAC Commission’s Decision on Otis and Barnes Air National Guard Bases
08/26/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON BRAC VOTES ON HANSCOM
08/25/2005 Senator John Kerry Commends Decision of BRAC to Keep Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Open
08/23/2005 John Kerry Says Proposed Fuel Economy Standards Don’t Address Problems with Foreign Oil, High Gas Prices
08/17/2005 SENATOR KERRY, SENATOR KENNEDY ANNOUNCE GRANT FOR MEDFORD LAW ENFORCEMENT
08/17/2005 SENATORS KERRY AND KENNEDY ANNOUNCE FEDERAL GRANT TO WEST SPRINGFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FINGERPRINTING TECHNOLOGY
08/17/2005 SENATORS KERRY AND KENNEDY ANNOUNCE FEDERAL GRANT TO WEST SPRINGFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FINGERPRINTING TECHNOLOGY
08/13/2005 Senator John Kerry Delivered Democratic Hispanic Radio Address on Saturday August 13, 2005
08/13/2005 Senador de Massachussets, John Kerry, Emite el Mensaje Semanal Demócrata por Radio
08/12/2005 Senator John Kerry Delivered Democratic Hispanic Radio Address
08/10/2005 Kerry, Kennedy, Romney and Delahunt Say New Calculations Show Defense Department Overstates Savings from Closing Otis ANGB by $500 Million Dollars
08/09/2005 John Kerry Says Energy Policy Fails Americans
08/08/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Passing of John H. Johnson
08/08/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Passing of Peter Jennings
08/03/2005 John Kerry on the 40th Anniversary of the Voting Rights Act
08/01/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Recess Appointment of John Bolton as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
07/29/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY LAUDS DECISION BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP MASSACHUSETTS TAXPAYER ASSISTANCE CENTERS OPEN AND URGES THE ADMINISTRATION TO SAVE BOSTON CALL SITE
07/29/2005 Senators Kerry and Kennedy Lead Bipartisan Effort to Get Emergency Funds for Shellfishermen
07/29/2005 John Kerry Says Energy Bill Fails Americans
07/27/2005 John Kerry Says Revolution in Telecommunications Must be Addressed in Legislation
07/26/2005 Senator John Kerry, Senator Edward Kennedy, Representative Michael Capuano Join the Massachusetts Coalition to Save Darfur to Raise Awareness of the Genocide
07/26/2005 Senators on Both Sides of the Aisle Call on President Bush to Release Home Energy Funds for Relief from Extreme Heat and Record Energy Costs
07/26/2005 Finance Committee Passes Kerry Plan to Protect Pensions, Hold CEOs Accountable
07/25/2005 Senators Urge Congressional Investigation Into Leak of CIA Agent Valerie Plame’s Name
07/22/2005 Kerry: American People Must Know Roberts' Record on Civil Rights
07/21/2005 Kerry, House and Senate Environmental Leaders Call for Administration To Reverse Backwards March on Environmental Justice
07/20/2005 Bush Administration Blocking Gas-Price Relief for Farmers, Truckers, Small Businesses
07/20/2005 John Kerry: Protect the Bill of Rights and Freedom of the Press
07/20/2005 John Kerry: Fewer Speeches, More Action Needed on Port Security
07/19/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of John G. Roberts to the Supreme Court
07/19/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON BRAC COMMISSION HEARING TODAY
07/18/2005 Senator John Kerry Announces $8,037,000 Grant Awarded to the Massachusetts Victim Witness Assistance Board
07/18/2005 Senator John Kerry Calls for Immediate Action on Veterans’ Health Care
07/15/2005 MASSACHUSETTS CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION DEMANDS SANTORUM APOLOGY
07/14/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry on Homeland Security Bill
07/14/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry: White House Claim that Too Much is Being Spent On Veterans’ Health Care is “Outrageous”
07/14/2005 Senator John Kerry Fights for Red Tide Program Funds, Criticizes Bush Budget Cuts
07/13/2005 John Kerry on Rick Santorum's Insult to Massachusetts and Abuse Victims Everywhere
07/12/2005 Senate Adopts Port Security Amendment to Homeland Security Bill
07/12/2005 John Kerry: America’s National Security - Not Karl Rove’s Job Security - Should be Administration’s Only Priority
07/12/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY AND SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY ANNOUNCE $13,709 GRANT TO BOLSTER LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS IN WARREN
07/12/2005 Senator John Kerry Works to Secure America’s Ports
07/07/2005 Statement from Senator John Kerry On Terrorist Bombings in London
07/06/2005 SENATOR JOHN KERRY FIGHTS FOR MASSACHUSETTS BASES AT PUBLIC BRAC HEARING
07/01/2005 Sen. John Kerry On The Retirement of Associate Justice Sandra Day O’Connor
06/30/2005 John Kerry continues to fight against LNG in Fall River
06/30/2005 John Kerry: CAFTA is a Giant Step Backward
06/29/2005 PRO-TRADE DEMOCRATS BLAST BUSH TRADE POLICY
06/29/2005 John Kerry on Medicaid: The Status Quo is Broken, Especially When It Comes to Kids
06/28/2005 New York Times The Speech the President Should Give
06/28/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Bush’s Fort Bragg Speech
06/28/2005 John Kerry Speaks Out on Iraq, Details Concrete Steps President Must Take to Rescue the Mission
06/24/2005 Kerry Fights to Help Small Businesses and Farmers Deal with Soaring Fuel Costs
06/23/2005 STATEMENT FROM SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON ADMINISTRATION’S DENIAL TO DECLARE MASSACHUSETTS RED TIDE CRISIS A NATIONAL DISASTER
06/23/2005 Kerry on Rove Comments: Make America Safe, Not Divided
06/23/2005 STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN KERRY ON NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND REPORT BY MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC EDUCATION COALITION
06/23/2005 John Kerry: Time for a Policy Wake-Up Call on China
06/22/2005 Kerry joins Bipartisan Group in Offering Climate Change Amendment to Energy Bill
06/22/2005 Kerry Statement on the Release of the DNC Voting Rights Institute Ohio Report
06/21/2005 John Kerry on Marine Corps Report on Equipment Shortages
06/16/2005 Commerce Department Answers Call from Senator Kerry and the Massachusetts Delegation to Declare a Fishery Disaster in Massachusetts
06/16/2005 New Report: Private Accounts Would Cut Benefits, Increase Costs for Small Businesses
06/15/2005 John Kerry Fights to Protect Medicaid Benefits in Massachusetts and the Nation
06/15/2005 John Kerry Urges Bush Administration to Keep Massachusetts IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers Open that Help Elderly and Low-Income Citizens
06/15/2005 John Kerry on GOP Proposal to Raise Retirement Age
06/15/2005 Kerry Takes Aim at Bush Energy Scheme
06/14/2005 CAFTA Information
06/14/2005 SBA RESPONDS TO SENATOR JOHN KERRY’S REQUEST TO DECLARE THE RED TIDE CRISIS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER TODAY
06/14/2005 John Kerry: After Decades of Inaction, A Time to Heal A Nation’s Wounds Over Lynching
06/13/2005 Jeffords and Kerry File Renewables Amendment To Energy Bill
06/13/2005 John Kerry: We Need a New, Common-Sense Approach to Trade
06/12/2005 John Kerry Applauds RiverFest for the Concord, Sudbury and Assabet Rivers
06/10/2005 Massachusetts Congressional Delegation Asks Commerce Department to Declare Massachusetts Disaster Area in Wake of Red Tide Crisis
06/10/2005 STATEMENT FROM JOHN KERRY ON GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S EFFORTS TO AID FISHERMEN
06/09/2005 SENATOR KERRY CONGRATULATES OUTSTANDING NCO OF THE YEAR STAFF SERGEANT ADAM BERG
06/09/2005 Kerry and Waxman Call for GAO Investigation Of Manipulated Climate Change Science
06/08/2005 John Kerry and Massachusetts Delegation Members Senator Kennedy and Congressmen Frank, Tierney, Delahunt and McGovern Strongly Urges Governor Romney to Act Quickly to Aid Fishermen in Red Tide Crisis
06/08/2005 John Kerry and Massachusetts Delegation Members Senator Kennedy and Congressmen Frank, Tierney, Delahunt and McGovern Strongly Urges SBA to Act Quickly to Aid Fishermen in Red Tide Crisis
06/02/2005 Pepperell Springs Conservation Effort Complete
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Join Students and Parents in Round Table Discussion on the Future of Head Start
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Visit Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts to Meet with Students and Staff of the TRIO Program
05/31/2005 Senator John Kerry to Visit Upper Housatonic River Valley to Highlight the Importance of Designating it a National Historic Preservation Area
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Host Town Hall Meeting on Issues Affecting Massachusetts’ Seniors
05/31/2005 John Kerry to Participate in Opening Ceremonies with the Kinsella Family at Brockton Rox Baseball Game
05/31/2005 Statement from John Kerry on Governor Romney’s Veto of the Stem Cell research bill passed by the Massachusetts Legislature
05/27/2005 Senator Kerry Honors Massachusetts War Heroes on Memorial Day Weekend, 2005
05/25/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Vote on Priscilla Owen
05/25/2005 Congressional Delegation United on NStar Utility Workers
05/24/2005 Fallout from "Nuclear Option
05/24/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Stem Cell Research
05/22/2005 Senator Kerry delivered at BU Medical School
05/19/2005 John Kerry on “Nuclear Option” on Judicial Nominees
05/18/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Massachusetts Lawsuit to Stop Toxic Mercury Pollution
05/17/2005 KENNEDY AND KERRY ANNOUNCE RECORD TRANSPORTATION FUNDING FOR MASSACHUSETTS – A $1.17 BILLION INCREASE OVER TEA-21
05/17/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the 51st Anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education
05/15/2005 John Kerry on New Mercury Rules:
05/13/2005 Statement by John Kerry On Pentagon’s Base Closure List
05/12/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Bolton Nomination
05/12/2005 John Kerry: It's Time to Reign in the Spin
05/05/2005 Statement by Senator John Kerry In Observance of Holocaust Remembrance Day
05/05/2005 John Kerry on Harmful Changes to “Roadless Rule”
04/28/2005 Kerry, Lautenberg Introduce Legislation to Stop Taxpayer-Funded Fake News Hearing on Bill Set for Early May
04/27/2005 John Kerry: White House, Congress Should “Go Back to the Drawing Board” on Energy Plan
04/25/2005 John Kerry to Address America’s Dangerous Dependence on Saudi Oil
04/21/2005 John Kerry on Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure To Focus on Real Priorities of the American People
04/21/2005 John Kerry on Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure To Focus on Real Priorities of the American People
04/21/2005 John Kerry to Address Republican Congressional Leadership's Failure to Focus On Real Priorities of the American People
04/20/2005 John Kerry on Retirement of Senator Jim Jeffords
04/20/2005 John Kerry: It’s Time for President Bush to Address Gas Prices, Dependence on Foreign Oil
04/19/2005 John Kerry at Senate Hearing on Toxic Mercury Pollution
04/19/2005 John Kerry at Senate Hearing on Toxic Mercury Pollution
04/19/2005 Senator John Kerry spoke this afternoon at a Senate hearing on toxic mercury pollution. The Merrimack Valley is one of nine mercury 'hotspots,' or areas with elevated mercury levels, in New England. The Senate Democratic Policy Committee held the hearing on mercury in response to repeated denials of Republican-led committees to hold hearings on the matter.
04/19/2005 John Kerry Fights to Halt Devastating Transit Cuts to Massachusetts Projects
04/19/2005 Statement from Senator John Kerry on Pope Benedict XVI
04/18/2005 Senate OKs death benefit boost for families of active-duty troops
04/14/2005 Channel 5 in Boston Reports on John Kerry's Victory for Military Families
04/14/2005 Kerry, Lautenberg Secure Hearing and Mark-Up on Fake News
04/14/2005 Senators John Kerry and Frank Lautenberg Say Taxpayer-funded “News” Abused by Administration Should Have Disclaimer
04/13/2005 Kerry pushes military initiative
04/13/2005 Senator Kerry Takes Military Story to the Senate
04/13/2005 Senate Passes Two John Kerry Amendments for Troops
04/12/2005 John Kerry Fights to Add Troop Benefits to Supplemental
04/11/2005 Statement by John Kerry on John Bolton’s Nomination as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
04/07/2005 Kerry: Publicize benefit for vets
04/04/2005 Stem-cell Research is Pro-Life
04/02/2005 Statement from Sen. John Kerry on the Passing of Pope John Paul II
03/30/2005
03/30/2005 Bush's Budget Assaults Our Values, by John Kerry
03/29/2005 Budgeting our values, by John Kerry
03/29/2005 Leading health care, children's and labor organizations support KidsFirst
03/27/2005 Dishonest' Bush budget ignores needs of the nation, by John Kerry
03/26/2005 Budgeting our values, by John Kerry
03/25/2005 Thanks to Dedicated Citizens, Assabet National Wildlife Refuge Opens
03/25/2005 SENATOR KERRY ANNOUNCES $267,986 STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES GRANT FOR MASSACHUSETTS COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS
03/25/2005 Bush’s latest budget plan is assault on country’s values, by John Kerry
03/24/2005 Leahy, Jeffords, Boxer and Kerry
03/22/2005 John Kerry on EPA Hiding Harvard Scientific Data on Health Effects of Mercury
03/17/2005 John Kerry Statement on Senate Action to Save Medicaid from Drastic Cuts
03/17/2005 John Kerry Says Washington Budget is Out of Touch With American Values
03/17/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Senate Action to Save Medicaid from Drastic Cuts
03/17/2005 Senate Passes Landrieu-Kerry Reserve Fund For Reservists and Small Businesses
03/16/2005 John Kerry will make a major speech on America's budget priorities on Thursday, March 17, to the Center for National Policy
03/16/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Paul Wolfowitz’s Nomination to be President of the World Bank
03/16/2005 LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE NEW FUNDS FOR YOUTHBUILD PROGRAMS IN MASSACHUSETTS
03/16/2005 Senate Opens Arctic Refuge to Drilling
03/15/2005 Senator John Kerry fights to establish the Upper Housatonic Valley National Heritage Area in Massachusetts and Connecticut
03/15/2005 Senator John Kerry fights to establish the Upper Housatonic Valley National Heritage Area in Massachusetts and Connecticut
03/15/2005 John Kerry on New Mercury Rules:
03/15/2005 Senators John Kerry and Maria Cantwell Team Up to Fight Drilling for Oil in Arctic Refuge
03/14/2005 Kerry, Cantwell Fight Arctic Drilling
03/11/2005 Statement of the National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems in Support of the “Kids Come First Act of 2005” (S. 114)
03/11/2005 Statement from Edward J. McElroy, President, American Federation of Teachers, Supporting “Kids First Act of 2005”
03/11/2005 “Kids Come First Act” Addresses Medicaid Challenges Facing Children
03/11/2005 Vote Kids Lends Support to Kids First Bill:
03/11/2005 March of Dimes Supports “Kids Come First Act of 2005”
03/09/2005 John Kerry Announces Half-Million ‘Citizen Cosponsors’ Of KidsFirst Health Care Plan
03/09/2005 John Kerry grassroots press conference
03/09/2005 John Kerry on Bush's Energy Plan: "Americans Deserve Better"
03/08/2005 Kerry Organizes Grassroots Coalition Behind KidsFirst Act, Calls for Senate Action
03/08/2005 John Kerry on President Clinton
03/07/2005 Statement by John Kerry on John Bolton's Nomination to be Ambassador to the United Nations
03/03/2005 Kerry, Bipartisan Coalition Win 11th Hour Push to Save Boston Teacher from Deportation
03/02/2005 A Pioneer in Civil Rights
03/02/2005 Working to Strenthen the American Military
03/02/2005 Jackie Robinson to Receive Congressional Gold Medal
03/02/2005 Jackie Robinson Receives Congressional Gold Medal For His Civil Rights Work
02/28/2005 Our military needs a better ally at home
02/24/2005 John Kerry on U.S.-Russia Nuclear Agreement
02/17/2005 John Kerry Calls for Election Reform
02/16/2005 John Kerry on Climate Change:
02/15/2005 John Kerry: Military Families Must be Part of Supplemental
02/14/2005 John Kerry Says America Must Stand By Our Military
02/11/2005 Senator John Kerry to Discuss Strengthening America's Military at Annual Worcester Telegram & Gazette Visions Ceremony
02/09/2005 John Kerry on Medicare Costs Estimates and the Health Care Crisis in America
02/09/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Climate Change
02/08/2005 John Kerry to Address Climate Change at The Brookings
02/07/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the President’s Budget
02/03/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General
02/03/2005 Statement by John Kerry on Social Security
02/02/2005 Statement by John Kerry on State of the Union Address
01/31/2005 Statement by John Kerry on the President’s Budget
01/27/2005 Remarks by Senator John Kerry on Kids First to Families USA
01/27/2005 John Kerry Rallies Families USA to Fight for "Kids First"
01/27/2005 Senator John Kerry "Kids First"
01/26/2005 John Kerry’s “Kids Come First” Act
01/21/2005 THE ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE
01/19/2005 Senator John Kerry Opposes Nomination Of Dr. Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State
01/16/2005 Senator John Kerry Statement on Martin Luther King, Jr.
01/16/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry
01/16/2005 Statement of Senator John Kerry
01/14/2005 STANDING BY OUR TROOPS AND MILITARY FAMILIES
01/06/2005 Statement by Senator Kerry on the Nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General
01/05/2005 Senator Kerry Statement on the Congressional Certification of Electoral College Results

[fedupinBushcountry]

87. So why bother

bashing. Really what the fuck do you care, or should I say what are you afraid of? :banghead:

If he is so meaningless to you why even post a remark.

[BiggJawn]

143. Because I haven't reached my quota of toss-off remarks for the day.

Gee, Sorry I'm sneering at everyone's Sacred Cow here...

Still waiting for those "lawyers on the ground in Ohio" I answered a special appeal for to DO something, I guess.

[karynnj]

112. Where was Feingold with an Alito filibuster?

He was on the judiciary and could have started it a few weeks earlier. Kerry couldn't as he was in India, Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan and Israel for the SFRC. Even if he were home, he would have to check that no one on that committee was doing anything.

He did call for an Independent investigator

[karynnj]

108. Shouldn't you be calling your own Senators?

Kerry is meeting with Ohio Small Business people as part of his job as ranking member of the Small Business Association. He was one of the first to speak out against the warrantless wiretaps and he has said that what Bush did violated the law. I assume he wants to put out a persuasive thoughtful statement - as he routinely does.

By the way, Kerry is one of a very small number of Senators who never took PAC money. He and Wellstone were the sponsors of the Clean Elections Act that would have taken that type of money out of politics. He also pursued BCCI inspite of the fact that Democratic money men were complicit. So that charge really doesn't work.

[More Than A Feeling]

51. My pure speculation is that it is possible that

he is weighing how much it will hurt him not to join in versus how much it will help Feingold to be seen leading on this issue. My hope is that he will take a deep breath and put the country above 2008 politics.

On edit: Well done, Senator Kerry:D :thumbsup:

[Mass]

53. His office is answering he is on board.

[blm]

57. Like with the Downing Street Memo inquiry he wanted that Feingold didn't?

Or like the Alito filibuster that he was STUCK leading when no one from the judiciary committee would support Kennedy?

Get a grip. Read the corporate media headlines and you get what you get.

[More Than A Feeling]

63. According to Mass, and Kerry's office, he is onboard

and I heartily salute him for that decision.

[blm]

68. Always a good move to DISTRUST corporate media headlines.

They are NOT on our side.

[file83]

135. Heaven and Earth - I got something for ya...

I like your signature line (matrix fan) so I made you a Feingold Avatar that doesn't distort his face. Here ya go...just save it and replace your old avatar with this one and Feingold will look normal!

[More Than A Feeling]

155. Unexpected kindness makes my day!

Thank you!:D

[endarkenment]

54. Headline is misleading.

Once again. I'll give Kerry the benefit of the doubt here. He is considering the censure proposal. Hopefully he will decide that the criminally incompetent traitors in the executive branch deserve to be censured. Soon.

[wiggs]

95. Not misleading. That's the problem.

The headline reflects what Kerry is saying. I have no problem with him being careful before committing to censure, wanting to read the censure proposal, etc.... but he has to realize what is going to be done with his statements. He has to realize that every time he opens his mouth it should be to take advantage of opportunity, not to give opportunity to others.

What could have been said: "I believe that this administration has acted in ways that scream for accountability and justice. The interests of the American people are at stake here. I am interested in the idea of censure, at a minimum, as a vehicle to shed light on misdeeds and I'll wait to comment on the censure resolution itself until I have a chance to hear my good friend Senator Feingold present the text and details."

This is unifying for dems and critical of the administration at the same time...as opposed to divisive and gray.

[allalone]

55. in your jobs

are you allowed to just go ahead and do things without reading them? Do you sign auto contracts without reading them? Do you sign anything without reading it? What are we paying these people for? What are they doing instead of their jobs? Read the fucking stuff ok?

[file83]

105. Well, Kerry "got away with" not reading the USA Patriot Act before

he signed it. It was re-written only hours before it was put up for vote so no one was able to actually review it. Senator Feingold was the ONLY Senator to NOT sign the bill for that reason. Funny how Kerry seems to be so cautious now and taking his time to support an issue he should already be very well read up on, afterall, like you said, it's his job!

[WildEyedLiberal]

56. All the idiots here willing to believe the MSM corporate spin

Constituents who called his office SAID HE WOULD SUPPORT IT.

Not that that is stopping the DU Keystone Kops from repeating their ignorant, brainless blather.

[Bob3]

58. Sounds like a waffle but let's see what he does after

he reads it. I'm willing to give some, not much, but some benefit of the doubt here. If he says he will not support it that's the time to get really really angry at him.

[emulatorloo]

71. See other replies in thread -- people report his office says he's onboard

Kind of a misleading headline to story if you ask me. . .

[Bob3]

91. A MSM headline misleading ? Gee what a shock.

Still someday I hope to see this misleading headline:

"RETIRING BUSH TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH FAMILY"

"President Bush announced his retirement today after a poll of the Senate before his trail was to begin showed the vote would be 82 to convict, 17 to acquit with Joe Lieberman casting the sole undecided vote."

[emulatorloo]

116. LOL --- I'm looking forward to that too

:toast:

[karynnj]

113. Are your Senators supporting it?

[Mass]

64. Why not call his office rather than attacking him on a media report

[TayTay]

75. I called his office

The person answering the phone said the Senator is in favor of the censure motion.

Call him yourself and ask: 1-888-355-3588

or directly at 1-202-224-2742

Geesh. Go to the source, ask and find out.

[bigtree]

92. >>>>>>>>>>> pick up a phone, huh?

:kick:

[dogday]

82. I think it is better not to speculate and let's

just see who will stand up to this Administration and who does not.

[radio4progressives]

88. That was predictable... Nothing like a Kerryesque Response

to really clarify the issues... :rofl:

[fedupinBushcountry]

98. Did you see any

QUOTES in that corporate news report? Oh sorry, I guess you believe everything that the corporate media report on. :rofl:

[blm]

107. You sure do LOVE corporate media when you can spin it against Kerry.

.

[ladjf]

94. If you want to know why many of us never felt confident about

Kerry, there's a good example. What possible gain for the Democrats or the U.S. would it be to not support an official censure? It's an opportunity lost. Without Kerry's support, the bill will not pass. He is still one of the most influential Democrats. That just makes me ill. What a coward!

[fedupinBushcountry]

103. For chrissakes !!!

Do you believe everything you read. Did you even bother to see that DU'ers know the facts (read the friggin posts), yet you believe the corporate media. :shrug:

[ladjf]

137. Your post is difficult to comprehend.

The second sentence, a question, is not a complete thought. If you'd care to rewrite it so that I can understand your point, I will re-read.


1. I did read the post about Kerry's comment.

2. I am informed.

3. No, I most definitely don't believe much of what I've read or heard in the media.

4. If Kerry was undecided about how he was going to vote, with regard to Fiengold's resolution, he could have at least made a some sort of generally supportive statement.

5. If the media has misquoted Kerry, then I'd be pleased.

[fedupinBushcountry]

154. Please

Here is your ????? Also, thank you, you proved my point that you read 1 post and started your criticism from that, without bothering to read any other responses on this thread.(DU'ers, come on now do I have to spell it out)

Kerry was not quoted, show me what HE said, in his words, in that article. Comprendo?

[ladjf]

156. Much clearer. I understand what you were suggesting.

I did accept the newspaper article as though it was a Kerry quote. If that turns out that he didn't say that he was undecided about how he would vote on the resolution, I will be pleased. He is a very
influential Democrat. We need his support.

[fedupinBushcountry]

159. One other thing

Don't talk to me as if I am some uneducated child, it is quite belittling and just plain rude.

[ladjf]

162. I thought the same thing about your first post to me.

Regarding the unclear sentence, it was a poor piece of writing. Your subsequent responses have shown
that you could have done better the first time.

As for my comment "much better", I was attempting to move our dialog out of an almost nasty tone toward humor. But, you didn't take it that way.

As a side note: I have noticed that people are usually free to comment about anything that's on their mind. However, if one criticizes Kerry, they should be prepared to be attacked by at least one person. I've often wondered why that was the case.

I voted for Kerry. But, I was disappointed with his campaign, his positions and his conduct after the election. I was indeed be sad to see him nominated again. However, I would vote for him.

Please, let's stop this bickering and focus our energy on getting Dems elected in 2006 and 2008.

[fedupinBushcountry]

169. Boy,

you are beyond reasoning with. Very rude indeed. EOM.

[blm]

134. Because you believe corporate media spin against him EVERY TIME like

clockwork.

Take your good example .... it's just another corporate media lie that you live by, as long as it's against Kerry, you're down with it.

[ladjf]

163. Ah, the old "Kerry defense" in the form of insult from the

ever loyal blm. How could I survive without your sage counsel?

If, in the course of the next few days, Kerry clarifies his position as supportive of at least the premise of Feingold's resolution, I will be very pleased, but surprised.

[Vidar]

100. Can't he he just keep quiet if he is unsure? He deserves flames here.

[blm]

109. Can you just not be spun by corporate media?

.

[ladjf]

164. Make any remark critical of Kerry and you will hear from blm

as well as several others that have posted in this stream.

[Vidar]

189. Thanks for the comment

[wiggs]

102. Fine. But another missed opportunity there....

I have no problem with him being careful before committing to censure, wanting to read the censure proposal, etc....he's being responsible, in one sense. But he has to realize what is going to be done with his statements. He has to realize that every time he opens his mouth it should be to TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITY, not to give opportunity to others.

What could have been said: "I believe that this administration has acted in ways that scream for accountability and justice. The interests of the American people are at stake here. I am interested in the idea of censure, at a minimum, as a vehicle to shed light on misdeeds and I'll wait to comment on the censure resolution itself until I have a chance to hear my good friend Senator Feingold present the text and details. This is a very important issue."

This is unifying for dems and critical of the administration at the same time...as opposed to divisive and gray. Here we are talking about censuring the president and we get a wet blanket statement. Again, he is simultaneously CORRECT and NOT HELPFUL.

[Rex]

115. Study is codeword for scared.

Be a man, stop being indecisive and bury that fellow bonesman!

[bigtree]

121. stop believing the media

his office says he's on board.

Call and ask: 1-888-355-3588

or directly at 1-202-224-2742

[Rex]

161. Okay, I will take your word on it.

He's on board. Good.

[zulchzulu]

119. Let him read the thing before you bash him, ferchrissakes

Would you make a decision without reading the document that the decision is based on first?

I certainly hope he agrees, but in the light that a reporter comes up to him and asks if he will support something he hasn't seen yet, should he have said anything else except maybe he wants to see it first?

How quickly the Kerry bashers come out like deranged rats ready to eat their own...

[bigtree]

120. call him

call his office zulch

[zulchzulu]

125. Just called the office and...

...a staffer said that...

Kerry supports it!

[phone]

[Canuckistanian]

126. President breaks law - Senate censures President

What is there to study? I think any grade-school kid could understand this.

[Catchawave]

130. Totally agree with that canuck !

JK needs to check in with the DU more often, all the info and details were here minutes after he appeared on George Steph's show. No excuse for not knowing, and it's quite simple really, as you so eloquently stated :D

[Canuckistanian]

132. Thanks

It appears now that Kerry will support. Excellent news.

[zulchzulu]

127. To all the Kerry bashers so eager to attack Kerry...

I called the DC office and a staffer said they support the censure. A press release will be forthcoming.

All I can say to you people so willing to bash someone on our side is to apologize if you have any semblance of respectable character in you... we'll see who of you are worthy of admitting a mistake or drinking the MSM Koolaid...

[politicasista]

129. Thanks zulchzulu

:yourock:

[stepnw1f]

158. Thank You

it'll be interesting to see if one does apologize. I hope so...

[WildEyedLiberal]

160. They won't

They're just like freepers. They come in, spread their lies and division and confusion, and then abandon the thread when it becomes apparent that they can no longer credibily sustain their attacks. Cowards and liars all.

[stepnw1f]

165. Yup...

[ladjf]

167. Read my response on this thread and you will see that you

have misstated the truth.

I'm no coward or liar.

[ladjf]

170. I would be very pleased to see Kerry produce his statement

supporting the general premise of Feingold's resolution. But, if he does, I will offer no apology as none was warranted. Had he wanted to lead the Democrats, he should have done so today, not wait to find out which way the wind is blowing. In the only polls I've seen today, the people on the INTERNET have voted between 75% and 85% in favor of the resolution. That's support at this point.
If Kerry comes out in a couple of days in support, it's weaker than if he did it today. He could have ready the very important resolution yesterday had he desired to do so.


Many of us aren't fans of Kerry. We voice our criticism when we feel it is deserved. You and other Kerry supporters have the habit of launching vicious attacks against fellow DU's, who are doing their best to participate in the political dialog. It would be better if you and the other sycophants would focus on professional politicians and political issue rather than trying to make your fellow bloggers appear to be wrong.

[zulchzulu]

175. Talk about launching vicious attacks, based on bullshit

I know it must be hard for you to admit defeat. I personally called Kerry's office and was told by a staffer that Kerry is for Feingold's censure.

Read this. Kerry is for censure. Get it?

[jbnow]

181. Kerry is the only one

giving the word he'd support it and this was before Feingold spoke. Public statement or not, every other office was saying "no position yet" when called. So if you dislike him for not being faster, you have no Dem in the Senate to like at all except Feingold.

[stepnw1f]

186. Bullshit to you too

[ladjf]

166. I will feel much better about this Kerry issue when I hear from

him that he supports at least the premise of Feingold's resolution. Your idea that many of us are
anxious to attack Kerry is not correct, at least it isn't for me. Kerry is one of the most influential Democrats. Feingold's attack is a carefully planned strike at the heart of the Bush administration's corruption. It was a bold an dangerous, for him, move. But, it was a good move.
He needs all the support he can get. The last thing we need is for one of our top leaders to make a public statement, if the news article is true, that would clearly indicate his lack of enthusiasm for the resolution. If he did say that and sticks to that, the resolution is DEAD, shot down before it hardly got off the ground.

Bush and company have almost completed a COUP D'ETAT by using every illegal tactic they could think of. It's time for some politicians to start fighting back. The politicians who are brave enough to move in on Bush must be supported for there to be any chance of launching a success ul
counter coup.

Per sonly, I don't have a very high regard for Kerry although I voted for him and would do so again. He hasn't, in my opinion, shown much courage and imagination since the time he was nominated. I don't think his luke warm style is going to unseat the Republicans. But, what do I know? No more than the rest of the Amer can people who have been denied the real truth for several years. We are all just guessing as to what might be the best winning strategy.

[Ksec]

168. Hes dangling the bait for us

He wants to hear from people so hes pretending he hasnt made his mind up.

There is no doubt he will vote for censure imo. Only if the Dems go back to being nutless will they lose on this issue.

Repukes are gonna say we are pro terrorist, and thats laughable. If we allow their empty political threats to color this vote we deserve to lose.

Show some balls Democrats. Courage will get us back in the WH. Cowards will assure we lose again.

[helderheid]

171. Let's give him his wish!

[Ksec]

172. here ya go.

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.html

I wrote him.

[helderheid]

173. EXCELLENT!

:yourock: !! Perhaps you should start a separate thread action alert!

[NoodleyAppendage]

174. COWARD.

This is such bullshit. Fuck Kerry.

J

[zulchzulu]

176. Um...Kerry IS FOR CENSURE. Perhaps you didn't know...

Let me see you apologize....

[NoodleyAppendage]

177. Um...no. He has to "study it" some more...waiting until it's safe.

Has Kerry signed onto Feingold's censure? No. And, now he's weaseling out of any tacit support he might have floated earlier today.

J

[ProSense]

178. Safe? More than half the country wants Bush impeached.

A safe bet is impeachment.

[zulchzulu]

180. The Senate can't impeach...that's for Congress...

In case you didn't know...

[ProSense]

183. I know.

Impeachment begins in the House Judiciary; the Senate performs the trial. The point is impeachment isn't risky now because the majority of the public supports it.

[zulchzulu]

179. Dude, I talked to his office today...you have other proof?

I was told by one of his staffers that he is 100% behind the censure and an announcement is pending. If you're a betting person, I'd be glad to put my money where my mouth is....how about betting $5000? Game?

[NoodleyAppendage]

185. I'll bet that he know that the censure is dead, so supporting it is safe.

Kerry is spineless. How 'bout that STRONG condemnation of the DSM? Anyone see it on camera? No? That's because he refused to make a floor statement.

J

[stepnw1f]

187. "Kerry is Spineless"

Yuh.. okeedokie smokie

[jbnow]

182. No kidding. Kerry's office

was giving that word hours before Feingold spoke. Kerry's office was the only one saying YES.
I feel like I'm in the twilight zone reading this thread.

[jillan]

184. I have heard several people saying that they have heard this from Kerry's

office, that he is going to support the Censure.

:shrug:

Kerry will stand with Russ. Kerry knows that the dems need to do this.

[Nye Bevan]

188. "Of course he should be censured. He lied to the American people and

broke the law".

There, now how difficult was that to say?

:shrug: