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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:21 PM
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"Ex gay" teacher arrested for sex with minors.
The former Summit Christian School teacher arrested last weekend after admitting having sex with a teen boy was enrolled in a controversial "ex-gay" ministry whose adherents believe people can change their sexual preference through the power of Christ.

Love in Action International in Memphis, Tenn., is the oldest and best known of the ministries that try to counsel people away from homosexuality through spirituality. With a mission at the heart of one of the nation's culture wars, it has been praised by Christian conservatives and criticized by gay-rights advocates since its 1973 inception in California.

...

Wade Richards, who became what he called a "poster boy" for the movement after he spent a year and half at Love in Action in the late '90s, finally reconciled himself to being gay. He said the program taught him to communicate better with his parents, for which he is grateful, but he thinks it did him more harm than good because he was racked with guilt and shame.

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Stoffel is charged with four counts of sexual activity with a minor and four counts of battery on a child relating to a 16-year-old student from Wellington Christian School.

Sheriff's detectives are investigating Stoffel's admission that he had sex with a student, beginning when the boy was 14, the arrest report says.


More at -
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-cplove12mar12,0,69284.story?coll=sfla-news-broward
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:22 PM
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1. hypocrites
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:23 PM
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2. Yup, ex-gay is to blame!!
Impetus is one argument...

The fact he poked his pecker into jailbait means he's responsible for doing so. You don't molest children. Ever. Period. It's as simple as that.

As a survivor from 2 different people (the church incident being only assault), I want that fucker to fry.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:24 PM
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3. Oy. I can see where this is heading...
He'll probably now say that he couldn't help it. That he's discovered that homosexuality is a "sickness"
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:25 PM
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4. Apparently, he wasn't an "ex-pedophile" too.
He should go to a bible camp to cure himself of that.





sick fuck.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:39 PM
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10. No, Not a Pedophile
pedophiles by definition go after pre-pubescent victims, 14 is not that
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:44 PM
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15. Close enough.
He started molesting the KID when the KID was 14.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:02 PM
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21. It's Wrong, And There's Another Word For It
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 08:25 PM by Southpawkicker
I don't know what it is, I used to, now I can't find it.

But technically it isn't correct.


Ephebophilia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
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Texacrat Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:13 PM
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25. He's a sex offender
I don't want him living near my schools or parks. Perhaps a special license plate should be in order.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:26 PM
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5. They can't hide from it...
They can try, but they can't. And stupid crap like this is one of the possible results of long-time suppression. IMO.

I can just imagine how much this screwed up the kid.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:27 PM
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6. Sounds like a paedophile confused/misrepresenting his orientation.
A paedophile who's paraphilia is young boys IS NOT A GAY MAN...he's a paedophile.

Seems like the schmuck tried to work the liking same sex part of his paedophilia into his seeking to stop the behaviour via a snake-oil old-age right-wing Christian organization.

His daemons are not his "gayness" because he's not gay.

His daemons are about wanting to have sex with underage boys. That's paedophilia.
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BlackHeart Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:35 PM
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7. You have my curiosity aroused
Why are you saying that it's improper to refer to him as gay?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:37 PM
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8. I would.
There is a difference between adults and children.

And the media and certain stereotype-enforcing institutions prey to that mantra.

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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:41 PM
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13. prey...or pray? (nt)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:42 PM
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14. Possibly both; but my context was meant as 'prey'. as in
'they prey on the weak; the crippled; the invalid...'
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:38 PM
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9. Or, because he repressed and denied his actual orientation he acted out
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 10:39 PM by mondo joe
inappropriately with the most vulnerable person he could target.

A 16 year old isn't simply a "child".
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:41 PM
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12. I am compelled to repress mine. My point being:
You don't see me going after kids, teens, infants, toddlers, anyone deemed vulnerable, anyone deemed healthy, anyone deemed normal, not anybody.


Fry the fucker and save future kids, teens, infants...

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:39 PM
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11. Predators often seek covers like this. What pisses me off is when,...
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 10:40 PM by Just Me
,...individuals or institutions continue to grant cover to these sick mo-fos even after evidence is presented that they're freakin' culpable criminals exploiting others.

*sigh*
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:44 PM
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16. The age of consent in KY is 16...gay, straight and in between
Personally, I don't consider a sixteen year old having sex with a fourteen year old "pedophile" behaviour. Then again, he wasn't sixteen.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:47 PM
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17. What if it was a hetero couple; Mr. 16 got Miss 14 pregnant?
Not just pedophilia there...
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:02 PM
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18. So much for being ex gay I guess.
These people are so full of it.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:04 PM
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19. Another successful testimony from the ex-gay-for-pay
televangelista scam network.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:24 AM
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20. In psychology paedophelia is a paraphilia...
...a moral sexual psychopathology.

Homosexuality is considered to be an orientation.

Paedophiles may identify either same-sex or opposite-sex, but they are not interested in the slightest (except as something to hide behind) in either type of relationship with adults of either gender.

Paedophilia is deviant behaviour towards children, period.

Heterosexuality and homosexuality are both considered an orientation between consenting adults.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:10 PM
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22. You seem to know some details...
...so I'll ask: a prior poster mentioned differing technical terms for pedophiles and for those that go after post-pubescent minors.

Is there such a technical difference?
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:15 PM
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24. Ephebophilia- I Didn't Make It Up
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 08:24 PM by Southpawkicker
So you could have asked me if I was certain.

I can try to find the term.

Edited:correct term

Ephebophilia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:15 PM
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23. Some Research Is Pointing To Pedophilia Being More Like
and orientation as pedophiles don't seem to be attracted to anyone but prepubescent children.

Since there hasn't been a way of predicting who will become a pedophile, we don't have a reliable way of understanding whether pedophilia is truly a paraphilia (a sexual attraction to a particular object or behavior) because we don't know whether a person has always been attracted to children, or if they developed that preference along the way through desensitization and the excitement of breaking taboos, abuse, or some other means.

So to say with absolute certainty that pedophilia isn't an orientation is really only a politically correct statement, and not known fact.
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