Helen Thomas: "Does the President know that he's in violation of ...

[understandinglife]

... international law when he advocates preemptive war? The U.N. Charter, Geneva, Nuremberg. We violate international law when we advocate attacking a country that did not attack us.

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, I would just disagree with your assessment. First of all, preemption is a longstanding principle of American foreign --

Q It's not a long-standing principle with us. It's your principle.

MR. McCLELLAN: Have you asked your question?

Q It's a violation of international law.

MR. McCLELLAN: First of all, let me back up, preemption is a longstanding principle of American foreign policy. It is also part --

Q It's never been.

MR. McCLELLAN: It is also part of an inherent right to self-defense. But what we seek to do is to address issues diplomatically by working with our friends and allies, and working with regional partners. That's what we're doing when it comes to the threat posed by Iran pursuing nuclear weapons. That's what we're doing when it comes to resolving the nuclear issue with North Korea. So we seek diplomatic solutions to confront threats.

And it's important what September 11th taught us --

Q The heavy emphasis of your paper today is war and preemptive war.

MR. McCLELLAN: Can I finish responding to your question, because I think it's important to answer your question. It's a good question and it's a fair question. But first of all, are we supposed to wait until a threat fully materializes and then respond? September 11th --

Q Under international law you have to be attacked first.

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, you're not letting me respond to your question. You have the opportunity to ask your question, and I would like to be able to provide a response so that the American people can hear what our view is. This is not new in terms of our foreign policy. This has been a longstanding principle, the question that you bring up. But again, I'll put the question back to you. Are we supposed to wait until a threat fully materializes before we respond --

Q You had no threat from Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: September 11th taught us --

Q That was not a threat from Iraq.

.....

Link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060316-4.html

No escaping it Scottie. You're the spindude for a pack of war criminals. Guess what that makes you? Get a lawyer Scottie ...


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[MadMaddie]

1. Did I say I adore Helen?

:hug:

[bpilgrim]

82. apparently NOT if our own fuck'n 'OPPOSITION' won't even TELL HIM!!!

reminds me of that other thread... I HATE DINOS... i mean 'LIBERALS' :eyes:

peace

[liveoaktx]

90. VIDEO compilation of Helen's questions at WH Briefing today

Edited out a lot of Scotty Propaganda

[Nothing Without Hope]

98. THANK YOU, LIVEAOAKTX!!!!!

And you, too, for posting on this, UL.

And of course, the indomitable Helen Thomas. I hope I grow up to be an old lady like her.

K & R

[Maraya1969]

92. I love her too. She is all spit and vinegar.

[ginnyinWI]

2. excellent. K&R

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. September 11th taught us

That jr is an asshole. That's all it taught us scotty.

[EFerrari]

15. 9/11 taught us Junior would not keep us safe. nt

[tulsakatz]

31. actually 9/11 taught us that Bush....

....ignores warnings.

Katrina taught us that he doesn't even try to protect us anymore..........

So the next time he makes a speech about how his top priority is protecting Americans.........it's just more BS!!

[fearnobush]

70. Sept 11th taught us that Bush was a co-conspirator.

[EVDebs]

93. Your point is made by the Ptech/GoAgile connection to 9-11 and the WH

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2503075

The more the MSM refuses to cover this, the more it MUST be brought to the public's attention. DU can do this. The major media outlets cannot 'afford' to cross their M/I complex masters (GE/NBC and its war related companies, etc. etc.)

also see where Plamegate, the NSA wiretaps, and 9-11 converge

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2466336

It's all over for the Republicans now. Their ship is sinking.

BTW, please read Robert Parry's article on the Lebanon Hariri 'hit' and the UAE connection

UAE, Port Security & the Hariri Hit
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/022206.html

I just love watching freeper heads explode !

[QuettaKid]

108. speaking of Ptech. check this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x76302

[rfranklin]

28. Exactly which country was it that attacked us on 9/11?

I'm waiting....

[SeattleRob]

4. Helen Rules!

A dying breed - a real journalist who speaks the truth to power!

[WI_DEM]

5. "It's your principle" Tell 'em, Helen--one of the very few reporters

who still has guts.

[fooj]

6. Can't get much clearer than this...

It's not a long-standing principle with us. It's your principle.

Peace.

[arwalden]

7. Go-Hel-en... Go-Hel-en... Go-Hel-en!!!!

[dogday]

8. A Big K&R For Helen!!!! eom

[harpo]

9. I love you Helen :)

[librechik]

10. perfection--thank you , Helen

[C_U_L8R]

11. Scottie is so full of shit

as are his masters.

[napi21]

12. Yes, I watched that exchange today. Scotty was his usual

idiot self! Helen wouldn't let him get away with it!

[blue4barb]

13. Helen! We need more just like you!

[Gregorian]

43. Yes. Please, more like Helen.

Thank you Helen. It hurts to be sane.

[datadiva]

14. If I were a Catholic and Helen Thomas passed away, God Forbid,

I would nominate her for sainthood.

[gatorboy]

16. I wish she was 30 years younger.

She would probably charge the podium and kick the man square in his tiny balls.

[progressivebydesign]

18. I wrote the post below you simultaneously. Great minds think alike n/t

[gatorboy]

121. Hey! Great minds DO think alike!

:) Now let's work on that age regeneration potion so she can give him that swift kick in the nads!

[progressivebydesign]

17. I wish Helen was 25 years old...

.. then she could be around for another 75 years giving these people hell! She's just phenomenal.

[immoderate]

19. The "big lie" principle works for them.

They keep on saying that preemptive war is an American principle and people believe it and repeat it.

They did that with 911 and Saddam. A bit of classical Pavlovian conditioning. Keep showing the twin towers and the image of Saddam, and the association is made in people's minds. Even now, it's hard to break.

--IMM

[Imagevision]

80. Scottie> "No-one in the administration was involved with Plame outing

[EVDebs]

94. Where Plamegate, NSA wiretapping, and 9-11 converge...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2466336

[Canuckistanian]

81. True! Every time they say 9/11, the freepers salivate

They don't even have to ring the bell anymore.

[tulsakatz]

20. diplomacy

These guys wouldn't recognize diplomacy if it came up and bit them on the ass!!!

[Nightjock]

36. LOL

These guys are as inept as the mayor of Amityville in Jaws!

(That was a line from the movie, right? "Hooper" played by Richard Dreyfuss)

[pinto]

21. "Are we supposed to wait until a threat fully materializes?"

When they're up against the wall this vague, jingoistic straw man gets pulled out. Never fails.

I think they stole it from Star Trek..."Are we supposed to wait until the Romulans uncloak?" Hey Scotty, that was a movie.

[Imagevision]

75. If Seior intelligence was allowed to do their job - 9-11 would not happen

If intelligence wasn't "cherry picked" to sell the Iraq war americans and the world wouldn't have bought it!

[Rude Horner]

Can I make a suggestion...

that the first person we clone is Helen Thomas? We need a few dozen of her.

Also, I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of this - the "9/11" drinking game. Everytime Scotty Mcpuffyface says "9/11", take a drink. :beer:

[acmejack]

32. My god man, you can die from that sort of alcohol intake!

An Ethyl Alcohol overdose is not to be trifled with!

[0007]

22. If the milk is sour shoot the fucking cow, 'eh snotty?

"No Scotty McClellan's"

[Mr_Spock]

23. Puffy McMoonface is a lying sycophant moron

How can any human sell their soul so completely to Satan and not realize it?

This is simply unbelievable - I'm just glad that at least one person gets it and refuses to be snowballed....

[file83]

84. BWAAA HAAA hHAAA...."Puffy McMoonface"....

:rofl: That name is perfect for the Lying Secretary. PERFECT! :rofl:

[Sydnie]

24. He has to be related to Baghdad bob!

Beltway Scottie! What a liar! And not a very good one anymore. No one is buying what you are selling Scottie.


I agree. Get a lawyer!

[rfranklin]

25. Send Helen thomas a love letter....

Helen Thomas can be reached at 202-298-6920 or at the e-mail address [e-mail]

[understandinglife]

47. I'm going to send her a link to this thread; I think she'll enjoy it!

Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7

[Marnieworld]

118. That's what I was waiting for

I've written her before and I can't believe it but she writes back. Love and gratitude for her to the nth degree. That woman is a hero! Thanks for the email address.

[lostnfound]

120. I just did. Thank you. nt

[mark11727]

26. OMG, that was just beautiful.

:loveya:

[davidwparker]

27. Dear Hellen: * dosn't know much. Uncle Dick probably didn't tell

him that he's now a war criminal and probably the most hated man in the world.

[doc03]

29. That little fat bastard has to be an ancestor of

General McClellan from the Civil War that just sat back and asked for more and more men but never had the guts to actually fight.

[gademocrat7]

30. Helen Thomas is the only press corps reporter who is not a lapdog.

She has steadfastly asked for the truth. Of course snotty scottie has no idea what the truth is.

[Richard Steele]

33. By NeoCon logic, Pearl Harbor 1941 was totally justifiable.

Japan was waging an unprovoked war of conquest
against the entire Asian world.

The USA remained NEUTRAL, we chose no side.

BUT, as a 'peace-loving' nation, we felt we could not
do any more business with Japan, so we imposed
an embargo against suppliing them with the
steel, rubber, and oil they needed to support
their military forces.

Japan responded with B*SH-Logic:
"You are either WITH us, or AGAINST us".

And so they 'Preemtively DEFENDED' themselves
by bombing Pearl Harbor,
on the grounds that we MIGHT have used those vessels against them someday.

I'm sure everyone here recalls how the
formerly isolationist American Public
rose up as ONE PEOPLE, speaking with ONE VOICE,
and started tossing flowers at the feet of the Japanese.

PEARL HARBOR is the poster child for the
very NOTION of 'preemptive defense';
it is the reason that EVERY major US city today
has a "Fujiyama Square" at the end of "Tojo Avenue".

[rucky]

34. Can we preemptively stop this preemptive war?

we all know where this is going.

[spanone]

35. God Bless You Helen. May you forever be a thorn in their asses.

[ArbustoBuster]

37. If I wasn't already married I would propose to Helen.

That woman is a treasure!

[CrazyOrangeCat]

38. She makes it so easy. She just goes after the truth.

Why is that so fuckin hard for these buttheads half her age?

Grrrrrrrrrr.

[donkeyotay]

39. Scotty McLies-in-his sleep, chief propaganda catapulter

lying his face off. Long-standing - NOT! And Iraq taught us WHY preemption - like the kind Cheney used quail hunting - is not a good idea, let alone a legal one.

Helen rocks! Hurray for Helen!:toast:

[Th1onein]

40. These bastards......sound like two year olds......

Q You had no threat from Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: September 11th taught us --

Q That was not a threat from Iraq.


HEY! I was scared that little Johnny might hit me, because little Joey hit me! Isn't that a threat, Mommy? I scared Mommy! I so scared!

[Catchawave]

41. I love that woman !

Go Helen :loveya:

[Catamount]

42. Quack, quack, quack...as M.Malloy would say! Thanks,U

[Marr]

44. Septimbicus Eleventalus! SEPTIMBICUS ELEVENTALUS!

I swear to god, you can always count on them to try the magic words when they're cornered. They're like fucking Harry Potter.

[Canuckistanian]

51. It magically makes Dem politicians pee their pants

Seems to be very effective. Too bad they slept through their "Defence against the Dark Arts" classes.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

56. not Harry Potter sir!

Harry Potter is a good wizard. He gives Dobsey socks, sir!

Slytherin's, sir. these people's is bad like Malfoy and the Slytherins!



Sorry. Just got done re-reading Harry Potter #4. Gonna watch the movie tonight! :bounce:

[Cooley Hurd]

45. K&R - I was bouncing up and down in my car during that exchange!

:bounce:

[many a good man]

46. They both mean PREVENTIVE war

not preemptive. Preemptive war is allowable under intl law-- it means the missiles are already in the air so you can struck back. Preventive means you attack without imminent danger. That's illegal and that's what we've done in Iraq and and what we're threatening Iran with.

[anarch]

115. yeah, which pretty much amounts to AGGRESSION

which is the mother of all war crimes.

Despite the semantic issues, I'm glad somebody is at least trying to address the fact that the U.S. has been in violation of international law for quite some time.

I'd unfortunately have to say Scotty might be on to something when he says that it's a long-standing policy (or at least the de facto situation), but that doesn't make it right. No previous administration has been so blithe and up-front about their intentions, though. These guys just don't give a damn about the rule of law...international or otherwise.

[graywarrior]

48. That little fucker is worse than Bush

He's the evil villains sidekick who we all want to see get the shit kicked out of him. God, I hate that fat, puffy little piece of crap.

[brer cat]

68. Agree! I want to kick his teeth in..but I restrain myself.

but I still want to steal your duck. lol

[graywarrior]

76. LOL

I've been asked to release him many times.

[Bluebear]

49. September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th

September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th September 11th

[Just Me]

50. Oh, dear Helen. They know. But, they are corporate dictators, so,...

,...they don't care. They've been doing this shit, outside government and U.S. territory, for decades. They are USED to escaping the rule of law. They are IN THE BUSINESS of exploitation without accountability.

[kohodog]

52. 911 (you're gonna die)!! 911 (you're gonna die) !911 (you're gonna die)

ad nausem.

Time to buy a pitch fork. This is getting real ugly.


P.S. Go Helen!!

[texpatriot2004]

53. Helen Thomas is brilliant nm

[ClayZ]

54. Roses for Hellen Thomas!

[stop the bleeding]

55. God I love that lady

[adigal]

57. She interrupts him so he cannot get a soundbite out

She is truly gifted at what she does.

[mzmolly]

58. I could read a book with just her questions to this administration

featured. Many Democrats in office could learn a thing or two from this lady. Helen :yourock:

[berni_mccoy]

59. Every time he tried to invoke 9/11, she nailed him!

AWESOME!

[LynnTheDem]

60. FACT; preemptive war is ILLEGAL. There is NO DOUBT about it.

It is PLAIN and SIMPLE & even the rightwingnuttery should be able to comprehend it;

Preemptive war is ILLEGAL. FACT. PERIOD.

For tons of links to the FACT that preemptive war is ILLEGAL;

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/LynnTheDem/1

[LynnTheDem]

61. In FACT, the indictment of the German Nazi leaders at the 1945-1949

Nuremberg War Crimes Trials was precisely for carrying out preemptive military strikes.

And you know it, Scotty McFibber.

[understandinglife]

78. "On Passing the 'Nuremberg chalice' ..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5568226


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[IndyOp]

110. George W Bush please meet Dr. Otto Ohlendorf...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2518381&mesg_id=2518401

[in_cog_ni_to]

62. Who loves Helen Thomas???

I DO! :loveya: That woman ROCKS!:loveya:

[uppityperson]

67. Me too.

Thank you Helen.

[file83]

85. I Doooooooooooooooooooooo

:loveya:
:loveya: :loveya:
:loveya:

[stillrockin]

63. I heart Helen.

:patriot:

[ContraBass Black]

64. No, he doesn't..

Of course, everyone else in the room does, but they don't care.

[merbex]

65. The text from this briefing between Helen Thomas and the Press

Secretary to the President of the United States should be enshrined in journalism schools/programs across the country

This is how a real journalist does their job

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

66. Good God.

Q Does the President know that he's in violation of international law when he advocates preemptive war? The U.N. Charter, Geneva, Nuremberg. We violate international law when we advocate attacking a country that did not attack us.

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, I would just disagree with your assessment. First of all, preemption is a longstanding principle of American foreign --

Q It's not a long-standing principle with us. It's your principle.

MR. McCLELLAN: Have you asked your question?

Q It's a violation of international law.

MR. McCLELLAN: First of all, let me back up, preemption is a longstanding principle of American foreign policy. It is also part --

Q It's never been.

MR. McCLELLAN: It is also part of an inherent right to self-defense. But what we seek to do is to address issues diplomatically by working with our friends and allies, and working with regional partners. That's what we're doing when it comes to the threat posed by Iran pursuing nuclear weapons. That's what we're doing when it comes to resolving the nuclear issue with North Korea. So we seek diplomatic solutions to confront threats.

And it's important what September 11th taught us --

Q The heavy emphasis of your paper today is war and preemptive war.

MR. McCLELLAN: Can I finish responding to your question, because I think it's important to answer your question. It's a good question and it's a fair question. But first of all, are we supposed to wait until a threat fully materializes and then respond? September 11th --

Q Under international law you have to be attacked first.

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, you're not letting me respond to your question. You have the opportunity to ask your question, and I would like to be able to provide a response so that the American people can hear what our view is. This is not new in terms of our foreign policy. This has been a longstanding principle, the question that you bring up. But again, I'll put the question back to you. Are we supposed to wait until a threat fully materializes before we respond --

Q You had no threat from Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: September 11th taught us --

Q That was not a threat from Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- some important lessons. One important lesson it taught us was that we must confront threats before they fully materialize. That's why we are working to address the threats when it comes to nuclear issues involving Iran and North Korea. That's why we're pursuing diplomatic solutions to those efforts, by working with our friends and allies, by working with regional partners who understand the stakes involved and understand the consequences of failing to confront those threats early, before it's too late.

Q What are the consequences?

MR. McCLELLAN: The consequences of a nuclear armed Iran, they are very serious in terms of stability --

Q Are you warning Iran that it has consequences as you did Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, what has happened with Iran right now is that the matter has been reported to the United Nations Security Council because the regime in Iran has failed to come into compliance with its safeguard obligations, and they continue to engage in enrichment related activity. And we have supported the efforts of the Europeans to resolve this matter diplomatically, but the regime in Iran continues to pursue the wrong course.

They need to change their behavior. They continue to defy the international community. That's why the matter has been reported to the Security Council. We have now entered a new phase of diplomacy. And there are a lot of discussions going on about how to prevent the regime from developing a nuclear weapon capability, or developing nuclear weapons. And that's why those discussions are ongoing.

This is an important issue. It outlines in our national security strategy that this is one of the most serious challenges that we face.

Q Are we threatening Iran with preemptive war?

MR. McCLELLAN: We're trying to resolve this in a diplomatic manner by working with our friends and allies.

Q May I ask you about the timing of the operation in Iraq today? The 101st released a press release calling it the biggest air assault since the invasion on the very same day that the White House released the National Security Strategy, and Hadley gives this major speech. Is there any coordination whatsoever?

MR. McCLELLAN: I just told you this was a decision made by our commanders, so, no.

Q There was no coordination. And is it an intense effort of this administration to show with the press release from the 101st, to call attention to what the U.S. is doing there? Do you think they need to broadcast more effectively what the U.S. is doing in Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: Those are decisions made by the military. You ought to direct those questions to them.

Q So all that is done without consultation with the administration?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's correct.

Q As the same time as you're taking a hard line approach towards Iran on its nuclear program, you're also talking about opening up a dialogue with them on Iraq. What do you --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I don't know about opening up a dialogue. I don't think that's a correct characterization of what we previously said. I mean, our ambassador is authorized to talk with leaders in Iran, but it's to reiterate to them and express our concerns we have about their involvement inside Iraq. Those are concerns that we've expressed publicly, and those are concerns that we are willing to express to them, as well, if they want to discuss the matter.

Q But you are also going to be asking them for some sort of help on Iraq, right?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, we've already made it very clear that we want to see all of Iraq's neighbors play a helpful role as the Iraqi people move forward on building a free, democratic, and peaceful country. And those views have been expressed very clearly. We've expressed concerns about Iran on a number of issues that are separate and apart from the Iraq issue. But when it comes to this issue, we've already previously said that our Ambassador is authorized to speak with Iran for the purpose of expressing our concerns to the regime about their involvement inside Iraq.

Q Is that dialogue going to take place any time soon, or have any attempts been made?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know of any update. I saw the news report earlier today. An Iranian leader expressing a willingness to, "negotiate," I think is what the leaders said. The Iraqi people are the ones who will decide the future of Iraq. And if there are any negotiations to be done with Iraq about Iran's activities inside of the country, then that would be done with the Iraqis.

[The Wielding Truth]

95. OMG, she can see right though them. She's the best!

She doesn't get smoked like those shallow Washington dopes.

[Ranec]

69. You go Helen!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I bet Scott really wants to retire.

[JerseygirlCT]

71. God love her

And when he can't keep up with the tap-dancing, he moves right onto out-right lies.

And she won't let up.

Love that woman.

[burythehatchet]

72. Baghdad Bob ain't got nothin on that worthless

pile of skin

[RazzleDazzle]

73. So it takes a little old lady, ALONE, to stand up and speak the truth

This breaks my heart and enrages me.

WHERE ARE ALL THE REST OF THE MEDIA? WHERE IS CONGRESS?

Why the hell does it take someone who's older than dirt -- bless her soul -- to do this ALONE????? All by herself!!

Thank you, Helen. Again. For the umpty-hundredth time.

Damn, I'm mad.

[file83]

86. Actually, it says a LOT about the FEAR journalists/editors have about

losing access to BushBots in the beltway. Helen Thomas is an institution - she sees through all of this - the younger ones only care about their careers, NOT the journalism. NOT the truth. NOT the tough questions.

It really is pathetic and ultimately it's an indirect form of self-censorship.

[free_belmont]

74. If Democrats in Congress

had 10% of her spine.

[RedOnce]

77. I love this woman!

[mod mom]

79. Damn, I missed the snotty roast today. Helen rocks!

[file83]

83. That's it. I'm adopting Helen Thomas as my grandmother.

:grouphug:

[sellitman]

87. Helen is amazing!

She might be the best journalist we have ...period!

[rman]

88. It's very simple

The war on Iraq is not preemptive by definition of international law.

And they know that, which is why at some point the started calling it "preventative" war. They can call it what they want but under international law it is a war of agression, which is a war crime.

on edit:
Besides that McClellan is correct in saying that the kind of war now conducted in Iraq is longstanding principle of American foreign policy. Greneda, Panama, Laos are just a few examples of use of military force under the pretence that those countries where a threat to "US interests" long before that threat came even close to materializing, (and which arguably could never have materialized in any way).

[bigbrother05]

104. Even Reagan had a (flimsy) reason to hit Grenada

The threat to the US Med students was his excuse. At least he felt compelled to provide some cover for his intentions that they could argue in the court of world opinion.

These bastards don't even try to justify their actions.

[yellowcanine]

89. Helen just reached out and gave Scotty's nuts a squeeze. How do you like

them apples, Scottie?

[vanboggie]

91. Helen, you are one sharp lady

David Gregory shows promise, but kick the rest of the lap dogs out of the room - along with the Repukes and DINO's in Congress. They don't deserve to be with real American journalists. You have my utmost respect. Too bad we are living in the Twilight Zone where you only receive Puffy McMoonface's drivel in response.

[KAT119]

96. Thank you Heroine Helen-hugs & great gratitude to you for your courage!

[Occulus]

97. We need to treat these as interrogations, not conferences

and pre-establish a new, very public body of evidence.

[burrowowl]

99. I LOVE HELEN!

May she stay with us a long time!

[autorank]

100. I'm thinking of a word....."disection".....yeah, that's it. Damn good job

Helen. You've taken many down but these guys need to stay down.

I love this. What a smack down, scolding, and spanking all rolled into one.

Thanks UL, U made my day, which would be Friday.

:hi:

PS. I like the take no prisioners approach.

[renate]

101. I love the kind of people we have on the truth-tellers' side

What a lovely woman.

[Kurovski]

102. Answer the question scottie! It's your job!

And you better start treating seniors with a more respectful tone...punk! :mad:

[Swamp Rat]

103. kick and recommended n/t

[malaise]

105. Kick again

Helen rocks.

[symbolman]

106. I got to touch Helen once

at the Democratic Primaries in Boston.. we were walking to where they would start to herd you in with the chain link fences and a cab pulled up, and while I was standing there aghast Helen herself got out and started making her way to cover the event.

I basically fell to my knees so she'd notice and she stopped, smiling, and as I reached out she extended her hand as well. I took it and it was like holding a smooth little dove, and that made it all the more meaningfull because I knew that the hand led to the mind that SCREWS THESE GUYS TO THE WALL whenever she opens her mouth..

I told her that I was from Takebackthemedia.com and that we WORSHIPPED her, that they should build a statue of her right there in Boston with all the rest of the patriots who fought for our country.

She is one classy lady.. I didn't want to let her go, but at the same time I didn't want to hold her up from getting the goods on these bastards so I thanked her and bowed to her and patted her hand.

What a sweetheart, I would have carried her on my shoulders into the Convention Hall if she'd have let me.

She's all we have left of real journalism in this country, her and folks like Bill Moyers, etc.

[Hissyspit]

111. LOL

That's a great story, Symbolman. Just imagine what might happen if you shook Judy Miller's hand instead. I shudder to think! :scared:

[JudyM]

112. Great story. Kudos: you spoke for millions of us!

Why aren't there more like her, or even in her ballpark?

Last night I watched fox news just to see what they'd report on. Jessica Simpson turning down Bush's invitation to dinner came up 3 separate times, with the comment that she was doing an event for her plastic surgery for children charity which is nonpartisan ro else she would've jumped on the invitation because she loves shrubbie. They reported twice on this new joint offensive in Iraq, extolling the strategic and technological advances inherent in it. I just was amazed at the whole newscast being so transparently pro-*. how can they call that news?

[Douglas Carpenter]

107. "that old Arab" - as Ann Coulter calls Helen

just cannot resist telling the truth and shaming the devil

[Mnemosyne]

109. Another one for a true American Patriot, Helen Thomas!! n/t

:patriot: :yourock: :loveya: :applause:

[myrna minx]

113. Bless you Helen Thomas!!!

:loveya:

[progmom]

114. My respect and love for Ms Thomas continues to grow.

[happydreams]

116. PASTE his fascist ass Helen!!

She is on fire.

[helderheid]

117. Bless her!

[kiteinthewind]

119. Damn!!! Kick and kick again! Go, Helen!

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[Rex]

122. Yeah September 11th taught us a lot Simple Pimple.

Scotty is a pimple on the fat ass of bureaucracy. His long winded propaganda would put Lil Kim to sleep. I miss Ari the Lair! Now there was a traitorous scumbag worthy of my loathing!

[Jack Rabbit]

123. We need to get our terminology straight

There is nothing wrong with a pre-emptive war. That is a situation where an attack is immanent and the defending country, rahter than wait around for the hostilities to start, strikes first.

The invasion of Iraq was in no way a pre-emtive war. It was a preventive war. A preventive war is one in which there is no immediate threat, just the remote possibility of hostilities breaking out at some indefinite time in the future. That is what Ms. Thomas meant to say; such a war is a violation of the UN Charter the The Hague Agreement.