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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:19 AM Original message |
Feingold Envy. |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have to recommend your outstanding post. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Me too. CALL AGAIN EVERYBODY!! |
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liberalpress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 08:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
96. My Senators are both republicans. I already have their answer |
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Oversea Visitor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Whee |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. Looks like the weak talking point crew has retired for the night |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. I totally agree with what Russ is doing. Let me play devils advocate: |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It would make him look weak and vulnerable. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. The polls, or rather public opinion, is what it should be about. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I have also had deep contemplations regarding this statement. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I think Russ is aware of this monster. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Well, I for one, know that Russ must have Benjamin Franklin in mind. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
65. Schoepehauer's 3 Phases of Truth comes to mind also ! |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
90. Thanks so much for the link to Lapham's article! ....n/t |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
126. Yes, I forgot to thank you. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
100. Two... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
108. Congress allowed this fiasco with the two AUMFs |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. A clarification |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
109. well said username... you've nailed it right on the head.. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Depends on the poll and how it's worded. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Well, thats the problem. I would say that 70% of this country does not |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
105. Nothing will happen as a result? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
6. kick and recommended!!! |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
74. Or |
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APPLE314 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. AMEN N/T |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. Today's Democratic motto - "just sit dow, shut up and take it" Be polite |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
101. Time for Ted! You are the winning post! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
9. Hammer, meet nail |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's not just democrats. Last week republicans were trying to distance |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Or something worse. Perhaps they fear the CIC/executive branch will stand |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Well, |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. Both Conyers and Feingold have taken courageous stands on,... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Speaking truth to power, be assured that even if you stand alone |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. Good analysis of the talking points |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. Great post |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
21. You left out - Feingold attacking other Dems publicly |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Concrete matters? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Yet again, Feingold was right. Publicly right... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yes, someone must stand up for cowardice. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. So, double standards are the new standard of Feingold supporters? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Free speech, you can say what you want. Just don't expect everyone to |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. See the responses to this thread |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Let me say: |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't get the double-standard. Really, I don't. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I was referring to the idea that Feingold is allowed to publicly bash |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Oh, OK. I didn't quite make the proper connection there. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
102. Don't you think we might consider the REASON |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
115. Again, very well put. |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. With all due respect... |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Heh. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. "Cowards".. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 06:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
93. NObody? Thanks for Boxer, Harkin, Murtha, Conyers, Kucinich |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
94. Yes Feingold gets a pass: Time and again. DSM, Alito - next, Kempthorne? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #62 |
98. "(with only brief flashes of good)" |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
116. Do you disagree that the Dems are acting like Cowards? |
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jane_pippin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Here's what he had to say about calling them out: |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Well, if that's his rationalization, |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. Can we get a copy of that list? |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #78 |
95. There was no "vote for war". |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Correct. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Here's a list for you |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Ah, yes. The "We Were Misled" defense. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Maybe you should tell these people they are wasting there time |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #106 |
125. ??????? |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Ah, so Bush's lies are irrelevant? Just because you and Clooney |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
124. Outrageous! |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
118. Thank you for the transcript, very on point .. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
113. cognitive dissonance and false dichotemy |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
23. It's a sad day when doing the right thing is considered "grand standing" |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. Thanks, absolutely! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. holding bush accountable is CLEARLY not on these Dem's minds |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
29. At least he made a stand |
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Trevelyan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R Excellent! We keep asking why the Dems Don't DO Something before we |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. 70% of Democrats Support Censure - 48% All Adult Voters Support Censure |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well, according to certain people here |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. I really don't think this post is fair, at all |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. When did I insult Kerry? |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I think all we disagree on |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. Thank you, JohnnyCougar!! I couldn't agree more!!! |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
45. Impeachment points - most are transferable to censure |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. May I ask an explanation why those like me who are FOR censure are |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I don't think so, how many times has he said "first step" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. He said censure and MOVE ON - he's not FOR impeachment. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I don't agree, he said "at this point" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. He SAID censure and MOVE ON - impeachment is wrong in a time of war. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
121. Maybe because Feingold knows that Impeachment Will Never Happen? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
51. Feingold said exactly the opposite: impeachment is bad for the country |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Why didn't you bold this? - "certainly at this point" - that is important |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. I forgot to bold this |
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antigone382 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
120. "If the president changes course" is the key phrase for me here |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
52. check in here to cheer RUSS |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Stand up for Russ!! Woot! Woot! Woot!! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's also a bit disingenuous when one of the longest threads |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Kerry has been around longer- easier to find something to bash him for |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. This time though - it was a new thing- backing Feingold |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. some still carry a grudge against Kerry-- which is why |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. He has my support |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Yawn. Dem bashing is so tiresome n/t |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Because I support all Democrats |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Oh wait... |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. if you don't support Bush |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Are you sure you mean me? |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Really? |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Lieberman is not a Democrat |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Wow... |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. except for Kerry |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Not really... |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. if you must know |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Zell.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:20 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Deleted sub-thread |
Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 06:36 AM Response to Reply #64 |
92. You support Lieberman over Kerry? Good for you |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
107. Lieberman is not a Democrat |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. No chance? Surely you jest. |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Lieberman is a Democrat |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
70. I know, Johnny. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thank you!!! I got tired of being labelled a freep for supporting Feingold |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-17-06 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
85. Feingold has stated he was concerned about his strategy being "blunted"... |
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msgadget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 03:40 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. His independence IS a problem for them, whoever 'they' are |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
89. Lots and lots of very dry powder |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
103. During Times Of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth Becomes |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
110. You are wrong on #'s 1 and 2...and correct on # 3 IMO... |
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free_belmont (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. which Democrat do you think |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. Another straw man...and more Hillary obsession... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
112. I support someone else for 2008 (if he runs).....and I support |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-18-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. Hi Frenchie! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-19-06 04:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Good, Good! |
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