What does bush mean when he says U.S will leave when the job is done...

[butterfly77]

I see bush and his buddies on the talk shows and his worshippers on C-span saying that the troops will leave when the job is done. What does that mean? How will we know? Does it mean after there is no more Iraqis left to run the country? Does it mean when all Iraqis are dead or stop fighting the U.S. Does it mean when he is done stealing all of the oil he can or does it mean once all military bases are transferred from here to over there? What do you think when he makes that statement. Get the job done can mean a lot of things. Has any one heard a reporter or Tweety bitch ask that question yet? tweety is chris matthews for anyone who doesn't know.

[peacebird]

1. When the oil runs out & Halliburton has looted sufficiently to pay Cheney

[Virginia Dare]

2. He doesn't have a friggin' clue. EOM

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. I'd go with that. nt

[uppityperson]

3. Nothing. nt

[MadMaddie]

4. Well he can't answer what he doesn't know....

They have never, ever defined what victory would look like and what the completed job would look that!!

It's changed every three months and has never been fleshed out....If he were a CEO of a company he would have been fired already!!!

[TomInTib]

5. We will just have to trust them to do what is right.

That's our only hope.

[butterfly77]

9. If that is the case ...

then we are ------fill in the blanks.

[Sparkman]

7. When the U.S. multi-nationals tell him he can leave & not a minute sooner.

[RufusEarl]

8. The original plan

The original plan was to put permanent bases in Iraq, i still believe thats what this admin wants to do. But do to the fact the original plan (War with Iraq) was ill conceived to begin with, i believe it's a all political speak now.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. The same thing Nixon meant when he said "Peace with Honor".

Translation: Hope for a miracle if given enough time, money, and bodies.

Didn't work out that way in Vietnam, won't work out that way in Iraq.

[blueknight]

12. it means

we will leave after he gets a majority of dumbass americans to believe we actually accomplished something,besides killing thousands of innocent iraqi's

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. That's what (they) are hoping for. But, it's a vain hope.

Even the dumbass Americans are starting to count the bodies and money lost and seeing that the newest adventure into imperialism smells a lot like the one in SE Asia.

[mdmc]

11. we won't leave until a Hooters opens in the green zone

[butterfly77]

13. What I want to know are details...

what will the situation be on the ground how will the people govern... But these phony ass so called media lackeys are afraid to ask, they are looking at the polls before they respond. They are waiting for bush's numbers to go into single digits.

[stillcool]

14. Talk delivered by William Blum

October 28, 2005, at Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada

Following its bombing of Iraq in 1991, the United States wound up with military bases in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.
Following its bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, the United States wound up with military bases in Kosovo, Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Hungary, Bosnia and Croatia.
Following its bombing of Afghanistan in 2001-2, the United States wound up with military bases in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Yemen and Djibouti.
Following its bombing and invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States wound up with Iraq.
This is not very subtle foreign policy. Certainly not covert. The men who run the American Empire are not easily embarrassed.
And that's the way the empire grows -- a base in every region, ready to be mobilized to put down any threat to imperial rule, real or imagined. Sixty years after World War II ended, the United States still has major bases in Germany and Japan; fifty-two years after the end of the Korean War, tens of thousands of American armed forces continue to be stationed in South Korea.

http://www.killinghope.org/

[BootinUp]

15. Once we have converted them

to Christianity of course. You thought it's be sooner?

Ok, a little bit of sarcasm.

[Lexingtonian]

17. You're talking about a guy who does no actual work

so no, there is no meaning of the kind to the term "the job".

What he means is that he'll keep on trying to get the things he wants there until it's impossible. Supposedly what he personally really wants is an Iraqi leader standing at a podium and thanking him (uh, "the American people") for liberating them from the scourge of humanity Saddam Hussein and proclaiming a new era of corporatism and corruption (wait- "democracy") in the Middle East.

And then a division of pigs will fly by in formation.


Okay, slightly closer to reality, it's easier. Basically, moderate Republicans don't have high standards, but they bought into the 'bring freedom to Iraq' sales point. They'll give up on the Iraq thing when the 'government' there collapses and civil war is all there is. As it is, there are IMHO only two obstacles to that. One, the 'government''s one true function in Iraq is to legitimize the trial and punishment- execution- of Saddam Hussein, and that ends with Hussein's death. Two, there is a requirement for a large magnitude atrocity perpetrated by Shi'ites on Sunnis, retaliatory for the Samarra mosque sacrilege, to burn the last bridges between the two sides. Assassination of Hussein might accomplish both things at the same time. Let me also point out that both things would be very easy for the Iranians to accomplish.... (If you're a Republican strategist, your nightmare is that Iran and bin Laden figure out how easily they can destroy Bush politically now. And do it this summer.)

Oh, there's another angle. More bust-up of the 'Coalition' means extreme peril in foreign diplomacy. If/when the British leave, the 'Coalition' dies and the Bush people have no more political cover or allies in the U.N. Tony Blair's survival as PM is the key link in that game. Oh, and losing Britain means moderate Republicans at home will consider Bush dead meat in international affairs.

I doubt we need to plan for a contingency where Bush gets a viable state in Iraq or keeps the Coalition together. This thing is over.

[RaleighNCDUer]

18. I would love to see that tested.

One day, say, next Thursday, everybody stops shooting at each other and the Iraqi government says "All done. You can leave now."

Anyone think we'd actually leave?

[butterfly77]

19. no that's why they are building the military bases