Did you know there is a christian underground.com?

[QuettaKid]

edit: haven't checked to see how real this is yet....just thought the pic was hilarious!!

[bryant69]

1. A siege mentality

Kind of sad.

I wonder if it is deliberately ripping us off.

Bryant
Check it out -> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[MADem]

2. Because Jesus has told me....

...to beat the living shit out of anyone who thinks my behavior is rude, selfish, annoying or prideful!!!!!!!

[rockymountaindem]

3. That's the thing

Nobody's telling them *not* to pray, we're just asking that they leave those who don't want to participate out of it.

I once read a funny t-shirt that said "as long as there are tests there will be prayer in schools". I was in high school then and I thought that pretty much summed things up.

[QuettaKid]

6. egads. . . .there really is one.

http://www.christian-underground.com/

[Coexist]

21. Did you see their "moral code"?!

http://www.christian-underground.com/moral_code.php
"Right To Life: We believe that every human deserves the right to life—from conception to death—and that we do not have the right to kill unborn children nor to murder the elderly through active euthanasia. We do, however, support the death penalty. The Bible is clear that the government has the responsibility to provide for peace and security for its people. We also believe the government has the power to take the lives of those who murder others and to wage war against our enemies."


... so helping someone end thier life with dignity is sinful, but fry 'em all!!

[wake.up.america]

4. I took a look, first time, last time. Gotta hug my kids and let them..

know what love, tolereance and God is all about.

[Canuckistanian]

5. I got no problem with that

Pray on the toilet for all I care.

But the second it becomes MANDATED prayer, sanctioned by any kind of public official, then I got a BIG problem.

And oooo, isn't he scary-looking? I'm trembling so much I can hardly type this.

[liberal N proud]

10. I agree

One should be allowed to pray when and where they want but the should not be allowed to force their beliefs on me.

[TechBear_Seattle]

17. But you see, that is their point

If anyone, anywhere in the country, is not praying when and as directed by the Talibangelicals, then all Christians are being persecuted.

[mattclearing]

7. LOL.

That's fucking hilarious. Go on, prayerboy, do your worst.

[BlueEyedSon]

8. Do it nice and quiet, to yourself and leave others OUT OF IT!

[MissB]

9. Fine persecution complex they have going.

Somehow I don't think it is as popular as DU. :rofl:

[Atman]

11. Yeah, isn't it called "HELL?"

That ad is just plain stupid. NO ONE, but no one that I have heard of, has tried to deny Christians the right to pray "when they want, where they want." Prayer is personal. Do it all the freakin' time for all I care. Just don't demand that my non-Christian kids have to take part in it, lose class-room while you partake in your rituals, etc, etc.

This is a classic straw man, Christian style.

[highplainsdem]

12. It's real, and paranoid, and illiterate:

From their main page:

Being a Christian in modern America is becoming more and more a dangerous thing. Christians in the workplace, children in our schools, leaders in our community, are penalized (Some times prosecuted) for standing up for their Christian held beliefs.

[SPKrazy]

13. Barf, There's Nothing Christ-Like On That Site

here's the pic from the site




isn't he just the gooberish type who wants to control women's bodies, or what?

[QuettaKid]

15. isin't there something in the bible about

praying in secret and not letting anyone see you do it?

[China_cat]

27. Yes. Matthew 6 verses 5 and 6

[tocqueville]

18. at your own peril ? is that a threat ?

they need catacombs and fish signs on the walls... and arenas... and lions....

[donco6]

36. Hell, even *I* want to put his head in a toilet.

I'd hate to have to clean the toilet afterward, tho.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. pray wherever you want

just dont force me and my loved ones to do it.

[MadHound]

16. OMG talk about a faux persecution complex

From the site:

"I chose this name as a practical reality as well as in a small way a political statement. Being a Christian in modern America is becoming more and more a dangerous thing. Christians in the workplace, children in our schools, leaders in our community, are penalized (Some times prosecuted) for standing up for their Christian held beliefs. This trend is growing faster and faster."

Damn, just damn, that's all I have to say. Who is persecuting these people? Who is denying them their right to pray where ever they want? What, are there Americans who are throwing Christians to the lions?

It is these type of idiots who give Christianity a bad name. They can't peacefully co-exist with non-Christians, for to do so is somehow threatening them, and persecuting them.

Jesus Christ, please, save me from your followers.

[ThoughtCriminal]

19. Jesus would like to comment

Matthew 6:5

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites
are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and
in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.
Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. (KJV)

[Hekate]

24. Someone should definitely post that at their site

Good God. Do these people need lions and colliseums to feel authentic? No Democrat/Progressive/religious liberal/Pagan/or Jew that I know of wants to indulge these freaks in their sado-masochistic fantasies.

Hekate

[Initech]

20. Since when is the majority religion being persecuted?

Huh, did I miss a meeting or something?

[Ian David]

22. Christian Underground: The Creepers

I will masturbate where I want.
School
Work
Street
The Mall
Persecute me at your own peril, for I am relaxed and sticky.
www.Masturbator-underground.com

[MissB]

23. .

:spray:

[Ian David]

34. God Save us from The Christian Underground (Creepers) Dec. 15 2004

God Save us from The Christian Underground (Creepers)
Topic started by IanDB1 on Dec-13-04 09:04 PM (20 replies)
Last modified by Behind the Aegis on Dec-15-04 02:28 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2835064

[Breeze54]

25. YES!!! FUNDIES UNDERGROUND!!

I've read thier websites before but ya have to dig to get there...
it was a while ago and I've since lost the bookmark..

[Saphire]

26. did anyone read their posts?? The very first one has to do with the

Alabama church burnings. Did you know that they are satanists?????? Here is a portion of the article:



Church arsonists tied to Satanism
Source: WorldNetDaily.com
Posted by: admin - 2006-03-12 04:54:49
Registered website members may Click Here to Read Original Article (Will open in new window)
Registered website members may post comments here
>>> Email this Article to a friend <<<

College boys had dark side, dabbled in occult, say friends...................

Cloyd wrote to Moseley last summer, as the two planned a road trip: "Let us defy the very morals of society instilled upon us by our parents, our relatives and of course Jesus."


About the same time, DeBusk and Moseley started dabbling in the occult, according to a report by Religion News Service. They told friends they were Satanists on a hunt for knowledge.

The trio was arrested last Wednesday in connection with a string of church fires in central and west Alabama.



These Creepers ARE creepy.

[atommom]

28. Are they all going to the War on Christians Conference?

News Advisory:

On March 27 - 28, Vision America's The War On Christians Conference will convene at the Omni Shoreham Hotel in Washington, D.C.

The conference is not only the first to address growing attacks on Christians, but will include discussions of every aspect of the War on Christians, including -- Hollywood, the news media, the courts and groups like the ACLU and Anti-Defamation League.

Besides celebrated conservative leaders like Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, Sen. John Cornyn, Phyllis Schlafly, Sen. Sam Brownback and Rep. Tom DeLay, the conference will feature timely and informative panel discussions.

Among the latter is "Jews Confront the War on Christians." Said Vision America President Rick Scarborough: "I am heartened that these Jewish leaders, activists and intellectuals are making common cause with conservative Christians. They understand that attacks on Christians ultimately are attacks on Judeo-Christian morality."

Speaking on the "Jews Confront The War On Christians" panel are Rabbi Aryeh Spero (an Orthodox rabbi from New York City and a champion of traditional values), Michael Howowitz (a Hudson Institute scholar who's spoken out against the persecution of Christians in the Sudan and elsewhere), Joseph Ben Ami (executive director, of the Institute for Canadian Values) and Don Feder (who's both the president of Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation and the communications director of Vision America.) The moderator is Jeff Ballabon of the New York-based Center for Jewish Values.

The War on Christians conference will also present the following panels:

-- The Gay Agenda: America Won't Be Happy

-- The ACLU And Radical Secularism: Driving God From Our Public Life

-- Christian Persecution: Reports From The Frontlines

-- Hollywood: Christians Through A Distorted Lens

-- The News Media: Megaphone For Anti-Faith Values

-- The Judiciary: Overruling God

-- Taking Our Faith To The Ballot Box

For more information on The War On Christians conference (including a schedule with confirmed speakers) go to http://www.visionamerica.us.

[China_cat]

29. I've seen that before

and I've lately been wondering how much of a knot you could put in their knickers if you innocently asked why the traditional meal for the celebration for an orthodox Jew is HAM.

[highplainsdem]

30. Google considers this twit's other "newsletter" website HATE SPEECH.

I didn't know he had another website, first heard of it when I Googled

"christian underground" alain

after seeing he used just his first name as the website admin at Christian Underground, on the page with that website's "moral code."

That search turned up a results page mentioning what Google had said about his other website, alainsnewsletter.com, but I had to search a bit more to find the page there that actually had the reply he got from Google when he had the unbelievable arrogance to ask them last week to include alainsnewsletter.com in Google News.

That page is at

http://www.alainsnewsletter.com/article.php?id=193

and this is the reply he got from Google, re his newsletter site:

Thank you for your note. We've reviewed your site and cannot include it in Google News at this time. While we make an effort to provide a well-rounded perspective on controversial topics by including sites that represent contrasting points of view, we do not include sites that contain hate speech.

Thank you for taking the time to write.

Regards,
The Google Team


Kudos to the Google Team. I don't think a bigot like Alain, demanding to be treated as a serious news source, deserved such apparent civility...but since they were blunt about Alain peddling hate speech, I think their civility was really sarcasm.

[mongo]

47. Damn I've been getting his emails for a while

Finally posted the one I got today to GD.

Made my bood boil.

[Raksha]

31. Do they blog from the catacombs?

Somebody should clue them in to the fact that Christianity is the majority religion in America. Guess they haven't heard about it.

[LostInAnomie]

32. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Mat 5:5

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Romans 12:14

Aww.. but why should I tell them. Surely, devout Christians like them are familiar with those passages and live by them every day.

[terrya]

33. I went there...This is a sample from their "moral code"

Another website of a bunch of fucking bigots.

Homosexuality, Bi-Sexuality, Transgenderism, And Other Deviant Sexual Behaviors: The Bible clearly condemns all sexual behaviors outside of marriage between one man and one woman. Homosexual behavior is explicitly condemned in both the Old and New Testaments as an abomination and a violation of God's standards for sexuality. We oppose the normalization of sodomy as well as cross-dressing and other deviant sexual behaviors in our culture.

[mwooldri]

37. Sorry, not my kind of Christian (from a lapsed Christian's pov).

Old testament, yes I might concede that homosexuality was outlawed, but that's Moses's code. but cross-dressing? I guess the Vatican better correct the monks and the nuns who wear the same kind of clothing - a habit. Some newer religious communities that are more co-ed than they have been in the past make it that the men and the women wear exactly the same kind of clothing.

Besides, I think the Church has better priorities to deal with. Weight Jesus's teachings appropriately, do more about poverty. In all the words in the New Testament about homosexuality, there's one sentence about it and that's ambiguous too.

Mark.

[baby_mouse]

35. I will watch with interest...

...at their attempts to pray during cross-examination.

What's being sold on that site? Are there books? How much do they cost?

[Hissyspit]

38. They use a picture of a white male, of course. n/t

[burythehatchet]

39. Giving voice to the already voiced - Jon Stewart

[jmowreader]

40. Let's start the Atheist Underground

ATHEIST UNDERGROUND
www.atheist-underground.com

YOU CAN PRAY
WHERE YOU WANT
WHEN YOU WANT

SCHOOL - WORK
THE STREET - THE MALL

IT'S A FREE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
WE HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU PRAY ALL DAY LONG.
I DON'T EVEN CARE IF YOU PRAY 24 HOURS A DAY.

BUT IF YOU ATTEMPT TO FORCE ME TO PRAY AGAINST MY WILL
YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY.

GOT IT? GOOD.

Edited to remove description of what will happen...

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. !

:thumbsup: :applause:

[Nikki Stone 1]

42. Have you people been bringing LIONS to Freeper demonstrations again?

All you really need is a condom to scare the hell out of these people. Sheesh!

[Lexingtonian]

43. yeah, it's the usual....

The usual Bibliodolatry, paganized and occultized 'Christianity', and bigotry they pretend justified by ancient Hebrew teachings. IOW, more affirmative action for bigotted white men. (Yes, I'm a white man. And raised Christian.)

I wish they would raise both hands to the sky like their pagan ancestors did when they 'pray', and speak the demands and curses out loud like these ancestors did. That is their true 'tradition' and would be quite the demon-stration of what they really want and believe.

Did I mention that they're invariably losers?

[renate]

44. these people feel empty without a reason to pity themselves

:eyes:

And what's with that "persecute me at your own peril" line? I thought we were supposed to turn the other cheek--or is there a loophole if we're stopped from praying at the mall?
Talk about a TOTALLY nonexistent problem....

[Rocknrule]

45. We own the world, bow to our will or you're persecuting us!

[DFW]

46. I like

the term Talibangelicals.............