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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:06 AM
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Pentagon Reporter: Shock & Awe-type Action May be Coming to Iraq Soon
again.
Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News, who reports on the Pentagon, just told Imus that if things don't calm down in Iraq, US military is considering action such as we saw at the beginning of this Iraq War. He didn't use the words "shock & awe," but that is my impression, reading between the lines of what he was talking about. He did say that troops that came home will be redeployed to Iraq.

Sounds ominous. I think we should write our congressmen because they probably don't know about this latest RumsfailedBush "strategy."
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:07 AM
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1. If they go nuclear
it's ALL over.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:09 AM
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2. Against what?
Our enemies aren't in fortified positions, for god's sake. They are effin insurgents, and are mixed in with the population.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:12 AM
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6. What is an insurgent?
are they Sunnis, Shia, terrorists, or Iraqii civillians who lost family to an American bomb?

We are in a civil war, plain and simple, and unfortunately unless the Democrats nominate someone like Feingold in 2008, we will be there much longer


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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:14 AM
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7. Yes, good points...I suspect it is not target value but the risks
of attacking with ground forces. To me the increased use of air power has its own message...things are getting way too hairy out there.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:19 AM
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12. Exactly, a giant, coordinated, massive attack - on what?
Are there some orphanages left unbombed? Maybe those hospitals are harboring "foreign fighters".

Thay just don't get it, do they?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:09 AM
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3. it worked so well the first time
what would their targets be?

oh yeah, I know, more civillian casulties, that will enamour the people to our way of thinking even more...
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:10 AM
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4. so what cruise-missiles against insurgents ?
that will surely work...
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:12 AM
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5. That shit makes a lot of sense.
Let's bomb the fuck out of downtown Baghdad again.

It makes for better television than all these fucking IEDs going off everywhere.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:14 AM
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8. Back to the slack-jawed yokel strategery
Let's blow up some more shit, Cletus. Blow it up re-e-e-e-e-eal gud!

But at least we aren't firing off million dollar missiles to hit a camel in the butt.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:16 AM
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9. Another redeployment.
When the dam finally breaks there is going to be a rebellion in this country.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:21 AM
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16. There's water coming over the top and bubbling up from the bottom. Cracks.
Lots of cracks. What's that rumbling noise?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:16 AM
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10. I heard that, and sad to say, I think he's right
We have two options--get in there, en masse, kick ass, suffer many casualties, pacify the nation by force of arms, and then force the people at gunpoint to behave as a "democracy," or get the fuck out of there--either by "cuttin' and runnin'" or strategically redeploying.

Seeing as Monkey isn't inclined to the latter options, it is a distinct possibility.

It won't be the massive bombing we saw first time round, though--it'll be massive presence, bodies in the street, house to house, urban warfare, rounding folks up....just the way to win hearts and minds. And seeing as our "allies" over there, the New Iraqi Army, are literally peppered with insurgents, you can imagine what a mess that will be.

The only bright spot is, if we are tied up over there, we'll lack assets to get adventurous with Iran. The flip side of that is, if Iraq gets really nasty, a draft solves the manpower problems vis a vis a Persian incursion....war without end, AMEN.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:19 AM
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13. it can't be "massive presence" when we don't have US armed force mass
unless the Chimp starts a draft and that includes drafting his own girls and his cronies' kids.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:31 AM
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18. Rotate back in the Guard and Reserves who just came back
Then strip the active duty operational and administrative commands of personnel, and leave skeleton forces at the shore establishments. Bring the ships down to minimum manning, and roll those kids out too.

Plus up your installation security for CONUS and overseas by hiring Brinks Rent-a-Cops at these facilities. Increase the rotation pace, and start rolling out plans for a draft. They could be ready to roll in two months.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:17 AM
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11. They're playing by the IndoChina script that Cheney and Rummy wrote..
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 09:22 AM by leveymg
Carpet bomb as you leave. Expand the war geographically to cover your rear as you evacuate the central front. Have the CIA conduct nasty secret wars (Cambodia and Laos, Iran and Syria) so the enemy doesn't think we're a wuss.

Same guys -- Cheney and Rumsfeld -- running this operation as last time. They're the proven experts at punitive military failure. It's still not to late for the UN to indict them for both sets of war crimes, or for Fitz to indict them all.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:20 AM
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14. Impossible. VP Dick just said the situation was improving.
He wouldn't lie, would he?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:21 AM
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15. Yeah, this admin knows that they get credit from their base when they
kill as many Iraqis as they can.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:25 AM
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17. They'll also get the blame for the body bags.
This isn't 2003 - the American people are going to go nuts, the base is going to run and hide. They won't recommit large numbers of ground troops. This is going to be more death from above, not boots back on the ground.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:36 AM
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19. What is there left to bomb? (eom)
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:27 AM
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20. The Genocide by Proxy isn't Proceeding Quickly Enough - Send B52's
Those Iraqi's just won't starve to death fast enough.
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