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Scott the Wise Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:40 AM
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Fascism
Fascism is the view that the state is a living ethical entity unto itself. In other words if there were no people the state would still exist. Fascism can be manifested on the left or right by giving certain living qualities to the state or society. Fascism can easily be detected when phrases (words) automatically assume a negative result and not just a fact. Fascism is at the root in such concepts as:character of the neighborhood,this corporation is the community.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:44 AM
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1. A warm welcome to DU, Scott the Wise.
Your post is timely given the tone of operation in the Bush administration.

Warrantless wire tapping. Abu Ghraib. Furtive energy policies. Rigged elections. And so forth.

Happy to have you among us.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:44 AM
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2. Fascism is a right-wing ideology
It relies on fear, extreme nationalism, race-baiting, and corporatism to control people.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:05 AM
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10. Attributing facism to the left comes from two sources
first, the word "Socialist" in the Nazi party's full name, something they used to lull the unionists and socialists into a sense of security just before they killed them and second, that Stalin called himself a communist, which he so clearly was not.

Mussolini invented the word. Hitler adopted it to a certain extent. Both men set the pattern for the Stupid administration. It's no longer creeping fascism. It's coming at full gallop.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:30 AM
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12. Check out wikipedia-there are wingnuts challenging the fascism entry
due to 'bias'. One even called Roosevelt's New Deal Fascism! :rofl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:34 AM
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13. Just edit them right back!
You too can edit Wikipedia!

Tesha
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:39 AM
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15. here's the link:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:46 AM
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3. not sure if I can group the existence of a neighborhood into fascism
but I am interested in defining fascism and framing the debate regarding facism. Thanks for the OP. :kick:
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Scott the Wise Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:51 AM
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6. My definition
and examples comes from the writings of Mussolini.
I would disagree with those that equate tatics and not suppositions with fascism. Nationalism, fear, and racism can be used by socialists and dictators without being fascist in nature.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:56 AM
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8. so the mere desire for a social collective is based in facism?
according to Mussolini...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:48 AM
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4. Fascism=corporatism
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 09:53 AM by mmonk
Crony capitalism. Ask Mussolini.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:51 AM
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5. Interesting.
Thanks for that perspective.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:51 AM
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7. can you give us an example of when
phrases (words) automatically assume a negative result. I don't understand what you mean.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:58 AM
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9. Mussolini's fascism.
"Mussolini capitalized on fear of a Communist revolution<13>, finding ways to unite Labor and Capital to prevent class war. In 1926 he created the National Council of Corporations, divided into guilds of employers and employees, tasked with managing 22 sectors of the economy."
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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:12 AM
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11. Interesting to correlate this with corporations given legal status..
As "individuals."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:37 AM
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14. That happened in the US well before Mussolini
came to the picture and it is a product of the guilded age
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