the FEC says Abramoff gave NO MONEY to Dems

[LSK]

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml

Type "Abramoff" and search.

I dare anyone to find a Democrat.

Come on troll freeps, try it out. If you dont believe the FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION, then you are a total lost cause.

[sasha031]

1. if only the MSM would say that

but they are hopeless

[Halliburton]

2. anne kornblut started it

then Matthews and Blitzer caught on and starting spreading it like wildfire. now it's common knowledge amongst the elitists.

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. If we had a Liberal media, we would make news of how this crap

was spread.

[doubleplusgood]

3. thanks for the link !

I just made a bet with my right-wing, Fox News watching, O'Reilly-believing father-in-law about Abramhoff. He said JA gave money directly to Dem's...I said not one red cent. My winnings (when he comes back from out-of-town): I get to plaster his car with liberal bumper stickers !

[Straight Shooter]

6. Oooohh.

Which bumper stickers have you chosen? :7

[doubleplusgood]

25. don't know yet...have to look around

I DID get him a new calendar for Xmas, though: Che Guevara posters ! It's hanging up in his bathroom, a little new year's surprise for him when he gets home this weekend.

[MercutioATC]

4. A hypothetical DU poll about the Abramoff issue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2353650

[LSK]

5. FEC Individual donations to Harry Reid

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_ind/S6NV00028/1/A/

No Abramoff.

[NNN0LHI]

7. Why do you hate America?

:P

[demgrrrll]

8. Did anyone read Atrios link to Dean's take down of Blitzer regarding this

issue? Dean does not miss a beat, his is a classic, a masterpiece.
Dean took Blitzer apart like a shot gun.

[stepnw1f]

9. Should This Be added to the Abramoff Research forum?

I'll post it there if you don't. All this info should be in one place regarding Abramoff

[Rainscents]

10. That;s great idea!

[stepnw1f]

11. Added to Abramoff Research Forum (nt)

[Ksec]

12. No Democrat recieved even a nickle from abramoff

Fact.

They are playing guilt by association again. In other words if a tribe that Abramoff scammed donated to a Dem voluntarily then the Dem was recieving money from Abramoffs "freinds and colleagues"

Repeat and repeat again. Dems did NOT receive any money from abramoff. Not a nickel

[rateyes]

13. Wonder how many of the native American tribes....

consider Abramoff their "friend" today?

[Ksec]

14. Not many

The rethugs seem to forget that its different when you force donations from someone than it is if they volunteer you a donation.

The rethugs forced the tribes to give them money or else really bad things could happen to them/

Some of those tribes voluntarily donated to Dems.

In the whacko world...Since both parties recieved money from the tribes then , we are both guilty.

They stole the money and abused it afterwards.

[LSK]

15. anyone have a list of those tribes?

[rateyes]

18. Coushatta is one of them.

Can't remember the other off-hand.

[5thGenDemocrat]

19. The Saginaw Chippewa Tribe of Michigan

And they're pretty much of the opinion (now) that they got jacked by Jack -- but you lay down with dogs and you're going to catch fleas. They were also one of the only tribes (one of three, I think) who donated more to Republicans than Democrats in the last election cycle. It's pretty hard to feel sorry for them.
John
Saginaw, Michigan

[filthyrichkleptocrat]

16. Democrats are immune to political corruption.

We're all virtue, they're all vice.

Therefore, were I elected to congress, I'd have to switch party affiliation because there's no way in hell I'd want to miss out on my fair share of the palm grease.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

20. ???? What the hell did you just say ????

And why do you need grease on your palms?

[filthyrichkleptocrat]

21. "palm grease" refers to cash pressed into anothers palm . . .

during a handshake, or a paper bag, envelope, or briefcase or suitcase full of 100 dollar bills passed under a politicians desk AKA political corruption loot.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

23. I know what palm grease is

I was making a joke about your thinly disguised attempt to mock Democrats. The words in your post, along with your username, paints you as someone who isn't what he seems.

Kleptocrat A government characterized by rampant greed and corruption.

Maybe you're just having a little fun with the whole Abramoff thing, but your post just seems a little fishy is all...

[radwriter0555]

22. That's correct. In this current polluted political climate smeared by GOP

whores, criminals, liars, cheaters, thugs, murderers, rapists, thieves, swindlers, abusers, baby killers and hit men, the Democrats sure as hell look absolutely fantastic when compared to the low life Republicanazis that have polluted, perhaps forever -- think of nuclear waste -- the political landscape of the United States of America.

The GOP brings horrific shame upon this once great nation, and are so steeped in their crimes and corruption that, like the word "Nazi" the word "Republican" will forever be tinged with that lip curling distaste in your mouth, making you ashamed to even say the word "republican" without wretching.

Enjoy that. Thanks a bunch.

[pat_k]

27. The Tribal Councils support Dems because they have done a better job of .

. . .representing tribal interests that also serve our common interests.

Why wouldn't tribes seek to keep these folks in Congress through their contributions? It would be shocking if Dems DIDN’T get substantial contributions from tribal councils or from the Greenberg Traurig lobbyists that represent them.

Even IF the money contributed to individual Dems, the DSCC, or the DCCC can be tied to a recommendation from a member of "Team Abramoff", IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

Abramoff and Scanlon have engaged in some unbelievably dirty dealings, but that does not mean that every action advocated, or every transaction conducted, by a member of "Team Abramoff" was dirty.

The problem is not the contributions per se.

The actions taken by dirty legislators for personal gain are the problem.

Over and over again, Ney, Delay, and their ilk pushed through legislation that funneled our tax dollars into the pockets of their cronies for things that served absolutely no positive public purpose. They were bribed to take such actions and rewarded when the deeds were done.

The Dems have consistently opposed these actions.

It was laughable to see the lemming Republicans trying to wash themselves clean of any cash that had even a hint of Abramoff taint. Try as they might, they can't wash away their corrupt legislative actions.

And Hilary screwed up big time when followed suit!

Reid was absolutely right to reject the notion that there was anything wrong with the $6,500 he received from associates of Greenberg from 1999 through 2004, or the $40,000 various tribal councils contributed during the same period.

As stated by Ernie Stevens, Jr., chairman of the National Indian Gaming Association:

"We don't always agree with Senator Reid, but I think he has been consistent on Indian gaming issues, and I don't think the contributions have changed his posture on any of those issues," Stevens said. "This is all part of the political process and we have a right to participate."

A simple comparison of the initiatives advocated by Dems and those advocated by Repubs puts rest the "both sides" malarkey.

A couple examples I'm aware of on the Democratic side (I'm sure many, many more exist):

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Apology Resolution Introduced; National Congress of American Indians Praises "Meaningful Start"

NCAI President Tex Hall said the United States Apology Resolution, recently introduced in the U.S. Senate, is a "meaningful start for fixing what is wrong for Indian people in this country." Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), who is introduced the legislation, S.J.Res. 19, to the floor of the Senate, along with Senators Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and Christopher Dodd (D-CT), said tribes deserve an apology for what he calls the government's "poor and painful past choices."

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July 2003 Daschle, Johnson Introduce New Indian Trust Reform Legislation

WASHINGTON, DC – Senator Tom Daschle and Senator Tim Johnson today introduced new legislation to address and correct the longstanding problem of mismanagement of the assets and funds held by the United States in trust for federally-recognized Indian tribes and individual American Indians. <more>

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Harkin wrote at least three letters in 2003 pressing the government to release federal money to help the Sac & Fox tribe in his state cope with the temporary closing of its casino due to a tribal dispute, according to Interior Department documents obtained by The Associated Press and records provided by Harkin's office.

Harkin "wrote these letters and worked on this issue because over 1,300 Meskwaki people and Iowans were out of work," Dobson said. "This was a very dire situation for the community."

[Pachamama]

24. OMG! Are you suggesting the MSM is lying to us?

:wow:

:sarcasm:

Sadly, it is precisely what they are doing....and most Americans don't get it...yet...

[IronLionZion]

26. So are you suggesting the corporate media isn't liberal?

No Way!

:sarcasm:

[rumpel]

28. Well DeLay Inc & the GOP have purged the dem lobbyists from K-Street

in the last 10 years, so what do they expect?

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