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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:23 PM
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What past president is similar to bush?
Been watching 'The Presidents' on History channel. Thinking McKinley is closest. He was called puritantical and a friend of the corporates.

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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:24 PM
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1. I would say Nixon, but at least he was competent.
:shrug:
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:47 PM
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23. Dubya makes Nixon look good.
That's how bad he is.



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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:13 PM
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34. ex-president Charles Taylor
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:26 PM
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2. Not one comes close to his level of evil, meanness and total lack
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 03:27 PM by BrklynLiberal
of concern for the future of this country and the world in general.

I do not believe that there has ever been a totally insane person in the White House before.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:31 PM
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13. You and me both.
As you can tell. You get it.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:44 PM
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21. Atticus Finch. My hero.
:loveya:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:19 PM
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36. I agree. He has not given one thought to the future of this country
or what his policies will mean to our children and grandchildren. They will be working for generations to undo the damage that this man has done in just 5 1/2 years. I hate to even think about it.

Bush is concerned with nothing but himself and the grandiose legacy he wants to leave behind. In truth, his legacy will be death and destruction.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:27 PM
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3. ideologically, Reagan started a lot of this crap
also the idea of a "figurehead" president with no skillz and the real policy apparatus elsewhere
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:28 PM
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4. It's a 4-way tie
President Augusto Pinochet
President Jean Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier
President Idi Amin
President Pol Pot
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:29 PM
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7. Now that's not fair....
Bush doesn't eat people like Idi Amin....yet. ;-)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:46 PM
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22. Not that we know of.... yet.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:00 PM
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29. How do you know he doesn't?
There have been a lot of missing white women during the past five years ... I'm just sayin'. :shrug:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:28 PM
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5. Coolidge, Buchanan, & Harding
Coolidge because he took naps and let the economy go to hell and
helped set up the great depression
and Buchanan because he did nothing and but protect the status quo and
let things boil up to the civil war.
Harding because of total corruption (tea pot dome)

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:29 PM
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6. John Adams in the sense he could not deal with criticism.
Adams never consulted anyone when he got an idea in his head.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:31 PM
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9. Wasn't Andrew Johnson the same way?
I remember reading about his long list of vetoes during the reconstruction.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:36 PM
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15. Most of that had to do with racism, but yes he was a singular minded
individual.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:35 PM
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14. But that assumes facts not in evidence.
Namely, that this (p)resident actually gets ideas on his own...:shrug:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:30 PM
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8. No, I won't play this game. W. is unique in being the worst.
Spare me Buchanan, Reagan or even Nixon. Great show on The History Channel, but there is nothing, ever, no matter how much you or any other posters here advocate for them, that a president has even come close to the evil and incompetence of this one. I am into this show, too, as The Masters is in a rain delay.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:31 PM
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12. Advocate?
Where did you get that from?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:36 PM
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16. Advocate for a candidate even close to George W. Bush.
Meant it generally, of course. But I don't want any other president, no matter how incompetent, to stand with the evil that is this president. I know there is no "advocate" here, but I mean any advocate that any president is like this unique one. Not just the worst, because of incompetence or ideology. But the worst, to destroy this nation.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:36 PM
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18. Buchanan through his bungling and Pierce through his mistakes did
much more damage.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:00 PM
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28. Honorably and respectfully disagree, my friend.
The two you name are so tragic. Buchanan, with the death of his fiance in the 1820s. Pierce, as he and Jane watched their only child crushed on his way to his inauguration in a train accident. They were incompetent. Their incompetency is nowhere near the evil - for the first time ever by the presidency - we face. Thank you for posting, and I appreciate the opportunity to disagree.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:38 PM
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19. Understood
Thanks for clearing that up. I was just looking at comparisons, but in far too many respects bush could in no way come close to the men that held office before him.

Thanks :hi:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:55 PM
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25. And I return the respect. Thank you.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:31 PM
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10. Steve Reamer.....
he was the president of our senior class (class of 1968!). He's an alcoholic now, twice divorced living in a one room cabin in Arkansas. A complete idiot. Asshole extraordinaire! Republican through and through. (I came from a VERY Republican Town).

Yep, George Bush compares well with Steve Reamer. They could both fuck up a one car funeral procession. ;)
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:03 PM
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30. That would never have occured to me
:rofl:

Love that!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:31 PM
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11. Woodrow Wilson, one of the most totalitarian presidents we ever had.
He liquidated the anti-war movement and drove it underground. He deported and imprisoned members of the Socialist Party, and this was before the USSR even existed. He set up a propaganda ministry called the "Committee on Public Information," and it helped sell WWI to a weary American public.

Read up on the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. Together, these bills made it virtually a crime to criticize the government in times of war. Thousands of people were arrested for daring to question the authority of the government and the rationale for war.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:36 PM
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17. Nixon, and possibly Reagan too, but especially Nixon. nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:44 PM
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20. Yeah, and got shot and died before he did any damage, plus
he didn't go out of his way to alienate US allies.

Polk started preemptive wars and alienated allies but didn't do as much damage domestically. He failed to put the gummint close to bankruptcy, in other words. He was no friend of Americans, but he didn't throw them in prison without charges.

This asshole we have squatting in Gore's house is one stop shopping for the worst of all presidents. He's done it all. Everything he's done in office has been exactly wrong, better for business and the rich than for you and me. Even that shining jewel in an otherwise shit encrusted crown, the do not call list, is flawed by exempting companies you've used in the past as well as political callers.

Nobody in the past came close to the disaster we have now.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:54 PM
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24. Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson was a fuckwad of the first order. Andrew Jackson sodomized Lady Liberty and passed her on to his friends. Andrew Jackson was not just a bad president, he was an enemy to the American people and a traitor to the Constitution.

See, in 1830, gold was discovered on Indian lands and so the Indian Removal Act was promptly established. The Cherokee, however, operating under the delusion that our nation has a justice system, challenged the government in American courts. It was finally decided by the Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice John Marshall, that the U.S. government was obliged to honor the treaties it had made with the Cherokee and other Indian nations. Yay! Right triumphs over might! The American star shines nobly forth, spilling the light of freedom over all her children, regardless of race or creed!

But hold! Enter that fucker Andrew Jackson, stage left! "John Marshall has made his decision. Let him enforce it now if he can," Jackson spat. And the babyhumping bastardo sent out the militia to round up the Cherokee and march them eight hundred miles, over the Trail of Tears. Twelve thousand people were dispossessed and four thousand died.

http://www.pigdog.org/auto/liberty/link/2220.html

It isn't exactly a history textbook, but this isn't exactly a history class.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:58 PM
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26. Yeah, and then they had the NERVE to name
our beautiful Denali after him. :puke:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:59 PM
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27. Benjamin Harrison...
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 04:11 PM by Cooley Hurd
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bh23.html

- In the Presidential election, Harrison received 100,000 fewer popular votes than Cleveland, but carried the Electoral College 233 to 168. Although Harrison had made no political bargains, his supporters had given innumerable pledges upon his behalf...

- Long before the end of the Harrison Administration, the Treasury surplus had evaporated, and prosperity seemed about to disappear as well. Congressional elections in 1890 went stingingly against the Republicans, and party leaders decided to abandon President Harrison although he had cooperated with Congress on party legislation. Nevertheless, his party renominated him in 1892, but he was defeated by Cleveland.

On edit: Mustn't forget Warren Harding:
- Due to a number of scandals involving others in his administration, after his death Harding gained a reputation as being one of America's least successful presidents. In numerous polls of historians, Harding is ranked as one of the worst.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:07 PM
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31. Do I have to pick a President, I think Kings are the only comparison
Well his first name was George too.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:09 PM
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32. Good old "salt of the earth" Ronald Reagan. Another drooling idiot.
Sold the same bill of goods to the populace as "straight shootin'", "Stand up fer 'murka", "Plain talkin'", half-witted moron, who could be "trusted" because he was a "man of the people".

Translation of all the above:

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:09 PM
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33. How about Millard Fillmore?
Headed a party called the Know-Nothings which pandered to bigots.....
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:15 PM
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35. I'd say the president of Enron--Kenny Lay--is very similar (nt)
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