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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:01 PM Original message |
Sincere question about abortion |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. It seems so obvious to me |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. really you don't know |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, gee whiz, it's not like giving away an extra PUPPY |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. yes it helps a lot, I didn't want to put my thoughts since i'm a man nt |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. even as a man, you can still consider what it would be like to have your |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I never had to make that decision |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. And there are a lot of people who would leap at the chance to |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. One in a million chance |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. I don't understand this argument |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. There is more than one reason to have an abortion. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. There are many reasons that a woman might not want to |
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Proud_Democratt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. Miscommunication between the 2 parties sometimes. |
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ugarte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sure, 9 months of being pregnant is a walk in the f*ing park |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. And also, not to mention |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. You forgot the thrombosed hemorrhoids and throbbing varicose veins. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. and the fact that you start to bond with the baby when you feel it moving |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. saying that she should continue a pregnancy just so other people can |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Even being a Man, I feel it's Her Body, Her Conscience .... |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. well, said, Man, and I agree: women own their own bodies & if a woman |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. And the US is incredibly behind other industrialized nations in |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. I had a friend who died giving birth to her third child |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It's only in the 20th century |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. One aspect to consider |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. I think one reason might be.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. From my experience as an adoptee.. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. The option to go full term was not there for me... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Deleted sub-thread |
oneold1-4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. Someday |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Women Are Not Vending Machines; Babies Are Not Consumer Goods |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. My mother did clerical work for an orphanage back in the 1940s |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
23. Because pregnancy can be dangerous |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Exactly. Some women simply don't want to be pregnant. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. How will I know my adopted baby won't suffer at the hands of the |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I don't understand |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Perhaps a soul doesn't even materialize in a 6-8 week embryo. |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I don't begin |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
29. Hmmmmm |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I can and do seriously argue with people on that POV all the time |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. But Rider |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's their (your?) opinion only |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Root issue |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Root issue |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I disagree |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. no, you really don't. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. "the woman chose to put it inside her" |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. A fetus isn't a person |
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Sawber1001 (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. "technically that fetus cannot sustain it's life" |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. If babies are grown by machines in the future, |
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julialnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. The woman chose to put it inside her? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Unfortunately, I have to agree... |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. If they sincerely believe that abortion is murder... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
37. Uh, maybe it's the NINE MONTHS OF FORCED PREGNANCY |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Not to mention the natural bonding |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
41. In addition to the many good reasons above |
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Iniquitous Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Not every pregnancy is a piece of cake. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
49. Intense, lifelong pain, perhaps? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. What do you tell your other kids when you don't keep |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
53. For the record, I just want to restate that NO woman should be forced to.. |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. how many people you know are lining up to adopt |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-15-06 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. Plus there's the social stigma. |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
61. Because we CHOOSE not to go through the hell of childbirth |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
62. For me, personally |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
63. Well, that's what CHOICE is all about. IMCPO. |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. No offense, steve, but isn't this blatantly obvious? |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. *sigh* I was being cautious since I am a man. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
66. I'm sure you've gotten the message already, Steve. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. I know someone who gave a baby for adoption in 1969. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-16-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. as an adoptive parent, allow me to say |
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