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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:32 PM
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Does anyone here have any evidence Teflon is dangerous?
I had heard of this Lawsuit, and NPR did a story about it today, and It goes on trial Thursday.
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novalib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:33 PM
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1. Ronald Reagan
He was referred to as "The Teflon President".

If that doesn't prove that Teflon is dangerous, I don't know what does!

;-)
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:34 PM
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2. It is known to emit poisonous gasses when heated over 500
NEVER heat a teflon pan without something in it, and never use one in an oven.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:38 PM
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7. Yes, I know the story being told, but I'm looking for the evidence.
There are so many bogus RW law and "Pro-american" groups out there now, that I'd like to see what those who are arguing this are calling evidence.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:42 PM
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13. "The story being told" is supported by research, tests and studies.
Find the studies on line or from the institutes that conducted them.

You are not likely to find them randomly posted here on DU.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:03 PM
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22. You should look down thread, some less confrontational DU members...
...have already posted some very good info, unlike your post.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:22 PM
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25. What's wrong with being confrontational? Huh?
YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 04:49 PM
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26. Oops.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 04:49 PM by The Stranger
Forgot he sarcasm moniker. Oh yeah, and at least I'm not in the middle of the mayhem on the rape threads.

Or am I?
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:36 PM
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3. the guy who sold me my new pots and pans
Said teflon would kill me. I think thats why I pad $700 for a frying pan . . .*sarcasm*
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:37 PM
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4. Nothing that will stick. n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:37 PM
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6. ROFLOL!!!
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:40 PM
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10. Now that is just GOOD COMEDY!
That is too funny!!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:42 PM
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12. You slay me with your rapier wit. LOL -eom
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:45 PM
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18. LOL! I completely forgot all the Punny headline possibilities this case...
...may provide creative writers.

Very good. :evilgrin:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:37 PM
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5. I heard it was dangerous to animals.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:43 PM
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15. Yes, it is deadly to birds
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:40 PM
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8. Here:
http://www.thememoryblog.org/archives/000432.html

EPA Finally Gets on DuPont's Case About Teflon Risks

related Memory Hole page: Internal DuPont Documents on C8

From the Chicago Tribune

EPA charges DuPont hid Teflon's risks

January 18, 2005

By Michael Hawthorne Tribune staff reporter

More than 50 years after DuPont started producing Teflon near this Ohio River town, federal officials are accusing the company of hiding information suggesting that a chemical used to make the popular stick- and stain-resistant coating might cause cancer, birth defects and other ailments.

Environmental regulators are particularly alarmed because scientists are finding perfluorooctanoic acid, or PFOA, in the blood of people worldwide, and it takes years for the chemical to leave the body. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reported last week that exposure even to low levels of PFOA could be harmful.

With virtually no government oversight, PFOA has been used since the early 1950s in the manufacture of non-stick cookware, rain-repellent clothing and hundreds of other products. The EPA says at this point there is no reason for consumers to stop using those items. But so many unresolved questions remain about PFOA that the agency is asking an outside panel of experts to assess the risks.

more...
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:41 PM
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11. google.com would answer the OP's question.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:45 PM
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19. I know, but if I
know where to find something easily, I don't mind providing the info. :)
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:49 PM
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21. Yes, but here you usually don't have to go through thousands of...
...bogus and RW crap hits that Google pulls up.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:04 PM
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23. I don't think it's thousands, and with experience, one learns to spot it
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 01:05 PM by lindisfarne
and filter it out pretty quickly -- valuable skills to learn for any search. Plus, by reading through several (or more) accurate sites, you get a broader view of the issue. 15-30 minutes should be quite adequate, unless your searching skills are not well developed (in which case, the exercise and time spent would be extremely valuable).

DU isn't immune to biased answers, either. I'd at least do the search first, then post saying this is what I understand, from these websites; any one have alternative opinions?

And, by going through websites, you just might learn other things somewhat tangential to the original issue but pertinent, for example, to your concerns about your health.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:40 PM
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9. There is a MAJOR body of high-quality work
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 01:07 PM by Pigwidgeon
Edited to add "PFOA" to search key list

Key your search on PTFE PFOA Teflon xenoestrogen(-ic) carcinogen(-ic) teratogen(-ic). You may want to group them in groups of two or three at the most, and those will return only a smallish number of studies (under 500 in each search). Searching on most or all of the words at once returns a dozen, or even zero, hits.

This is a very tightly focused area of research, but it will be a very productive search.

PTFE is the chemical abbreviation for Teflon, Teflon-like compounds, and their byproducts. PFOA is a major chemical precursor.

--p!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:10 PM
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27. Question: Why do I see two "Edited to" lines in your post? Is that...
...some sort of a new feature?

If for some odd reason you can't see it, under the red
"Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 02:07 PM by Pigwidgeon,"

you also have a second red line that says,
"Edited to add "PFOA" to search key list"

What's the deal? Is that new? Who and why did/do you do that?

Oh, and thanks for the info, your's was some of the most useful info posted.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:35 PM
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30. The second line is mine
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 06:36 PM by Pigwidgeon
Edited just to show off.

The second line -- "Edited to add "PFOA" to search key list" -- describes what I did.

The tag is <font color=red size=1>Your Text Here</font> only use square brackets instead.

--p!
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arissa Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:43 PM
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14. There's a lot of evidence out there
Bird deaths from home-cooking on teflon/wild bird deaths near cookware manufacturing facilities:
http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon/toxictemps.php
(plenty more links at google)

EPA fines DuPont for not disclosing dangers of teflon component:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/dupont121605.cfm

Judge finds that teflon chemical is toxic, finds in favor of people living down-river from DuPont plant:
http://libpub.dispatch.com/cgi-bin/documentv1?DBLIST=cd03&DOCNUM=19992&TERMV=10688:1:10689:1:26030:1:26031:1:26079:1:26080:1:36341:1:36342:1:66918:1:66919:1:67042:1:67043:1:77296:1:77297:1:92698:1:92699:1:


The links go on and on if you just spend some time on google.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:44 PM
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16. Definitely lethal to a cheating husband
when applied to the cranium by the cheated wife! :-)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:12 PM
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29. Cast iron works MUCH better.
One hit- no shit.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:45 PM
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17. From what I understand, it is when the Teflon becomes flaky, chipped off
and gets in your food.

To circumvent this possibility, I never use metal utensils on Teflon, and I never put it in the dishwasher, (wash by hand).
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:47 PM
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20. I'll tell you this
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 12:48 PM by Ecumenist
My mother was told that her Macaw should not be anywhere near the kitchen, (as a matter of fact, not even in the house), when she used her teflon coated pans. Apparently, they give off poisonous fumes, especially dangerous to birds.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:37 PM
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24. The Teflon PRESIDENT is dangerous
nt
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:14 PM
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28. For Typical Average Normal Personal Usage? No. You're Fine, Don't Sweat
it :)

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