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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:03 AM
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MSNBC’s Shuster: Signs Point To Rove Indictment
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 11:37 AM by cal04
Last night, MSNBC's David Shuster took a look at recent court filings by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and suggests that Karl Rove is likely to be indicted. Watch it:


Three key points made by Shuster:

1. The latest court documents, for the first time, name Rove as a subject of the investigation.

2. The court documents go out of their way to say that Rove will not be called as a witness in Scooter Libby's trial, even though Rove is a key part of the narrative. Shuster notes that this is done when prosecutors want to "leave open the possibility of later charging that particular subject in a separate case."

3. Rove is referred in court documents as "Official A." Shuster says "in every single case we have found, Keith, that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald when he designates somebody as Official A in an indictment, that person eventually does get indicted themselves."

more
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/21/msnbcs-shuster-signs-point-to-rove-indictment/

video
http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/shuster1.320.240.mov
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:05 AM
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1. Rub hands in glee
:evilgrin: :bounce:
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ZanZaBar Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:06 AM
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2. Rove reminds me of the pigs in Animal Farm...
In more than one way.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:26 AM
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8. very funny. n/t
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:06 AM
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If it does happen, it will be a sweet day.
I think DU will crash from all the traffic.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:36 AM
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12. very very sweet.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:06 AM
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3. Fitzgerald told Grand Jury that Rove Lied 8/9 times to investigators.
I posted this yeesterdy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x983084

...hu Apr-20-06 09:53 PM
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Fitzgerald told Grand Jury that Rove Lied 8/9 times to investigators.

Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 09:57 PM by rodeodance

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006Z.shtml

Grand Jury Hears Evidence Against Rove
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Thursday 20 April 2006

> ...... Fitzgerald told the grand jury that Rove lied to investigators and the prosecutor eight out of the nine times he was questioned about the leak and also tried to cover-up his role in disseminating Plame Wilson's CIA status to at least two reporters.
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> Rove's story began to unravel when Fitzgerald discovered the existence of an email Rove sent to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley after he spoke with Cooper on July 11, 2003.
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> Rove did not disclose the existence of the email during his first two appearances before the grand jury. Rove testified that he found out about Plame Wilson after her identity was disclosed in several news stories.
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> "I didn't take the bait," Rove wrote in the email to Hadley immediately following his conversation with Cooper. "Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he's got a welfare reform story coming. When he finished his brief heads-up he immediately launched into Niger. Isn't this damaging? Hasn't the president been hurt? I didn't take the bait, but I said if I were him I wouldn't get Time far out in front on this."


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:07 AM
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6. By Jason Leopold
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:06 AM
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4. When their was speculation that he'd be indicted last year
The White House seemed very confused & disorganized... possibly due to Rove being distracted by a possible indictment. I wonder how they will be if Rove has to resign due to the indictment?

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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:06 PM
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16. He'll probably control things from behind the scenes
but even now with Karl Rove around the job approval ratings hover in the 30's. I think that Rove not being there will make it harder for them to mobalize in 2006, but he won't be absent completely.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:07 AM
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5. I soooo hope he's right... The only thing that is more important to me
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 11:08 AM by converted_democrat
than seeing Rove indicted is Dem majorities in the House and Senate in upcoming 06' elections..

edited for clarity..
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:12 AM
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7. The rearranging of the deck chairs
are preemptive responses to the Fitzgerald investigation. Those to be indicted will not be in the WH. Could be related to the lies told about how scary Iraq was, too.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:28 AM
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9. !!
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:29 AM
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10. Maybe this is why the Rovester was
"unleashed upon the Democrats" aka resigned from his policy position in the WH.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:33 AM
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11. No, I think that was to do what he does best
Fight dirty.

This promises to be a really foul election. Bush is campaigning for his congressional support, for his agenda and (let's hope) even his tenure in office.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:38 AM
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13. W will pardon him.
Like father like son.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:48 AM
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14. Of course Bush will pardon everyone in his administration
Just like Poppy Bush did.

Nobody will spend time in jail. But we can get a lot of good PR value out of the process until the pardons come through. Bush is going to loose his last shreds of perceived integrity.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:59 AM
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15. Fitzgerald works slow. Maybe the new President will pardon Rove.
After they end our involvement in Iraq.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:44 PM
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17. He can't pardon them if he's impeached
I have a theory that he's waiting for the last possible moment to issue the pardons. As in, during the impeachment trail. If nobody is convicted by then he's SOL.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:46 PM
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18. does anyone here think bush will ask for rove to resign. something
in my gut says they will try and hide it.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:47 PM
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19. I'll believe he's out when they make him hand in the remote control
for Bush.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:49 PM
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20. I have this image...
Fitz turning Rove on a spit, over a bed of glowing coals...turning S L O W L Y...

ah!
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