Can we Just Get Smart About the NSA Spying?

[TNOE]

Of course we have to keep it simple for the Right Wingers - but in response to their "well if you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care" and "the terrorists are trying to kill us all" and getting into their semetics (spelled wrong?) and how what Bush is doing is "not really" illegal - maybe we can give them a one-answer response:

If Bush had read his 8/2001 PDF Briefing - we wouldn't have had the attack and we wouldn't need to be spied on.

And then back it up with detail if necessary. Let's quit playing their game. The dumbing down of America is in full force now with this dumass pResident. If Terrorism is such a threat and we need to "remember" and "learn" from 9/11 - if its that damn important - why did Bush NOT want a commission to investigate it - and WHY did Bush & Cheney refuse to testify under oath.

I just don't know how much more blatent it gets. Talk about not connecting the dots - people can't add 1+2=3

(From the 9/11 DU September 11 Forum - Paul Thompson's Timeline)

May 15, 2002: For the first time, the White House admits that Bush was warned about bin Laden hijacking aircraft and wanting to attack the US in Aug 2001. It is unclear why they waited eight months to reveal this. The Press Secretary states that while Bush had been warned of possible hijackings, "the president did not receive information about the use of airplanes as missiles by suicide bombers." Yet the August memo left little doubt that the hijacked airliners were intended for use as missiles and that US targets were intended.

May 16, 2002: Congressional committee members investigating 911 say there is far more damaging information that has not yet been disclosed. “We've just scratched the surface,” said Senator Richard Shelby, ranking Republican member of the Senate intelligence committee.

May 23, 2002: President Bush says he is opposed to establishing a special, independent commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before 911.

May 30, 2002: FBI Agent Robert Wright formally accuses the FBI of deliberately curtailing investigations that might have prevented 911. He is under threat of retribution if he talks to members of Congress about what he knows. He also accuses the agency of shutting down his 1998 criminal probe into alleged terrorist-training camps in Chicago and Kansas City. Wright has written a book, but the agency won't let him publish it or even give it to anyone.


Oct 21, 2002: No more than six of the 19 hijackers were interviewed by US officials before being granted visas. This contradicts the State Department’s claim that 12 had been interviewed. Of 15 hijackers, none filled in the visa documents properly. All 15 of them should have been denied entry to the country. “The system was rigged in their favor from the get-go.” In December 2002, two top Republican senators report that if State Department personnel had merely followed the law in Saudi Arabia, 911 would not have happened.

[Skidmore]

1. Condense all that in to one sentence that replaces

the "they gonna kill us all" scream they do, and it might sell. That's way too many dependent clauses and full stops though.

Added note:

Typical freeper type ---------- Terra Terra (shiny object in one administration hand)--------------Picking your pocket and stealing your civil liberties with the other.

[TNOE]

3. The verbaige is just for documented back-up

But I think we need to push back hard on the fact that Bush HAD the warning in August - a month before and DID NOTHING, NOT ONE THING - and now look at the measures. Maybe some freeps will either shut up or actually have the wherewithal to investigate a little further. The truth is so close to coming out now - so close. I say ram it down their throats.

[Deja Q]

2. My first thought?

[TNOE]

5. HA

Well dammit - I'm so tired of them forming the argument with their bullshit! I'm with Dean and say let's take the gloves off now dammit!

[tridim]

4. It's the Constitution stupid.