Official Alito Hearing Thread - Day 1 – Thread 6

[Sydnie]

Thread 1
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Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x97051#97509

Thread 3

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Thread 4

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Thread 5

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=98574&mesg_id=98574

[sasha031]

1. listen to this guy

he can't give an answer

[sasha031]

2. wife is smrking

he's spinning,

[C_U_L8R]

5. she's a wonderful lie detector

and probably an awful poker player

[Sydnie]

7. and quite the fashionista too!

couldn't resist ... sorry :blush:

[LibDemAlways]

41. She reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's

female persona in "Tootsie" - except he/she was a lot more attractive.

[Sydnie]

44. Yep .. and dressed better!

:rofl: :rofl:

[Sydnie]

3. Kohl asking about bush v Gore n/t

[bettyellen]

4. Refuses to answer if the SC should have got involved in election 2000...

[CottonBear]

8. Here are the Q and A (Bush v. Gore lawsuit)

Sen. Kohl: Was the Supreme Court correct to take this case in the first place?

Alito: ****He's not answering*** ***crickets***

"I really don't know. I really haven't studied this case in the way a judge would."

Sen. Kohl: I want an opinion of the conditions of your heart. ... Were thery correct in taking the case.

Alito: There is the issue of taking the case and how they decided it as well...I really haven't studied it...

:grr:

[bettyellen]

here is the issue of taking the case and how they decided it as well..

and i'm not going to answer you on either issue, no f'ing way.

[CottonBear]

21. Unfuckingbelievable. You'd have to be in a vegetative state

not to have heard about and developed an opinion on the case.

IMHO, they need to hold his feet to the fire on this one.

[Sydnie]

16. I wouldn't think there was a judge in the country that hasn't

taken a look at that, except maybe a traffic judge, since there were no cars involved.

[CottonBear]

24. He's a Federal Appeals Court Judge. Of course he's thought about it

therefore, he must be lying his ass off therefore no SCOTUS judgeship for you, Scalito! :(

[Hawkeye-X]

85. For that refusal, that alone should be a grounds for FILIBUSTER!

PERIOD!

[CottonBear]

121. I'm in toal agreement. Where has he been? Under a rock or is he

an idiot? Either way, it's bad.

[Strawman]

6. What a complete waste of time

This guy is apparently the blankest slate ever. :sarcasm:

Everything he has ever thought will be disregarded when he sits on the court. He can't offer any clue as to what his opinion might be. It doesn't matter what he's ever wrote or ruled. None of it.

[Goblinmonger]

25. Don't forget that Thomas

said he has never thought about Roe v. Wade during his hearing.

[DemonFighterLives]

9. Dewine was pushing the distortions of his record

Noted that it was Sandra Day O'Connor who spoke his words.

[bettyellen]

10. tks for doing this Syd, Viva!

I'll scan the threads later to find out where the must see moments are!
:hi:

[Sydnie]

13. You're very welcome bettyellen!

:hi:

"We listen to the repugs so you don't have to" ;)

[bettyellen]

20. Hey, I'm trying to get a FILLIBUSTER thread going in this Forum....

Pls add some ammo if you got it!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x25890

[Sydnie]

42. bumped it for you bettyellen

didn't add facts .. just my opinion. Hope that helps!

[Sydnie]

11. Dewine up now

He's not a racist, why he's awarded money to black people ... Look here what he did.

:puke:

[DemonFighterLives]

18. On the bottom of the screen it says that he ruled in favor of Vanguard

for xxx,xxx dollars while he held stock. This while Dewine is saying Vanguard had nothing to do with anything.

[tedzbear]

19. Dewine: Why, his maid is a black women for gawds sake.

In fact folks, all of his servants are black!

[izzybeans]

12. Why is cspan.org not showing this?

i'm getting a thing on judicial activism and then a rerun of something else.

[CottonBear]

15. Try this link: (I'm watching online on CSPAN)

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[izzybeans]

22. That worked but I'm not sure why. I was just on that page and got some

different type of hearing. The title is the same however Judicial activism/judician restraint. I guess irony is as irony does.

Thanks. It worked!

[slaveplanet]

17. audio on NPR radio

if your cspan cuts out

[tedzbear]

14. Filibuster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy is a bullshitter.

If the Dems don't fillibuster this nomination than we do have a one party system. It's called the Democratic Republicans.

[bettyellen]

23. write your senator, post your letter here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x25890

[Surya Gayatri]

28. Damn, this DeWine creature

reminds me of personality-challenged asshats I've known. What a rat-face. Like the kid who transforms into a rat in Harry Potter. Eeeeeewwwwwww! SG

[DemonFighterLives]

38. He looks like a young republican clone

Undercutting the precedent of Roe v Wade

[sasha031]

26. if this guy ever got in

the Mullahs would be drooling in envy

[DemonFighterLives]

27. Hundreds of cases- dewhiney voice hundreds of cases

What role in congressional fact finding?
Alito= members of congress and supremes and Executive take an oath to abide by the constitution.
When congress makes findings, they should have respect.

[pberq]

29. 15 year record of troubling decisions

Here's a brief summary from this morning:

http://www.supremecourtwatch.org/insider_scoop/index.aspx

<snip>
"So, up to this point, all we are left with is an unresponsive witness and a fifteen year judicial record of troubling decisions when it comes to protecting individual rights and the interests of the American people."

[oldtime dfl_er]

66. is that a quote from today?

who said it?
(stuck in cube here)

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1097640

[sasha031]

30. yes time to overturn Roe

who is this creep senator?

[Strawman]

32. Wow. He left out Dred Scott!

I'm shocked. Didn't he hear Chimpy on this?

[Sydnie]

36. they are trying to distance themselves from chimpy!

no direct quotes ... gotta get there through the back door.

[Strawman]

39. What about Super Duper Circuit splits?

This is interesting though. Rehnquist is responsible for the decision of the court to take on less cases. I'm guessing Roberts will be the same way.

Posted in wrong spot. But I'll just leave it here.

[Sydnie]

40. Dewine - if you missed him from yesterday

you missed him preaching from the table. I felt like they needed to give an address to send the collection after he was finished. He made Pat Robertson proud yesterday! :puke:

[DemonFighterLives]

49. I missed it but I can visualize it

:rofl:
Pornography on the internets now=
1st amendment shouldn't cover porn, it does not contribute to public debate and degrades women. Judge what do think is it lesser valued speech?
Alito: protecting children from porn on the internets is difficult - applying laws from other medium too the internet.

[Sydnie]

70. You really can't. It was 20 minutes of pounding HIS view of Roe

no questions, just "scientific facts" about heart beats and brain waves. It was just fucking over the edge bat shit crazy!

[Surya Gayatri]

31. Super precedent? Not Super-Duper precedent???

regarding Roe v. Wade? WTF does that mean DeWine? :wtf:

[The Witch]

33. it means he's a prick

i feel sick. i'm going back to randi.

[Sydnie]

35. Alito described it as a

super duper precedent today. but that it wasn't one not that it was. Like laundry detergent in the grocery store, super duper sized.

[sasha031]

37. these sick sick bastards

all the unwanted children should be dropped on their doorsteps, but then again you would never get into the their gated communities

how Dare ignorant cruel white men make personal choices for woman.

[KamaAina]

34. Holy crap! Did that little weasel just compare Roe to Plessy v. Ferguson?!

And right after he said something useful about Garrett v. Alabama, too (first time in his life). Pity.

[Sparkman]

43. "Row is not super precedent, just precident" means overturning is OK. what

do the RWers DuhLito cow-tows to have in it's place...NOTHING. The rich will always get reproductive medical treatment INCLUDING ABORTIONS, if it requires travel to states that retain abortion allowances after a Row defeat. These extremist Royal Families have no conscience, no concern for rape victims, for incest victims or for late term complications UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM.
AND then money will solve their personal family's problems.

[Strawman]

46. Yeah. And the Bill of Rights are just Amendments

Not Super Amendments. Which means they don't count. Except for #2.

[Sydnie]

53. well, number one is so passe, don't you know.

[Sydnie]

48. and money will cover it up too. n/t

[Sparkman]

69. The XII is so not SUPER-P...scotus can handle pesky electioneering.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

45. Did I miss anything?

You guys have been busy!

[Sydnie]

50. You missed Kohl

asking about Bush v Gore. He had no answers though ... surprise!
Glad you're back now.

[CottonBear]

51. You'll have to check out the thread. This guy is a real piece of work.

Now he's talking about porn. If bet wifey-poo is thrilled about that.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

54. I see the camera angle has changed...

it's better, she was distracting. lol

[DemonFighterLives]

60. That's what I was wondering

The smirk is exit stage right.

[Sydnie]

62. Her chair looks empty from this angle

she needed new batteries I guess.

[Surya Gayatri]

61. You'd better believe

it's "hard work" following the 'bat squeeze' spewed out by this DeWine cretin. LOL
SG

[CottonBear]

47. Ruh Roh. Internet Porn questions now. Who is the Senator?

"Porn has no value."

***Speak for yourself***

[Strawman]

52. No thoughts on Bush v. Gore, lots on porn.

[DemonFighterLives]

56. constant conflict of heavy caseload and delegating judicial

responsibility.
Feinstein up.

[CottonBear]

78. Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

:toast: ;) :toast: ;) :toast: ;)

[CottonBear]

55. He blames kids getting porn on the internet and wants to control the net..

I just bet he does...and not because of porn...

I'm sure He'd love to spy on us or control the net like China does

Gah! Argghh! I can't take any more. :(

[Sparkman]

57. Pornography on internet,"NO comment" yada yada! He's not 4 civil liberty

[Viva_La_Revolution]

58. Feinstein up

[Sydnie]

64. It is expected that she will hammer on Roe n/t

[sasha031]

67. yes this is where she stays strong

[Sparkman]

65. Can I have a 0.50 calibre Gattling Gun, mommy, Judge DaLito says its OK.

[Herstal]

94. I'd prefer an M2

[The Witch]

68. So far she's the only one to rattle him seriously

keep it up dianne

[Skidmore]

71. How did she do this?

I needed to attend to something for a few minutes.

[The Witch]

76. she knew as much about the law as he did

and insisted he answer the damn question.

i'd tellyou more but I didn't get it either :)

[Sydnie]

72. He is not used to having to answer to a woman!

Get him Diane. I don't like you too much, but you could help yourself right here. Get him!

[JohnnyRingo]

59. The only way Buxh could have nominated a more perfect ideological

equal would have been to send Laura to law school.
This guy is a better liar, however.

When Kohl asked what he meant by "traditional values" he replied that it was about protection from crime. ....bullshit.

[pberq]

63. What's Lopez?

[Strawman]

81. Major federalism decision by SCOTUS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Lopez

[suffragette]

84. United States v. Rybar

Here's more info:

http://www.dailykos.com/tag/U.S.%20v.%20Lopez

[Strawman]

125. Excellent link

Thanks!

[lavenderdiva]

73. I dunno, maybe its just me.

BUT I have yet to hear this man give a definitive answer to ANYTHING. Am I wrong?

[sasha031]

74. no you are right, he has been taught to spin

[Sydnie]

75. No, you are not wrong

He hasn't.

[Surya Gayatri]

86. Well, he's certainly

"pedalling in the sauerkraut" as the French say--Feinstein seems really to have upset his game plan. Babble, blah, babble, blah. SG

[gkhouston]

88. here's hoping the other Dems take a page from her playbook. n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

90. Go Diane!

I don't like her position on the war--but she's doin' Fein (stein) now! Ha!
SG

[Sydnie]

77. On to Roe now n/t

[fooj]

79. IMO, we should DEMAND definitive answers...

OMG---this is a LIFETIME appointment.

Peace.

[Sparkman]

80. "special justification to overturn Row?"...DuhLito can't think of any !

[Sparkman]

87. evasion, diversion, NO R-v-W ideas! BUT A-ho won't grant Fienstein her Q.

[The Witch]

82. "You're not asking my question. I asked for an example."

She just killed him.

He's now giving a shit answer. "...Um... if it were unworkable..."

Erm, you can't argue that w/Roe. Just the opposite,I'd say.

[CottonBear]

83. Feinstein said he didn't answer her question & mentioned 'super duper"

precedent...She looks mightly pissed off...he said 'I'm sorry...'

[CottonBear]

89. What is the Olmstead rule? She asked 'so...right to privacy?' him: yes.

Did they remove the woman to his right with the shifty eyes as well as the AquaRufgfle wife to the left?

He said he did not equate wife to minor children. Diane seems pissed and totally on target.

[Nimrod2005]

92. Will they kick her out of the Senate if she spits on him right now?

kinda like the Redskins football player last weekend? Because I think she should spit on him...

[CottonBear]

97. I'd like to spit on him but it would really be rude, but still...n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

91. Do you believe that a law against abortion should make considerations

for the life of the mother


it should be a consideration.

[CottonBear]

93. 'Protecting life and health of mother is compelling interest in case law'

Q. What about your memo re: the Akron case being reaffirmed and your strategy to overturn Roe?

A. 'I did not advocate in that memo that Roe be overuled.'

OMG! LIAR! :grr:

[bettyellen]

95. strategy to overturn Roe....

going off on a legalese tangent... wtf is he talking about?

[CottonBear]

96. 'I did not advocate in that memo that Roe be overuled.' LIAR n/t

[The Witch]

98. Dianne is Kicking His Ass.

she's the best so far.

[CottonBear]

99. She's the only woman so far.

Personally, I don't want old white men ruling my body.
Alito is scum of the lowest order.

[Nimrod2005]

102. I feel the same and I am a man........

[bettyellen]

103. NO Fillibuster= No help with the Midterm elections, Dudes!

Fuck these men if they can't stand up with us now. Not a dime, not a phonecall, I swear.

[sasha031]

101. Ted Kennedy is the best

she is doing well also, you got to see Teddy if you haven't

[Sparkman]

105. AND thanking and cajolery...how's it feel to know your being eating alive?

[bettyellen]

100. equating minors rights vs married women's: he's not equating the two....

just making an analogy? WTF?
they have got to cut through this crap already. c'mon diane.
now she's onto FISA, for a moment?

[CottonBear]

108. Re: FISA "Generally there has to be a warrant..."

"Searches can be carried out with out a warrant."

Diane: Wait a minute, do you remember tripartide framework...Justice Jackson...

Alito: There is a question about the meaning of the authorization of military force... (???)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

104. NSA spying now...

Clinton made sure Americans kept rights, Carter did too

Do you think the Pres. can spy on Americans?

[bettyellen]

107. he said "generally" a warrant is needed for a wiretap?

he's stammering.

[CottonBear]

113. How about ALWAYS. n/t

[suffragette]

120. He was "tap" dancing on the 4th Amendment n/t

[Nimrod2005]

116. Here comes another middles aged white man...Who thinks God

loves him and God wants to hear him talk...YUK!!!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Ksec]

106. Alito has always been

a contrarian. He made his name by dissenting from any majority view, even when he was the only dissenter.

He sees a red sign and says its only red on the side you see, and its probably blue undereath the red paint therefor the sign is blue. Thats his way of thinking, a dangerous extreme whacko who cannot be trusted to do whats right. He makes his opinions fit around his ideology. Dangerous.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

109. Sessions now

:puke:

whiney man

[sasha031]

114. can't remember when someone has been more forthcoming

all the those libruls are saying, Gawd I hate crackers

[Surya Gayatri]

110. Feinstein: "You said GENERALLY, there

has to be a warrant for surveillance. Does that mean you foresee exceptions?" The slippery SOB isn't answering. SG

[CottonBear]

119. '(warrant process) is time consuming and burdensome..." n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

123. Yeah, just like

this confirmation process. Let's just give him the ol' rubber stamp. :sarcasm: SG

[The Witch]

111. skipping out to Randi while Sessions goes...

too bad Will Pitt will be competing with a Dem questioning... I have to make a tough decision.

[CottonBear]

112. Sessions: I can't remember a nominee being more forthcoming! OMG!

OMG! He just praised Biden for saying the same thing...

Sessions is an evil little gnome...

[gkhouston]

118. well, it would be nice

if TRUTHFUL, COMPLETE ANSWERS were part of the forthcoming, but if bullshit's good enough for repugs, let 'em swallow it. I ain't buying.

[CottonBear]

124. Yep. He's only forthcoming with total bullshit. n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

115. Thread 7 is up!

[Sydnie]

122. Sorry - GMTA I guess

:hug:

You do it from now on, please. :)

[Sydnie]

117. thread 7 open now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x100612

[pinto]

126. Thread 7 open, link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x100612