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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:08 PM
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GRAPHIC: A US Soldier, a puppy and a cliff in Iraq: You can guess what happens.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 05:24 PM by rjones2818
 
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Don't watch this if you're squeamish.

If you still support the war...perhaps this will change your mind.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:09 PM
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1. Who the fuck WAS that??? n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:10 PM
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2. What the fuck was that???
Oh fuck
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:12 PM
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3. I wonder what the Freeper excuse for that will be
nt
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:14 PM
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4. THAT IS ONE FINE BOY !!!!!
HE IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:20 PM
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5. The wrong creature went off that cliff. n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:22 PM
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6. I have alerted that this MUST have a 'Graphic Warning' on it! You have time to edit. PLEASE.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:30 PM
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7. (thanx, rj, for prompt edit)
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:32 PM
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8. War, and Warlike behavior, creates Insanity.
And the situation in Iraq in Insane. What insanity. This is why we must work for the rest of our lives against insanity.
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DUperMan Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:43 PM
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9. What a POS that guy is.
What a POS that guy is.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:47 PM
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10. Hearts and minds ay?
Sick bastards.
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rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:49 PM
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11. NOOOOO!
That is so effing wrong!
Oh shit I'm crying
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:54 PM
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12. They do the same thing to humans.
Fuck the troops!
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liberal4truth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:18 PM
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32. And just think; some of these fine boys are going to be police officers....
I hope you folks are ready to get the same treatment, if you say one wrong thing to the
"officer", when you get pulled over in your car, in the near future.

We need very strict psychological testing standards for all police officers,
as well as on-going drug testing programs and we need it now!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:29 PM
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36. This is one of the main reasons why I do not trust cops. n/t
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liberal4truth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:42 AM
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39. Nor should you. The old line about power corrupting is very true with police officers ...
in particular.

One need only read the newspapers to see what horrible deed some police
officer or officers did somewhere in the USA, usually under the color of law.

Old saying:

"There is a thin blue line between criminal and cop, and it's often crossed."

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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:02 PM
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13. I know war changes people, BUT
These jackasses are heartless, and I venture to guess they were like this before they got to Iraq. They probably couldn't WAIT to get over there to "kill some towelheads".

Disgusting. That poor pup and any other living being they come in contact with. This is where friendly fire comes from. Bastards.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:09 PM
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14. i wouldnt venture to say
id guarantee it
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:10 PM
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15. I think this is fake
I find it repulsive regardless of whether it is a real puppy or not.

But watch it carefully. That puppy doesn't move while he holds it and there is something odd about the sound it makes.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:17 PM
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16. puppies and cats go limp when you hold them like that
it's a survival mechanism
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:18 PM
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17. a lot of young animals do that
of various sizes
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:19 PM
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18. I noticed that too
you see these fake videos all the time it takes minimal editing skills to create that illusion.

Sadly it is believable and if it's real then they aren't the product of *'s war but war itself. Shit like this has been going on forever. If WWII had YouTube you would've seen a lot worse from people who were supposedly the best & bravest.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:22 PM
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19. My God, I do hope it's fake
but even if it is, how cruel to even contemplate and stage such a thing.
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dothemath Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:51 PM
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38. Despicable pranks not the province of only .........
'warriors'. Some years ago, the oldest daughter of a good
family friend came
home on leave from the Air Force. I had just arrived to visit
and the young woman
was relating a 'funny' story. It seems one young AF married
couple had just had a 
child. From the second floor of their building, a male voice
was heard calling 
down to several other people near the balcony of the
apartment. "Want to see the
new baby"? "Yes, yes, show us the baby!".
Whereupon the owner of the male
voice held up what appeared to be a baby - then tossed it to
the crowd below. 

It turned out to be a doll, but hardly anyone except the moron
on the balcony
was laughing. Personally, I think he should be horsewhipped,
and said so.

Not well received. I haven't spoken to the daughter of the
family friend since,
nor will I ever.

Don't blame the war for the behavior of this newest idiot.
None of the people
in my story had been to war. Just youngsters having a good
time. Macabre and 
sick, to be sure. They are humans, too, I suppose. Sad. 
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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:25 PM
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21. dead dogs don't tuck their tails
n/t
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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:22 PM
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20. Why the hypocrisy?
You do far worse to animals that feel just as much, condemning them to a life as a commodity by eating meat.

Sucks to be crass, but be honest, for an average animal under hominid dominion, this one got off light.

If you really want to get in a huff, consider the effects of what you advocate to the non-cute creatures you don't see on youtube.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:27 PM
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22. F*cking &%$#@!
And that has nothing to do with the war, sociopaths who do that sort of shit exist independent of the military and the war. Those two just happen to be in the military over in Iraq.


Bastards. :grr:

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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:29 PM
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23. I'll bet that son of a bitch soldier.....
.....has parents who are so proud of their son, who is serving his country. I hope what happens to that puppy happens to that bastard. :mad:
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liberal4truth Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 PM
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33. Acctually it is more then likely going to happen to some of us. Most police officers.....
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:22 PM by liberal4truth
are former military personnel.

God help us all when "Johnny comes marching home"!
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:45 PM
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24. I think it's fake
The sound is entirely wrong.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:33 PM
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:31 PM
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26. A couple of observations
What's up w/ the logo in the upper left corner?

The logo could be a hint at where the video came from. Believe it, or not, there are some really sick sites out there that major in taking video and making a couple of edits to make it seem really grim. I can't make out the logo, but it could be telling if we knew the original site the vid came from.

The puppy's yelping ... is that real? Sounds like it's edited in.

Is the puppy even real? I've read the comments and I agree that when you pick up an animal by its scruff they stiffen up like that. Also, dead animals don't usually have their tails between their legs.

I don't know ... the whole thing is twisted and sick, but keep a couple of things in mind here.

The age of the guys, what they're going through, and how many dogs they see everyday.

You might wonder what the hell the later has to do w/ anything. Well, I was stationed in Guam, and there were a lot of wild dogs. They called them Boonie Dogs, and they aren't man's best friend. They don't resemble any kind of domesticated dog and they can't be domesticated, I've seen people try ... they fail. These wild feral dogs show heavy signs of aggression even as puppies. NO, as puppies they can't hurt you, NO you shouldn't hurt them and do EVIL things to them. I am only trying to give people some "possible" insight.

I once saw a video from "down under" of people playing "bunny" baseball. Their fields had been literally overrun with rabbits. They were everywhere ... like insects, like flies. The farmers had their crops eaten and the cute bunnies were no longer even seen as cute at all. They were like rodents and they had to be irradicated. The HUGE task put the farmers and workers over the edge who after a long time resorted to trying to make fun out of a very grim situation. Not cool, but it took place. I don't advocate bunny ball.

When I was stationed in Guam, Boonie Dogs were viewed pretty negatively. They hadn't reached the problem the rabbits had down under, but I don't know how well their young were treated when people came upon them. It can be difficult to have positive feelings about the young of animals who do you harm. In the eyes of the people who have to deal with such feral animals, seeing their young could very well look like a chance to deal with tomorrow's problem today.

On that note ... I DO NOT ADVOCATE "DEALING" WITH THAT PROBLEM THE WAY THAT SOLDIER "DEALT" WITH IT.

Like it or not, if the young of feral dogs have to be put to death, then it should be in a humane way.

No doubt our soldiers have been affected by the "last throws" of war in Iraq.

This is an example of how people discontinue functioning rationally when dealing with a situation like the one in the video. It shows the break down in leadership and how a 'win at all costs' attitude can break a human down to having zero worth associated with life, unless it's keeping your fellow soldiers alive.

Many would tell us that it's war. We're at war for God's sake!

Exactly fuckers ... we're at war. If any us were to have come up w/ what's in this fucking video as what we would see as the mental breakdown of our soldiers as a result of going to war with Iraq. If this was the kind of talk we presented ... we would be told that we're insane. In 2003 we would've been told that we're left liberal crack jobs. Hell, this can't happen! We're gonna go in dat there I-rat-kee place and kill dat fuckin' cee-dam fucker! Dey got it comin' fer what dey did to us in nine-O'leven!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I'd like to kick the fucking shit out of every mother fucker who said that line of fucking shit!!!


Heeeyell, it's not like our guys are chuckin' puppies off cliffs ... haw haw.

Mother fuckers!!!!
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:39 PM
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27. User took it down
The brave youtube user who posted the vid took it down.

Guess he received too much hate mail.

http://www.youtube.com/user/trav10852

Hope he learned something.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:22 PM
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34. He seems
to be a bit homophobic, tossing the word "faggot" around a lot. Makes me wonder if the video was faked.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:54 PM
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28. All Over YouTube Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCiUMoFu84

Just one of many youtube profiles w/ the sick video.

It's also making international news:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/article.html?in_article_id=109377&in_page_id=64

Just what the U.S. needs to be known for ... throwing puppies over cliffs.

If this is fake it needs to be known quick and the ones involved in the real video interviewed, while whoever edited the video is brought to light.

Bottomline, the military should not ignore this and chalk it up to pranksters and youtube drivel.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:06 PM
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30. Interesting observation on the solider
No rank or insignia markings at all on the uniform, which suggests he could be Blackwater or someone who got fatigues from a surplus shop and they weren't even in Iraq, but made the fake video at home.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:26 PM
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35. US soldiers are already known for murdering women and children...
so what's the big deal over a puppy? Do we care more about a puppy than all the innocent people who have been killed in this illegal war? When people care more about the fate of a puppy than the fate of humans, are those people more sick than those that did this to a puppy? I care more about those slaughtered innocent Iraqi people and I am more more horrified that our soldiers can kill them and be ok with that. It's just my opinion that killing puppies is bad but killing innocent humans is far worse.
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VagabondWarrior Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:03 PM
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29. War.
What is it good for?
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:16 PM
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31. video removed from youtube because of TERMS OF USE???
I recon 'throwing puppies off cliffs' violates their terms??
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:46 PM
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37. animal abuse videos
violate their terms of use, I'd imagine.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:29 AM
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40. i doubt that
ive seen some sick videos on youtube involving animals.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:15 PM
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41. Well, it is all over the news Web sites. You can see it at any one of them.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:36 PM
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42. Dont you love how they take the video down BUT
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 01:36 PM by iamthebandfanman
they leave the one up of someone saying its fake!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0xjY-4CMdI
oh the irony.
im gonna hafta stop using youtube. the corporate masters have spoken.
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