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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:49 PM
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THEY'RE MAKING IT ALL UP ABOUT IRAN!!! ~Olbermann
 
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:55 PM
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1. i hope people are listening
i've known it was made up for ages, but i watch c-span and the bullshit keeps being injected into the conversation as if it isn't bullshit. it's very discouraging.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:55 PM
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2. OK, I finally got lucky
I can't do YouTube, but I saw this live this evening. It was great. He glared at the camera, making a certain point.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:00 AM
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3. Why is Keith the only person saying this...
in the MSM? They're doing their best to lie us into another war, and the MSM is just sitting back and letting them get away with it. Looks like a good time to buy GE stock, I'm guessing they're about to get a spike in sales.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:19 AM
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9. GE produces weapon parts and F-16 engines, they’re war profiteers.
They'd make more money pushing for wars.

Sadly MSNBC/GE must feel that KO preaches to the choir, Keith could say anything and only us “loonies” on the left will hear.
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fieldon13 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:07 AM
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4. They are making it up about Iran
I try to catch Countdown everyday because Keith Olbermann is the only voice on television with the heart to stand up to the talking heads that continue to try and feed us the GOP talking points.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:14 AM
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5. Welcome to DU fieldon13!
:toast:
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:01 AM
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6. Welcome to DU ~
aloha.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:01 AM
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11. Welcome to DU. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:29 AM
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12. They can cut off his voice at any time.
The Democratic president must push for an end to media consolidation!
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:29 AM
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7. K&R - I wish this would play on every media outlet
Millions of people who might otherwise be dead would be thankful. Sad to say, but a million or so in Iraq when the UN found no WMD would have been as thankful in 2002. But now they are dead.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:33 AM
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8. well, DUH! . . . they made it all up about Iraq, and got us into an endless war . . .
ever see "The Longest Yard," that Burt Reynolds movie about the football game between guards and prisoners? . . . after the quarterback (Reynolds) rares back and rifles a pass into the groin of the guards' biggest gorilla, he goes back to the huddle and says something like "If it worked once, it should work again" . . . and sure enough . . .

that's the BushCo mindset . . . and by BushCo I mean the current administration, the military-industrial complex, and the corporate media, all rolled into one . . .

"If it worked once, it should work again" . . . and it probably will . . .
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:41 PM
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23. Nice Analogy
Mr. Blue Sky. That is this treasonous White House to a TEE.

Keith is a national treasure and we should all do as much as possible to make sure Keith is heard by Joe Sixpack MSM consuming willfully ignorant.

Plus he's got a great sense of humor and is kind of a professional historian of comedy.He did a homage to Bob and Ray, for one. For another, he promotes the Arrested Development movie, for another he thanks his High School Teachers when they do something worthwhile, like retiring. And he calls out reptiles like Dick Cheney PERSONALLY!

I have to walk a line between political and "normal". I'm afraid of losing friendships if I question their paradigms with truth and facts. Also been told not to talk politics at work.

-90% Jimmy
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:59 AM
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10. K&R
Well, duh! Won't stop them from beating the war drums though.:eyes:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:54 AM
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13. Knew that. I expect lies from this administration.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:58 AM
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14. We need more voices like his.
We can't afford to be lied into another war of choice.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:31 AM
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15. Hell, I even knew those explosives were not from Iran.
Being and Aviation Ordnanceman in the USMC while in Iraq, I have seen every type of explosive or ammunition both for ground forces and aviation. I worked at one of the main ammunition supply points for the province I was located in. From this expierience and from looking at the so called mortar rounds from Iran that were in the press, I knew it was all BS. Because the identification markings look like they were freshly painted; none of it was in cyrillic, farsi, or arabic; plus guerilla forces tend to handle ammunition a little more carelessly and have a tendency to bury them into the ground, so there should at least be some wear and tear. In conclusion, IT'S ALL FAKE!!!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:10 AM
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17. How can these killer-politicians, corporations, and mil brass be so stupid?
We had the fake Niger lettere coming out of U.S. players played out with the help of Italy.

Fake letters
Fake turkey
Fake banners and uniforms
Fake audiences
Fake captures of Hussein
Fake heroes and heroines
Fake executioneers
Fake elections
Fake nation not-building
Fake aircraft
Fake movies
Fake reasons for everything
Fake bombs

Just how long is the list?

How many years have we been saying this -
They think we are STUPID -
....and some of us are for believing these lying criminals. They are FAKING criminals.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:59 PM
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20. They are not 'stupid'. They are complicit
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:56 AM
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16. Simply, D'oh!
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:31 PM
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18. Well, they might "not" be making it up
since this is Iran they are talking about and they "are" known to be hostile to the US however given the Bush administrations past claims of WMDs in Iraq I dont blame anyone who questions and doubts this administration when it comes to new claims about Iran.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:00 PM
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21. And we aren't hostile to Iran?
We armed Saddam to fight Iran. That war killed hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

When have they attacked us? IMHO, that is the only reason to go to war.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:54 PM
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24. Well, when they invaded our embassy since
an embassy is considered foreign territory not to mention the whole taking american citizens as hostages and threatening their lives was also not a nice thing for them to do.
And btw I never said we were angels towards them just that they are hostile towards us, thats a fact simple as that.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:48 PM
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30. Read "All The Shah's Men" by Stephen Kinzer.
The reason they took those hostages in 1979 was because the Shah sought asylum in the US and they saw that move by the Shah as a signal that the US was planning on attacking Iran - again.

The same Shah imposed on them in 1953. The same Shah who ruled them with an iron fist supported by the US.

The same Shah installed into power by the US/UK after a US supported coup that overthrew a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED President - Whose "crime" was that he believed the oil under the ground in his country belonged to the people of his country NOT British Petroleum Corporation.

The same Shah that ruled Iran with such brutality that ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM became a refuge for the downtrodden masses.

YOU DO THE MATH.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:29 AM
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31. And did it?
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:30 AM by cstanleytech
The oil belong to the British Petroleum Corp I mean as in did they legally purchase the rights to it according to the laws within that country at the time?
As for doing the math, does your math include the treatment of women and gays in their country as well because mine does.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:14 PM
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33. They may have. It was also "legal" for the oil to be "Nationalized"
You're missing the point.

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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:07 PM
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34. No, i get it.
The US has screwed up over there I know that but even if it had not would you trust the government of Iran?
I wouldn't.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:19 PM
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22. uh, yeah
Geez, why would Iran be "hostile" to the US? Maybe because they don't want to be the next oil colony, after being bombed back to the stone age? No mystery there.

I trust the arms experts KO cited much more than this "935 Lies" criminal enterprise trying to execute the next step in the PNAC agenda (you ARE familiar with PNAC, the plan underlying all of the maladministration's actions in the Middle East?).

Now if the propagandeers had said Saudi Arabia instead of Iran (responsible for arming anti-US militants), then they'd have some credibility. Google the LA Times article from a while back which reported that Saudi Arabia is by far the largest outside supplier of $$ and arms to anti-US forces in Iraq, providing (IIRC) almost half the support. Iran was way, way down the list, like a few percent or less. So, why isn't Bushco gunning for Saudi Arabia? Oh, nevermind--Bush isn't finished kissing SA princes.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:00 PM
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26. Yup I am well aware that the government ignores the actions
of the saudis but that has happened for decades and as much as it sucks it even happened under clinton alot and I liked clinton, voted for him twice and would have done for a 3rd time if I could.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:57 PM
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25. I would be hostile to any burglar who would kill my family to rob me.
History is not taught well in the king of kings' "homeland" :cry:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Iran_KH.html
~snip~
The original initiative to oust Mossadegh had come from the British, for the elderly Iranian leader had spearheaded the parliamentary movement to nationalize the British owned Anglo-lranian Oil Company (AIOC), the sole oil company operating in Iran. In March 1951, the bill for nationalization was passed, and at the end of April Mossadegh was elected prime minister by a large majority of Parliament. On 1 May, nationalization went into effect. The Iranian people, Mossadegh declared, "were opening a hidden treasure upon which lies a dragon".

As the prime minister had anticipated, the British did not take the nationalization gracefully, though it was supported unanimously by the Iranian parliament and by the overwhelming majority of the Iranian people for reasons of both economic justice and national pride. The Mossadegh government tried to do all the right things to placate the British: It offered to set aside 25 percent of the net profits of the oil operation as compensation; it guaranteed the safety and the jobs of the British employees; it was willing to sell its oil without disturbance to the tidy control system so dear to the hearts of the international oil giants. But the British would have none of it. What they wanted was their oil company back. And they wanted Mossadegh's head. A servant does not affront his lord with impunity.
~ ~
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:04 PM
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27. Yeah but you need to look at it all
including the fact that they are pretty much run by those we would consider on the far right here in this country which btw on a side note is a prime example of why we need to win this election regardless if its obama or clinton as we do not need more alitos on the supreme court.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:27 PM
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19. Keep in mind....

Iran, like Iraq, controls a shitload of oil. Our only real purpose for invading would be to overthrow the government and force them to deal with the US.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:44 PM
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29. Yeah, cause that's worked so well with Iraq
n/t
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:12 PM
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35. This Administration could care less about the American people...

or how we are doing with the War. Republicans are certainly concerned about the future of their party, but I don't even think Bush, Cheney and Rice have the future of their Party at the top of their priority list. The bottom line is that oil companies are making record profits and the Saudis are maintaining (or increasing) their cash flow.

Big Oil now realizes that it does not have a long-term future, so now is their chance to make a cash grab, and of course the military complex benefits as well.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:08 PM
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28. LA Times....Not one Iranian weapon found
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/05/iraq-the-elusiv.html

In the comments, check out the 6th one.
From a contractor in Iraq working on explosive ordnance disposal.
He's seen French, Chinese, Czech, Russian and other foreign made weapons, but has never seen one from Iran.

The liars in Washington realized after the 2007 NIE and the February 2008 IAEA report, the nuclear excuse is dead, so now they're trying this one.
But as KO said "They're LYING!" again.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:49 AM
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32. great job getting this link we all need to share it
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