Nader? WTF?

[Dammit Ann]

Run time: 10:57 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWRAJrRV6XI   Posted on YouTube: May 24, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 25, 2008 By DU Member: Dammit Ann Views on DU: 2243

 
This is very strange? Or is it just me?

[SaveOurSovereignty]

1. i love it

regardless if this is an election ploy of his i gotta respect him for just getting out there and laying it out on the table, mr.kucinich did on the house floor a short while ago but then retracted.

[arewenotdemo]

2. Fuck Nader. Without him there would be no Cheerleader in the White House.

He's the lowest type of scum.

[iamthebandfanman]

4. whatever, it couldnt have been the massive voter/election fraud. n/t

[pedo]

3. Obama/Nader 08!

just kidding. that would be awesome though.

[frog92969]

5. If he were a Dem I'd say Nader for VP.

Obama should find him a position, Ralph is a good man.

[Syrinx]

6. he might be good to head the federal trade commission

:shrug:

[frog92969]

9. That's a good one for him, anything but press secretary.

:rofl:

[mzmolly]

27. I like that idea.

:hi:

[Syrinx]

30. thanks!

It's nice when someone likes my idea. :D

[mzmolly]

35. "It's nice to be nice to the nice."

;)

[harmonicon]

7. should be AG (nt)

[Syrinx]

8. I want John Edwards in that position

That would be awesome. Let Nader run the FTC.

[creeksneakers2]

10. Why impeach?

When Bush is no different from Al Gore?

[Butch350]

11. 10. Why impeach?

Well then, just for you, let's impeach Gore too!

[DaveJ]

12. Duuh?

As if he's the only enlightened person on the planet??? Problem is, he's right, but he's not enlightened. Certainly doesn't deserve a single vote.

For someone heading up a party that supposedly watches over corporations, he's not especially explicit in this video about the problem with corporations. Corporations themselves aren't the problem, it's the lack of regulation. Today, even THEY are asking for better regulation of themselves! Corporations themselves are not the problem, so I'd love having a 'corporate' president if that means Obama wants to regulate them properly and in the best interest of our people.

What did he ever do, help out with creating the seatbelt requirement? That's fine, but ever since he's been running for President because he's so arrogant to think he's the only one who came up with the idea of seat belts.

Pretty pathetic, IMHO.

[jwlashta]

14. Your breadth of knowledge on the man is astounding

Not.

Throughout Nader's prior presidential bids, he has espoused the problems with corporations.

It is idiotic to claim the man is arrogant because he spearheaded the necessity of seat belts. The man has been a proponent of universal health care, for example, for many years. He even spoke in Canada (I can't remember where and when) on the values of universal health care and why Canada should do everything it could/can to protect health care from privatization--health care costs are cheaper when health care is not privatized... something Americans have come to understand in recent years (what with people making trips north to purchase prescription drugs).

Stop sucking on those sour grapes--Nader is a wise man who offers an honest, uncompromised voice to the political debate.

[DaveJ]

18. I thought you were going to come up with a bit more...

As was the case with seatbelts, I'm sure, the majority of Americans would like to see some sort of Universal healthcare. He's not bringing anything new to the table with that. In fact, like Nader, I've even spoken face to face with a few Canadians about it. LOL. I'm sure the people I talked to were regular folk, and not the lofty people Nader rubs elbows with.

But, as I said, that was just my humble opinion (did you notice, IMHO). People can do whatever they want, obviously. I've just been irritated with people like him lately, think they are sort of ridiculous, those who have delusions of grandeur and then ultimately end up stealing momentum from others.

[jwlashta]

31. Delusions of grandeur...

The same could be said about anyone running for the office of President of the United States.

The point about health care is to provide an example of an agenda he has been pushing for about 15 years that I know of... I'm sure it's been longer, though. I'm not saying that he was the first to push the agenda in the US, but it seems to be a current hot topic and I would suggest that he was a bit of a trend-setter, if you will.

Also, his anti-corporate slant has him opposed to special interests' sway with political figures.

Once again, sour grapes. I hate the fact that Gore lost, but I blame several factors for the loss, and none of which is Nader.

[iamthebandfanman]

28. the only problem i have with nader

is the method in which hes trying to get liberal ideals out there...

im for trying to working within the democratic party(for now atleast) to get a means to push those same ideals...i wish he was still doing the same.

how anybody can blame him after the horrible election fraud is beyond me.

[jwlashta]

32. When Nader ran in 2000

He ran (at least partly) on the basis that he felt that there wasn't much difference between the other two candidates (Gore and Bush)... I'm sure now he would have to disagree with that assessment. However, I have a feeling that he still feels an inherent corruption in both parties what with the influence of special interests and all.

I am a little annoyed that he is running again, though. He did it at first to send a message; enough people voted for him that the message should have been loud and clear. I also didn't watch all of the press conference posted here, but another annoyance is that he seems to suggest that he is running against Bush and co.?

I totally agree with you that the man cannot be blamed for Gore's loss when the election fraud essentially cost Gore Florida (and thus the presidency).

[RBInMaine]

13. Much of what he says is right, BUT running for Prez CONSTANTLY is NOT the way! He won't win. Can't

win. Hasn't won. Won't happen. We don't need to lose a single progressive vote to someone who simply can not win. And while Bush/Cheney are abhorrent, the votes in congress do not exist for impeachment. He's a lame duck, and what we need Bush to do is keep being awful because the worse he is, the more he destroys the R's and McBUSH in November. Better for Ralph to push his agenda in other contexts, NOT as a continual Presidential candidate who has no hope in hell of winning and which makes him look rather foolish and diminishes the force of his anti-Bush message.

[YourUniqueDemocrat]

15. Barbara Ehrenreich was for Nader

The columnist for Obama that we all love, from The Nation.

She saw no difference between Bush and Gore, or as she liked to call him, "Bore".

Now we're in Iraq and Gore is a Nobel Laureate; and Bush is the worst ever.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh032408.shtml

[stlsaxman]

16. YAAAAYYY!! Ralph's back!!! 'Bout time, buddy! We sure missed ya!

You're right where we need ya, Ralphie-boy! Doing your best to tear apart the Democratic Party!!!! Where you been hiding, dude???? Welcome back!!!


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this sarcasm is dripping the blood of a million Iraqis and 4000+ dead American soldiers that can to some extent be attributable to the Nader2000 campaign.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

25. "Maybe if you had campaigned more for Kerry in '04...

some of that bloodshed wouldn't be attributable to you, either." :shrug:

I think both of these statements are dumb.

[stlsaxman]

29. Why don't you do me a favor... GO FUCK YOURSELF.

do you know me? huh? what the fuck gives you the right to say that to me?

you have a record of what i did in '04 for the Kerry campaign in my area?

i didn't think so.

again- go fuck yourself.

oh and yeah- i plan to do lots more for the Obama campaign than i did for the Kerry campaign- which was a WHOLE FUCKIN' LOT- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

33. Ouch! Hit a sore spot?

My point, if you wouldn't be so quick to take offense, is that one has little to do with the outcome of the other. Don't penalize Nader for having the Dems lose; if you have to, penalize the SYSTEM for making it that way.

I campaigned for Kerry in '04, too, and plan to do even more for Obama in '08. Glad we're on the same team.

[stlsaxman]

34. i see none of the "point" you say you make in post #33 in-

"Maybe if you had campaigned more for Kerry in '04...

some of that bloodshed wouldn't be attributable to you, either."

none of the bloodshed caused by this administration is attributable to inaction on my part as you suggest.

i stand by my reaction.

and i can blame Nader all i want to.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

36. Blame should be squarely on those who got us into this war

I think you know this as well as I do... having all the little people bicker among themselves and blaming each other (like you're doing with Nader) kind've distracts you from that point, huh?

[stlsaxman]

37. yes you and i are engaged in petty bickering but regardless of that...

you have no right to accuse me of not doing enough.

let's stop distracting each other, then. please?!?!

(you have my permission to leave me alone).

[Ytzak]

17. Nader/Cheny 08

That way we can have two Darth Vaders on the ticket.

[Phred42]

19. If Nader really beleived in this he'd work to build a movement BETWEEN Presidential runs

Rather than simply pop-up every 4 years to screw things up

[patrick t. cakes]

20. ugh..

sad to say i voted for nader in 2000.
would never make that mistake again.
sorry al.

he stumbles out sentences almost as bad as bush.

[D23MIURG23]

22. Praise Bob!

:hi:

[patrick t. cakes]

23. slack

:P

[D23MIURG23]

21. This is what it looks like when your ego turns you into a robot.

Its sad really.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

24. GOOD!!!

I appreciate Nader's tenacity. We need more like him. Why ya'll have a problem with 3rd party candidates?

[Enrique]

26. will he call for McCain's impeachment too?

supposing Nader's candidacy helps McCain into the White House?

[Echo In Light]

38. Thumb's up

Bump for Nader!