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Mon May-26-08 12:48 PM
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.How the news media fails us |
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Mon May-26-08 01:05 PM
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1. I can't recommend this highly enough! |
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Excellent, EXCELLENT talk - and so educational/informative. He puts it all together for me. I was aware that "they" controlled the media, and was unaware of the specifics. Now I get it.
I also was totally clueless regarding Reagan and the Fairness Doctrine. I'm off to google to learn some more.
Thanks for posting such an important video!
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Mon May-26-08 01:12 PM
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Mon May-26-08 01:14 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly that campaign finance and media deregulation are two of the major factors in the decline of the US. I hope that we can focus on these two issues after the election and make some real and significant change.
I also like the fact that he went after Alan Colmes. I think that he is almost worse than Hannity in that he gives the Right WingNuts some sort of twisted claim to the show being "unbiased". The guy is a tool, pure and simple, sets himself up to lose every week and makes us look stupid. He represents the (even more) insidious side of the propaganda that our news has become.
Somewhere in his own corner of hell, Göbbels is amazed at the Propaganda machine the US has created. He mastered it, the US media PERFECTED it.
War is Peace.
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Mon May-26-08 02:04 PM
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Heartening that someone with voice still carries the torch of truth on this. It's time for a real revolution! :grr:
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Mon May-26-08 02:40 PM
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Mon May-26-08 02:49 PM
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Mon May-26-08 04:14 PM
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Awesome clip, awesome man.
I learned some stuff here. Nothing the * cabal does surprises me any more.
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Mon May-26-08 04:23 PM
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8. Come On Robert talk about the 1996 telecommunications act |
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Mon May-26-08 06:08 PM
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13. Exactly! Glad someone pays attention |
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Mon May-26-08 09:41 PM
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25. Well you tell us about it then! n/t |
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Tue May-27-08 12:21 AM
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30. here's a great Salon article for you doc |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 12:21 AM by democracy1st
The Telecommunications Reform Act handed over control of the radio airwaves to a chosen few. Will TV be next? http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/06/28/telecom_dereg/index.html
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Tue May-27-08 10:31 AM
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45. So it took 4 pages to get around to blaming a |
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bill supported by both Bill Clinton and Al Gore on Hillary Rodham Clinton. I figured that was where it was going. Bill Clinton was the best Republican President we ever had, look at NAFTA and the WTO. One thing though how is it Al Gore seems to get a free pass on this stuff and he is still the hero of the left. I remember when Bill Clinton and Al Gore were in this area back in 1992 and Al Gore said WTI (a hazardous waste incenarator) would never be opened in their Administration. They said they was going to put protections in NAFTA to protect the environment and jobs, that never happened. They said they would stop illegal dumping of steel in the US, then totally abandoned the industry. The steel industry would not exist today if GWB of all people didn't enforce the trade laws. But yet everything is blamed on Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton and Al Gore gets a free pass? One remark I hear from any Republican around here is that it was Bill Clinton that gave you NAFTA, how do you answer to that one?
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Tue May-27-08 02:18 PM
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58. I'm thinking people are forgiving on the left,look at Edwards and I can understand it |
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Mon May-26-08 04:59 PM
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9. Ah! Thank you Saint Elsewhere!! |
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Mon May-26-08 06:42 PM
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16. welcome.....anything for you , cupcake |
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Mon May-26-08 05:11 PM
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10. That Is Priceless, Unique, And Historic, WOW! |
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I love it! And I passed it around too! Thanks for posting!
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Mon May-26-08 05:19 PM
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11. KR ...And god said "let there be intelligence to counter the evil of the GOP" |
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RFK....One of our last, best hopes.
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Mon May-26-08 07:29 PM
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Mon May-26-08 05:31 PM
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12. K & R! Thank you for this! |
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I could listen to RFK Jr. all day!
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Mon May-26-08 06:11 PM
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14. It Wasn't Always Like This |
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This is, in many ways, the most fundamental issue we face. I know that sounds overblown, but consider: If the media is not doing it's job, then there's no foundation for addressing all the other issues we face. To paraphrase the old cliche, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion but we all need facts on which to base our judgments. This video is something that everyone ought to see.
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Mon May-26-08 06:32 PM
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15. I lost count of how many times he hit the nail on the head |
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this speech must have been from May 2004 given the citing of the "Mission Accomplished" speech a year earlier
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Mon May-26-08 06:43 PM
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17. Thank God someone is talking about the way that the press is failing this country! |
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Mon May-26-08 06:50 PM
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18. Thanks for posting this, awesome video. |
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Mon May-26-08 07:01 PM
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19. Good enough reason to vote dem in nov. Period. |
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Mon May-26-08 07:32 PM
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21. This talk was given four years ago, imagine how much worse everything RFK Jr. exposed then has |
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Mon May-26-08 07:36 PM
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Mon May-26-08 07:38 PM
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23. RFK Jr. for AG in '09 |
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Make Robert Kennedy Jr. the Attorney General in the new Obama Administration.
Tell me that wouldn't take your breath away!
I really, really want prople to start proposing this as if it were entirely possible.
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Tue May-27-08 07:45 AM
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37. Robert Kennedy supports Clinton |
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I doubt that Obama is that magnanimous. Robert Jr. is his father s's son alright. I closed my eyes and I heard the words and knew it would be what Bobby would have said.
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Tue May-27-08 12:33 PM
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53. Why is RFK, Jr. supporting a DLC-corporate candidate . . . ??? Confusing!!! |
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Especially one whose husband helped knock over control of media ownership?
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Tue May-27-08 08:53 AM
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RFK Jr would certainly fight for us.
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Tue May-27-08 12:34 PM
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54. That sounds great...but do you think he'd be willing to leave his environmental work? |
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Mon May-26-08 08:09 PM
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24. Thank you, ElsewheresDaughter. Everyone in this country needs to hear this speech |
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Edited on Mon May-26-08 08:10 PM by Seabiscuit
several times over.
Imagine what RFK, Jr. would have to say about the "reporting" of our own Democratic primary season.
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Mon May-26-08 09:49 PM
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26. So, it's the media's fault that Americans are too lazy |
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to do any critical research or reading and educate themselves about what's going on in their country?
Ummm, I don't think so.
WE, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ARE THE PROBLEM. The media are in it for the money and most of us are too dense or distracted or worried about football or video games or our jobs to recognize this and go elsewhere for information.
Friends, there are a few million of us out here who figured out a long time ago that we were being spoon-fed the corporate agenda via TEEVEE and TALK RADIO. Some of us also saw that our newspapers were generally getting less and less apt to dig deep and find out what's really going on. We are the ones who go to libraries and bookstores and presentations by authors and people who have cred, and politicians we admire so we can get the truth. The whole story is out there NOW, but you have to get it yourself. You won't get it on TEEVEE.
I admit that what Robert Kennedy Jr said has SOME merit, but let's face it, if you are too stupid to see that the MSM isn't giving you the full story then I question whether you really ought to be voting.
Case in point: a dear friend of mine is a pretty smart woman who has a high-school education. She's a hardworking, resourceful person who has raised a family and who is a liberal when it comes to politics--or at least she thinks she is. Over the years I have tried to engage her in various discussions about world events and American political issues. Without fail she really has no idea about any of those things except exactly what she hears from the TEEVEE. Now, she's all pissed because Hillary is winning the popular vote and being treated unfairly by Obama who is trying to push her out of the race. Pullease!!! I cannot talk to her about this and she will not go to any info source except MSNBC and occasionally Fox Propaganda Net. I have urged her to go to the internets and learn more about the race and why Hillary is full of shit, but she refuses. She doesn't even know what Hillary has voted for or against during her Senate career but she is positive that she will be a fantastic president.
This woman reads only fantasy novels. She doesn't even subscribe to a newspaper or pick up any of the free liberal rags that are around our area.
Somehow I cannot blame the media for her ignorance and lack of curiosity.
And what's really sad is that she is at least taking a bit of interest in this election; whereas, before she has never been interested.
A system of government like our own cannot survive without citizens who are active in the political process and who are educated about what's going on around them.
I'm just hoping that Barack can get enough people interested in politics so they WILL become politically educated.
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Tue May-27-08 07:56 AM
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39. I know exactly what you mean |
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Support who you want, I say, but do it with some fact and reason. If you oppose that which your candidate supports, be ready to explain both positions. I oppose the Patriot Act. Obama and Clinton support it with votes. I oppse the Energy Bill, Obama supported it.Voted yes, sir Mr Cheney, sir, just one more thing we agree about, sir! I am against the use of cluster bombs, Clinton voted to continue them. I opposed the continued funding of the war, both of them voted to fund smorgasbord style. I oppose government interference in our family medical decisions, Obama voted with Frist and Co about Terry Shaivo and he made his mind up by watching that video made by the lunatic priest. He says he regrets that vote now, and I don't blame him. He should regret it. He does not regret his Patriot Act support or his Energy Bill support or his rejection of the Uniting American Families Act- another anti-gay vote. Bet you never heard of that bill. In regards to voting records, the two candidates are almost identical, and a strong case can be made for either or against either. Patriot Act yes vote. Explian that away. A 'progressive' voting for the USA Patriot Act? Think that over a bit. Even Hillary had the good sense to reject the Energy Bill out of hand. Obama voted yes. Obama voted to certify Ohio, and thus to certify Cheney. Of course. Did you also agree with that vote? How did Clinton vote on that? I don't know. I know the candidates that earned my support with the work they did and not the words they bought voted no.
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Tue May-27-08 09:55 AM
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Our responsibility to know the real story. But I am a 9/11 truther and look how far it has gotten us. I can scream it was an inside job at the top of my lungs but where will that get me? So it is the medias responsibility to get the facts. Finding facts on the internets doesn't always make the 5:00 news. I talk about how we are in a dictatorship and people don't believe me. I mean what is it called when a sitting president gets to interput his own laws? The media doesn't even talk about being under a dictatorship. They didn't even care about the stolen election of 2000. Oh well what can we do now? Faux already announced the winner.
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Tue May-27-08 12:36 PM
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55. The founders expected a free press to inform the public ... probably naively--!!! |
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In fact, few of us have time to do the research --- therefore, "news" can easily be used to propagandize the public, misinform the public and misdirect the public.
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Mon May-26-08 10:21 PM
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27. The Clinton legacy: media monopolies. |
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Mon May-26-08 10:44 PM
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28. RFK, Jr. said more in 10 minutes than I bet anyone heard on corp-media this whole year --!!! |
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Great guy --- great environmentalist --- and I wish he was headed to the White House ---
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Mon May-26-08 10:44 PM
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29. How about RFK, Jr. for VP with Obama --- ???? |
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Tue May-27-08 01:03 AM
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31. RFK Jr. Would be great for VP...but... |
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Obama/Kennedy would go down as one of the best tickets in history. Heres the but; Do you really think the corporate media would allow this ticket to succeed. Especially if Kennedy ran around on his newly found soap box screaming about media reform?
EDIT: Grammar
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Tue May-27-08 06:22 AM
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34. You saw what the did to Edwards... |
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Tue May-27-08 12:29 PM
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51. Yeah...and it was an OPEN and bare knuckles threat by the corporations . . .in writing!!! |
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and look at how little reaction there was to that weren't because DUers at that time weren't concerned then very much about what was happening to the more liberal/progressive candidates -- Kucinich/Edwards. It also suited their purposes that these people disappear!
But it was shocking --- and should be well noted!!!
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Tue May-27-08 12:27 PM
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50. I understand what you mean and when we all understand that reality maybe we can stop it--??? !! |
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It's a hit ticket, tho . . . Wow!
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Tue May-27-08 06:08 AM
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32. That would have been the ticket in 2016. |
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I have no doubt about it.
Had we only used a little bit of long term planning in the choosing of this years ticket....
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Tue May-27-08 06:22 AM
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Tue May-27-08 06:24 AM
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Thanks for posting.
peace~
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Tue May-27-08 07:48 AM
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38. How Can America Be Admired, Respected, And Listened To Again? |
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Get Great Women And Men With This Kind Of Intelligence For Leaders (In The People's House, ASAP).
The World Will Thank You Like You've Never Seen Before.
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Tue May-27-08 08:38 AM
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He's always a fantastic speaker with a wealth of information.
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Tue May-27-08 08:39 AM
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41. unbelieveable shit is happening to us. |
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Thank god for people like Bobby Kennedy for telling us.
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Tue May-27-08 10:30 AM
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44. Hey, look. A thread with actual relevant content and substance voted to the front page. |
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Not just "x candidate is awful" or "x candidate is awesome."
Good for you!
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Tue May-27-08 10:32 AM
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46. His voice sounds better than in years! Good Luck & Be Well Robert! |
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Tue May-27-08 10:53 AM
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47. Did you see the part where the guy in camouflage |
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was actually in the newsroom??? That says it all. The major new media is total propaganda and nothing else.
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Tue May-27-08 11:22 AM
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RFK Jr., a true adult in politics in a world filled with mental midgets.
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Tue May-27-08 11:37 AM
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49. I just watched the first portion. |
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I can't wait to go home and listen to the rest of the speech. Thanks for posting.
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Tue May-27-08 12:51 PM
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56. I don't agree with ElswheresDaughter on much these days, |
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but this is an amazing video!!!
K and well its too to R!
:kick: :applause:
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Tue May-27-08 12:54 PM
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57. Wow. 80% of investigative journalists have lost their jobs. |
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Scary. No wonder CNN is barely watchable.
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