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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:52 PM
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Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law
 
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Military Commission Act - WAS NOT LAWFULLY PASSED - Pocket Veto Nullified It

President’s Inaction May Equal Pocket Veto
By brad
UPDATE: H.R. 6166: Military Commissions Act of 2006
Military Commission Act Not Lawfully Passed

President’s Inaction Equals ‘Pocket Veto’
by Pat Shannan

“The Military Commission Act is not law!” the man barked. “The ‘pocket veto’ clause of the constitution has already nullified it.”


Here is what the law says and what happens when a sitting president sticks a bill passed by congress into his pocket instead of signing it and sending it back:

-A Pocket Veto occurs when the President fails to sign a bill within the 10 days allowed by the Constitution.

-Congress must be in adjournment in order for a pocket veto to take effect.

-If Congress is in session and the president fails to sign the bill, it becomes law without his signature.

Now to the current specifics.

From the U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 7: “…If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevents its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.”

Since Congress cannot vote while in adjournment, a pocket veto cannot be overridden. A pocket veto is a legislative maneuver in American federal lawmaking. The U.S. Constitution requires the President to sign or veto any legislation placed on his desk within ten days (not including Sundays). If he does not, then it becomes law by default. The one exception to this rule is if Congress adjourns before the ten days are up. In such a case, the bill does not become law; it is effectively, if not actually, vetoed. Ignoring legislation, or “putting a bill in one’s pocket” until Congress adjourns is thus called a pocket veto.

Congress passed 6166 on September 29th, presented it to the President on October 10th, and adjourned on October 13th. Bush signed it on October 17th, the week after Congress had adjourned, thereby rendering it “vetoed” by constitutional standards.

much more at:
http://electbarnhill.com/2006/10/24/presidents-inaction-may-equal-pocket-veto

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2542818&mesg_id=2542818
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:50 PM
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1. I know how a bill becomes a law:
First, executives from the oil industry/insurance industry/manufacturers lobby/Christian coalition/pharmaceutical industry/ or the military industrial complex call up Dick Cheney and tell him they've scheduled a meeting in his office at such-and-such a time. They tell him to make sure James Baker is there with Bill Kristol, Tom DeLay, Strom Thurmond's corpse, and Rush Limbaugh.
When the industry executives meet with Cheney's club in the Oval Office, they hand him the text of the bill they want him to pass. They give copies to DeLay and Corpse-Thurmond and direct both of them to introduce bills the following morning. Limbaugh and Kristol are in charge of media hype.
The right wing legislature then passes the bill sending it to the Vice President's desk. There, George Bush comes in from clearing the brush in the White House yard, to sign important President stuff, including big business' bill.
After Bush leaves the office, Cheney then signs the bill, making it officially a law!
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:23 PM
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2. Excellent summary!!! But you forgot the part where they discuss what Board of
Director's million-dollar posts they are all going to assume once they have voted for all of the corporatocracy bills after they leave "public service".
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:55 AM
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3. When I saw that cartoon as a kid I used to feel sorry for ol Bill
but not in this political climate. I hope you never get to be a law, you lil fucker. You're probably terrible.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 10:37 AM
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4. LOL!
:rofl:
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