TYT: Cenk's Thoughts On K-Mart Selling Abstinence Clothes

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 02:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4R0zQLI-mA   Posted on YouTube: June 03, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: June 05, 2008 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 1095

 
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[CherylK]

1. Who could have guessed it would be Kmart selling this??

Just kidding, of course it is Kmart!

So funny :)

[Goat or Panic]

2. I AM SOOOO TOTALLY

GETTING THESE!!111!!!!!!

[Wise Child]

3. I'm sure

that's a youth group cottage industry. I believe they originally sold abstinence rings.

Looks like campy Urban Outfitters irony wear.
(Could happen in ten or twenty years)

[OhioChick]

4. Cenk is hysterical....

"You can have sex with someone and NOT LOVE THEM AT ALL!" :rofl:

[Sam Ervin jret]

5. Chastity belts for sale in aisle four. Right next to the glow in the dark firearms.

God Bless America

[mckara]

6. I Don't See Anything Wrong with Promoting Abstinence...

Before marriage, or finding ways to bring prayers into public schools, constitutionally.
As Democrats, we should respect the values of our fellow citizens. We would win more elections if voters believed we were not trying to outlaw traditional beliefs that many people equate with morality.
:patriot:

[ihavenobias]

7. Promoting abstinence *in the context of a comprehensive sex education program*, yes

Saying that abstinence is the ONLY way and that people must NOT be taught about or have access to birth control, no.

I can consider respecting beliefs until they interfere with the lives of others, and we've spent millions if not billions on ineffective (as determined by peer reviewed, journal published research) "abstinence only" education. Who knows how much diseases and unintended pregnancy (and unprepared parents and so many other negative consequences) has resulted from this fundamentalist approach.

We've also had our lawmakers put conditions on aid to foreign countries with high rates of AIDS and unintended pregnancies, and some of those conditions are that we push "abstinence only". Sorry, but I can't respect that, not one bit.

[OhioChick]

8. What?

All of the "promoting abstinence" programs were proven ineffective, so many states abandoned them.

Abstinence-Only Programs Under Fire
May 7, 2008

Chicago—Over the past decade, the US federal government has heavily promoted programs that advocate sexual abstinence as the key strategy for dealing with adolescent sexuality, but studies are demonstrating that the approach has little impact on teen sexual behavior or in preventing pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). As a result, health professionals and government officials are working to end the programs and to expand funding for other types of sexual education initiatives, and many states have refused federal funding for abstinence-only programs.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/299/17/2013

You speak of bringing prayer into public schools, yet your next sentence states that "we should respect the values of our fellow citizens."

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What if your "fellow citizens" are not religious or of another religion other than yours?

Ever hear of "Separation of Church and State?"

Here is a refresher:

The separation of church and state is a legal and political principle derived from the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." The phrase "separation of church and state", which does not appear in the Constitution itself, is generally traced to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. It has since been quoted in several opinions handed down by the United States Supreme Court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States

BTW....I'm Catholic and believe in the Separation of Church and State. No one should have to follow/practice/pray according to my religious beliefs (or that of others) in a public school.

Look what has happened to our Country over the past 8 years when "Church and State" became entangled.

[raystorm7]

9. I would so love to obliterate your argument right now but am too damn tired to put in the effort =/

[ihavenobias]

10. That was already taken care of

;)

[CherylK]

11. Bump!

[SemperEadem]

12. how... mediocre

abstinence pants with "true love waits" plastered over her ass or in front of her kitty...

I guess this is the best they could come up with.